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Let’s Talk About Victor Salva…

Victor Salva

On February 29, 2016 Scream Factory, the horror genre subsidiary of Shout! Factory, announced that they would be releasing Jeepers Creepers and Jeepers Creepers 2 on special edition Blu-rays on June 14, 2016. With this announcement came an understandable amount of backlash for two reasons. First, the films are already on Blu-ray (the first one as a solo release with minimal extras and the second one as a double feature release with the first film and no extras). Second, Victor Salva, the director of both films, is a convicted child molester. There has been a pretty significant debate online regarding the release of the films (and it’s not like it’s the first time a similar debate has started over the director and his films), so I wanted to just weigh in on the subject and open it up to discussion among all of you. As horror fans, do you think Shout! Factory is making a mistake by releasing the films on Blu-ray? Should all of Salva’s films be discontinued?

This seems like a pretty cut-and-dried case. Salva is a perverted monster who deserves every bit of vitriol thrown at him. Just look at the header image on this post. That is his mugshot and the man is smiling. That being said, many feel that by releasing these Blu-rays, Shout! Factory is showing support for his actions. That is where the situation gets a little polarizing. Here’s a brief summary of his crimes according to Wikipedia:

In 1988, Salva was convicted of sexual misconduct with the then 12-year-old Nathan Winters, one of Clownhouses underage stars including videotaping one of the encounters. Commercial videotapes and magazines containing child pornography were also found at his home. Salva pleaded guilty to lewd and lascivious conduct, oral sex with a person under 14, and procuring a child for pornography. He was sentenced to three years in state prison, of which he served 15 months. He completed his parole in 1992

To give a little bit more backstory on the subject, Salva’s biological father abandoned him and his mother when he was still a baby, and the stepfather he had growing up was an alcoholic that also abused him. His mother and stepfather disowned him when he came out as gay at the age of 18 in 1976. I mention this not because it excuses his crimes (and they are just that: inexcusable), but just to provide a bit more context into Salva’s life.

I’ll make a bold move and voice my opinion on the matter. I don’t think Salva’s films should be discontinued and I have no problem with Shout! Factory releasing those films on Blu-Ray (nor do I have a problem with the impending Jeepers Creepers 3), or any of his other films for that matter (save for Clownhouse, which should probably never be released again).  I don’t believe that Salva spent a long enough time in prison. He should  still be in there today. Unfortunately, that is not what our justice system decided and I (along with everyone else) have to accept that fact.

I’m not aware if Salva gets royalty checks for all of his films (he wrote all but one of his films, after all), but maybe film studios could start putting clauses in their contracts stating that royalties will be forfeited if criminal charges are made at any point after the film’s release. I should point out that my knowledge about the business side of Hollywood is rather limited so these suggestions may be fantastical. Still, it may not be a bad idea. If that happened, then maybe the idea of a home video company re-releasing his films won’t spark as much controversy (if the issue truly is that people don’t want more money going to the man), but I digress.

The fact that Salva is a free man and still getting work in Hollywood bothers a lot of people. This is completely understandable, but there are some issues I have with this. What sort of irks me about some of the people who do protest his films or raise a stink about Shout! Factory releasing Jeepers Creepers and Jeepers Creepers 2 on Blu-ray is that that same stink wasn’t made when Rosewood Lane or Dark House were released in 2011 and 2014, respectively. Sure, neither one of those films saw a theatrical release, and neither one was actually a good film, but why wasn’t there an uproar surrounding their limited release as much as there was when these Blu-rays were announced or when Jeepers Creepers 3 was announces for the third time?

Salva has made eight movies since his release from prison and only 3 have sparked any significant controversy: Powder (because it was produced by Disney), Jeepers Creepers and Jeepers Creepers 2 What about The Nature of the Beast, Rites of Passage, Peaceful Warrior and the aforementioned Rosewood Lane and Dark House? If you want to protest Salva, I 100% support your right to do that and I do understand, but you can’t be selective in your protests. You’ve got to be all in, even if his movie is getting dumped on home video. You can’t just protest only his three successful films (if you can even call Powder a success).

One must also look to other directors surrounded by controversy. I mean, it has even been said that Lewis Carroll had a sexual interest in children! Look at Roman Polanski, who fled the country just 11 months after being convicted of sexual assault towards a 13-year-old girl. If you would like to protest Salva’s films (all of them), then the same standard should be held for Polanski’s as well, and any other director who has committed a crime, even ones that aren’t related to child molestation. You can’t condemn one person over the other just because you believe one crime is worse. A crime is a crime.

Can you separate the art from the artist? If you can’t, that is okay. You should not be criticized for that, but neither should anyone who is able to separate the two from each other. If you look at the comments on Scream Factory’s Facebook post announcing the release of the Blu-rays, you can see the debate in full force. Once commenter even drew conclusions about the hidden meanings behind Powder and Jeepers Creepers (Powder is an allusion to a child having power over an adult, in reference to Salva’s history as a sex offender; Jeepers Creepers is about his desire to kill the boy that put him in prison). Even our own article announcing the release inspired some significant heckling. I for one love Jeepers Creepers. I think Jeepers Creepers 2 is alright but it wasn’t a fitting end for the Creeper or some of those characters (read: Trish). Hell, I’ve already pre-ordered my copies of those Blu-rays so that’s my stance on the matter.

I’m also still clamoring for a film in which Trish (Gina Phillips) gets her revenge on the Creeper. It may sound silly to have such an emotional investment in these films, but you have to understand that I was just 12 when the first film came out so I pretty much grew up with it. That doesn’t mean I think Salva should be involved with a potential third film (I say potential because I won’t believe it’s real until production actually starts), but I shouldn’t feel guilty for wanting another entry in the series.

This is all just my two cents on the matter. None of it is meant to be incendiary (and my opinion certainly doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things). I’m mostly interested in starting a discussion and maybe even spreading awareness of the issue. If you read the comments on the Scream Factory Facebook page, you will notice that many (younger) people were not even aware of his crimes until they read those very same comments. I don’t claim to be a know-it-all on the matter and maybe I am not fully informed on the subject. This post is not me defending a child molester and I am not saying that I excuse what he did to that boy. I’m interested to hear you thoughts on the matter. What is your stance on Salva and Shout! Factory re-releasing his two most successful films on Blu-ray? Do you want to see Jeepers Creepers 3 and if so, are you still interested if Salva is involved? Let’s discuss in the comments below.

  • CGP

    This is dangerous territory to tread, especially when the article is half-baked and poorly written. Not sure why Bloody Disgusting is publishing anything pertaining to child molestation – it’s clearly out of the website’s depth.

    • BloodyDisgusted

      What about it is half baked and poorly written?

      • Killer_Tapir

        “You can’t condemn one person over the other just because you believe one crime is worse. A crime is a crime.”

        I think many many many people would disagree with this assessment. Not all crimes are the same. Not all crimes should be punished equally. Not all crimes should result in the same level of social stigma.

        • Totally understand that, and that’s why I wrote this piece. It’s just my opinion, I’m interested to know everyone else’s.

          • Creepshow

            If you wanted to know others opinions…..
            All you needed to do was read the comments/shit storm from the Blu-ray release article.

          • alwayswipetwice

            The simple fact that Shout! closed the comments section on both release pages says it all too (if that’s not what you were talking about). Especially when they’re the ONLY Shout! releases to have closed comments.

          • Creepshow

            No. It happened here a few weeks ago.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Ah yes. I remember the article, but skipped out on the comments (I think? I don’t actually remember. Ha).

            EDIT: Nevermind. I remember!

          • Creepshow

            You’re better off if you skipped out OR forgot.

        • Gadriel

          Indeed, because a homeless person shoplifting a Snickers bar is the same as a grown man raping a 5 year old boy.
          It’s sad to say though that the state of the law is that sometimes it does seem that shoplifters get sent down more often than child molesters/

          • Jess Hicks

            I think he means you can’t disavow Salva and not Polanski or Carroll because they are the same crime.

  • BloodyDisgusted

    *kicks back with some popcorn and gets comfortable for the show*

  • Jarred Harper

    Why not get the fuck over it? What Salva did was horrible and disgusting, and in no way should it be condoned. However, Shout! Factory releasing the Jeepers Creepers movies on Blu-Ray does NOT condone Salva’s actions. For God’s sake, this was over 30 years ago… Before Jeepers Creepers was even an idea… How are the two even remotely related?

    Yea Salva was a fucking nasty SOB, but to say he should not be allowed to make movies or have any life at all…. That’s BS. You better do that with every individual who has ever been convicted of a similar crime. Meaning it is illogical and a personal choice we all have. If you don’t want to buy the blu rays, don’t! I for one cannot WAIT to add both ‘Creepers’ movies to my collection.

    LOVE the movies, the writer/director’s poor decision 30 years ago plays ZERO part in the quality of the movies. Plain and simple.

    • RidleyScott

      Justify your support for this monster however you wish. I’m putting you on the news though.

    • Gadriel

      Would you say “get over it” if it were your child he molested?
      Nah – didn’t think so.

      Your release his movies – it means you support him and accept what he did.

      Again, if you have kids YOU GET IT.
      If you have kids at a nursery school (kindergarten) and one of the teachers has been in gaol for child molestation – do you say “why not get the fuck over it?”.
      No,

      The guy is a convicted paedophile. It’s THAT simpled.
      You can enjoy his films if you like – I’m sure he’d enjoy YOUR kids.

      The guy is scum. Anyone who defends his actions obviously hasn’t got kids.
      If they have? Then damn – wtf is wrong with you?

      • RidleyScott

        Oh but it was 30 years ago Gadriel! That makes it allllll better!

        • Gadriel

          Indeed – in 5 years time he’ll expect an apology from the kids he’s abused for the inconvenience they have caused him (because no doubt it wasn’t just the one kid while making Clownhouse – that’s just the one we know about).

          • Jarred Harper

            I don’t support Salva in the slightest. I can’t stop liking Jeepers Creepers because I found out what Salva did. I’ve liked the movies for 15 years, only known what Salva has done for a year or so.

            Besides that, there are ways to obtain the Blu-rays without the money going to Salva. Used copies online, my local store, etc.

            HATE Salva, love Jeepers Creepers. If that makes me a monster, your logic is fucked.

        • Jarred Harper

          Lol I never said because it was 30 years ago, the crime is less important. That’s a fuckin ignorant assumption to make. I’m saying what does what he did 30 years ago have to do with Jeepers Creepers being released by Shout Factory now? The movie is already on DVD/blu ray anyways. Should they pull every single copy everywhere and destroy them? Go to everybody’s home and remove ALL copies of any Salva film? What about the other filmmakers/actors/etc that have committed crimes?

          Salva and the crime are hideous and repulsive. But I love Jeepers Creepers as a movie, and I have since it came out. I only heard of Salva’s crime in the last year or so. So because I now know what Salva did, I should NOT under ANY circumstances like Jeepers Creepers anymore? Should I sell the Blu ray copy I have already?

          Lol the way you pick at one or two single words in an entire post, ignoring and making up your own context is the worst argument one can possibly come up with. Get the fuck over yourself.

          • RidleyScott

            Oh so now you think everyone should own a copy of Jeepers Creepers? And you shouldn’t sell your copy because you’d just be promoting the work of Salva, even though you probably already do that anyway, because the inverse of that situation is just unequivocally evil. Carson supporter.

      • Jarred Harper

        I should specify that I said Salva and his actions were horrible and disgusting. And in no way do I support or condone him. I meant get the fuck over the fact that Scream Factory is releasing the blu rays, as the movies have zero to do with what Salva did 30 years ago. Jeepers Creepers doesn’t even have a kid in the movie, so I am struggling to see the relation.

        Honestly, it’s most likely because I saw both Creepers films before knowing who Salva is and what he did. Does that change my opinion of Salva? YES. Does it change my opinion on every single movie he has ever come into contact with? NO.

        I do not have kids, but I do have a niece and nephew that I would protect with my life. So no, I do not have to support Salva OR molesting children because I enjoy Jeepers Creepers. That, to me, is ignorant.

        Salva is a nasty pig, but that doesn’t mean everybody should hate Jeepers Creepers and say they shouldn’t be released. And buying the blu rays DOES NOT make you a child molestation advocate.

    • wehoaks

      Poor decision? I didn’t realize he simply ran a stop sign.

      • Jarred Harper

        Wow. Comparing child molestation to something as simple as running a stop sign? There’s something wrong with you…

        • wehoaks

          Actually you called child molestation a poor decision. A poor decision is doing something like say, running a stop sign. Raping a child is evil.

          There’s something wrong with you.

          • Jarred Harper

            Would you rather me say it was a good decision?
            I agree with you 110%. Molestation is evil. I don’t understand your need to call my wording out.

          • alwayswipetwice

            When people say things like “get the fuck over it” and “poor decision” it minimizes the crime. The reason this article even exists in the first place is because society and our judicial system minimizes the crime. There are some things that people shouldn’t be expected to get over. That’s what having moral standards as a society is. We have to draw the line somewhere.

          • wehoaks

            Maybe it had something to do with you starting your rant by shouting from the rooftops for everybody to “get the fuck over it”.

    • alwayswipetwice

      If he’s making money off it, then that sure as hell seems like a problem and a big fuck up on Shout!’s part. Especially when there’s TONS of other films that could benefit from the Shout! treatment. (Let’s Scare Jessica To Death, please!)

      And the fact that Shout! has to close the comments section on each release page probably is a good indicator that they should have picked different films to pour their countless hours into honoring.

      I’m starting to think that this article is just good bait to out any of his supporters.

  • Grandpa Fred

    Re: smiling in the mugshot, isn’t that what everyone does post orgasm?

  • Killer_Tapir

    I have no problem with the movies being rereleased. I wouldn’t want to erase the films that many many people put hours of work into.

    However I personally do not like the idea of financially supporting Salva, and so I will not buy any of films from retail. Everyone else is free to make their own decisions, and I won’t judge them.

    • alwayswipetwice

      You bring up an interesting point I never thought of, which is the cast and crew that had to work with/for him personally. Does that ruin their credibility? Because I don’t want to support anyone that would defend someone like Salva either. I’m sympathetic to the fact that people need work, and as ignorant as I may be to how Hollywood productions operate, I also know not everyone who works on a film ever even sees the director. I’m just wondering where you all think the line should be drawn.

      • Killer_Tapir

        I tend not to blame the cast or crew. Hollywood is Hollywood and there are a dozen reasons why someone would take a job even if it meant working with someone they utterly despise. I think you have to judge everyone by their own actions and not assume that ‘working with’ means ‘approves of’

        • alwayswipetwice

          That’s what I like to think. I guess I can only sympathize with someone that would be in such a dire need of work that working with someone like him is their only option. Definitely no judgements there.

    • Gadriel

      Although I don’t believe he should be funded to make more films (Disney? WTF? You’re supposed to be child friendly and you FUND this guy? Something wrong there, right?) I don’t believe that his films should be removed. Because where does it end?

      But, can’t they just NOT be released on Blu Ray or whatever replaces it?
      Can’t they just fade away like so many movies from the 1970s that were released on vhs, but not on dvd?

    • Jarred Harper

      COMPLETELY agree. I don’t get these imbeciles calling people who like Jeepers Creepers but HATE Salva molestation advocates.

      People are stupid.

      • wehoaks

        I don’t get imbeciles telling people to “Get the fuck over it”.

        People are stupid.

        • Jarred Harper

          Are you really that bitter about me telling people to get the fuck over Blu rays getting released? How does somebody wanting Jeepers Creepers on Blu ray change your life at all?

          I bet you support Trump too.

          • wehoaks

            Are you really that bitter about me making fun of you for telling people to get the fuck over it? How does me bringing up your poor choice of words change your life at all?

            I bet you support Trump too.

  • eloycamacho

    This is something that I struggle with all of the time, because there are a lot of artists whose work I really enjoy, but who also have committed terrible crimes. I think the issue with this particular case is that the re-release is essentially a celebration of his work and I think that’s really striking a nerve with people, myself included. Personally, I do not think I can fully make the distinction between the artist and the art, for better or for worse. With that being said, I also recognize that many people can, and that’s really okay.
    But in reference to Jarred Harper’s comment, and to a barrage of other ones that I am sure will filter in, it is not okay to look past what Salva did, even if it was over 30 years ago. That doesn’t make the crime less bad, and we certainly shouldn’t “get the fuck over it.”
    At the end of the day, people aren’t going to want to question what they enjoy if the creator does something terrible because then, that somehow reflects on the consumer. But it doesn’t really, it just means that you should consumer consciously.
    I don’t care if Shout! Factory decides to go through with the release but I also understand where those in opposition are coming from, and I wouldn’t be upset if they opted to skip the release.

    • wehoaks

      Very well-written and thought out post. If people want to see Salva’s shit, fine, do it. I just don’t understand the dopes that seem to have to say shit that sounds like a justification of his actions. Example being the dude you mention below saying to GET OVER IT. Really dude? I mean it is possible to abhor this fat fuck AND watch his films.

      Get over it? Um, sure, k.

      • Jon Lachonis

        If you had to agree with the artists moral compass to enjoy their work, nobody would listen to Rock n’roll.

        • wehoaks

          It’s possible some people just refuse to watch a child rapists films. So weird right? but hey I find it icky to do so.

          • Jon Lachonis

            Yup. When all the boys on the bus lose their shirts in jc2 you have to pause for a second and wonder what Salva’s motivation was. Creepy.

          • wehoaks

            Lose their shirts and piss side by side by side. Yeeeeeahhhhh….

          • J Jett

            Jon, yeah, as i’ve mentioned in another post here, the scenes of the young men all shirtless and sunning themselves on the bus was really icky. i was shocked (i know i shouldn’t be) when i first saw the movie because i wondered why would Salva who has that molestation background go out of his way to include scenes of sweaty, shirtless, smooth young guys sunning themselves…..

          • Gadriel

            To be honest I remember seeing that scene and instantly thinking “this guy is really taking the piss here….he doesn’t regret a damn thing”.

          • wehoaks

            Who doesn’t piss on a tree or a bush?

          • Gadriel

            I remember pissing on a bush a few years back – my missus was disgusted with me!

    • alwayswipetwice

      I don’t know if I’m necessarily in opposition to the release, but it definitely irks me because:
      1. More money for Salva and Copolla (at an overpriced $25 per blu).
      2. They’re already on blu for anyone that wants to upgrade. Why do we need a re-release with special features that Salva most likely will be featured in and commentating?
      3. All the time and effort Shout! put into both movies could have been used to honor any of the archived gems that need proper HD physical releases.

  • Creepshow

    This has already been beaten to death here in the comments from other articles. I think this boils down to a comment competition by BD writers. No need to incite another riot amongst your readers.

    • The intention was not to start a riot, but rather to start a discussion. There is no “comment competition” between us. My goal with my posts is to promote healthy. respectful discussion. I realize it doesn’t always work out that way, but I try.

      • Creepshow

        I’m just saying, we don’t need help disagreeing or fighting. It’s hard enough for some of us to get along as it is. LOL

        • Which is why I try to promote discussion. People will disagree, that is inevitable. There is a way to talk about disagreements without fighting or being rude. Healthy discussion is important. I realize I may be reaching for the stars here, but I can at least write posts like this to try to make that happen.

          • Creepshow

            I said my piece. (puting on my shit storm poncho)

          • Gadriel

            What is there to discuss?
            He’s a child molester. Discussion over.

          • I share a similar viewpoint (as I point out in the article), but there are differing opinions which means there is a discussion to be had.

          • Creepshow

            Hey Trace, what’s up with my post being highlighted up top? Saying featured by BD. And who should I thank for the trophy?

          • No idea! Maybe Jonathan?

      • Creepshow

        So far so good Trace. I’ll be a man and admit that you got a good discussion going. I guess us animals can be tamed now and then. LOL
        Hopefully soon I will grow tired of these “shit sandwiches” you make me eat. (hopefully)

    • wehoaks

      I like Trace but this is a clear example of BD fanning flames simply because they know it will drive attention to the site.

      • Creepshow

        I’m just trying to save you from a whole bunch of “duking it out”.

        • wehoaks

          I don’t seem to recall anyone saying his films shouldn’t be released either.

          • I read a comment or two on Shout Factory’s Facebook post saying something along those lines.

          • wehoaks

            Ahh. I assumed you meant here on BD. Gotcha.

          • Nah I looked around on different forums.

      • J Jett

        wehoaks, i absolutely adore Trace and his articles but i agree that this type of article will not inspire mature conversations on this site (especially since it was just recently discussed and not in a mature/respectful way on the Blu-ray release article).

        • wehoaks

          I don’t blame him for the way people behave, I do however blame Brad for having him write this article when the debate has already raged on two other times.

          • For the record, Brad didn’t have me write the article. I chose to, so the blame can be directed towards me.

          • wehoaks

            Nah, I like you and think you have integrity and your intentions are always solid. I will simply own up to my mistake.

          • And I will always own up to mine when I make them, because I am definitely not perfect and I am in no way saying I am right with my opinion.

          • Gadriel

            Everyone has the right (at the moment anyway, although I expect that will change in the coming years….) to their own opinion – this is the great thing about “alleged” freedom of speech and democracy.

            If we all had the same opinions about everything, then we would be living in a world where we are all thought slaves. And I do not want that.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Sooo anyways… How about that James Caan interview? ;D

          • Lol it’ll be up tomorrow!

      • Gadriel

        As long as those flames are the ones that Salva burns in,

        • wehoaks

          Let’s add anyone that says “Get over it”.

      • Jon Lachonis

        I disagree. It’s a legitimate topic and handled well. Let’s focus on the points raised.

  • Braker

    Looking forward to the “Let’s Talk About Roman Polanski…” article.

  • Gadriel

    It’s as simple as this : he is a convicted paedophile.
    He should have been executed.

    As simple as that.

    • Creepshow

      Hey Gadriel, you live on the other side of the pond right?
      Go find Polanski, lump him up, roll him in a sleeping bag, and send him over to the US to face the music.

      • Gadriel

        Dude, if I could – I WOULD.

        Yeah, the guy made some classic movies. That does not excuse his actions.

        It’s like over here we had a guy called Jimmy Saville who was considered a national treasure for his work for charity – he was considered a Saint. The he died and the truth came out.

        The guy did some great stuff – but at the end of the day was and evil piece of shit who I hope is burning in Hell for all time for the lives he wrecked.

        • Jess Hicks

          Do you not watch Rosemary’s Baby? Not trying to start anything, I honestly want to know.

          • Gadriel

            No, I do not.
            I also don’t listen to music by the band Lost Prophets anymore, and in the UK Gary Glitter doesn’t get any radio airplay these days.

  • J Jett

    Trace you said….

    “I’m also still clamoring for a film in which Trish (Gina Phillips) gets her revenge on the Creeper”……

    and this is a perfect example of why you are awesome! Gina is so wonderful and i’ve been hoping/waiting/praying that the 3rd movie will be about her getting revenge for her brother.

    • Gadriel

      Well I’m also still clamoring for a film where Nathan Forrest Winters get his revenge of Victor Silva….

    • alwayswipetwice

      I’ve wanted nothing more than a JC3 for years. The movies, in a vacuum separated from the monster who made them, are fun as hell. The story, characters, Creeper, and all the practical effects totally merit their continuation. But FUCK… Why does he still have a job when there are filmmakers, both employed and unemployed, who are dying for their chance. And I’m sure a lot of them would do a better job than Victor Scumbag.

      • J Jett

        alwayswipetwice, yeah, i really wish someone else would direct/write the 3rd JC movie. i don’t see what is SOOOOO essential about Salva being the one to do those 2 things.

        • wehoaks

          He probably owns a big chunk of the franchise.

          • J Jett

            wehoaks, that’s a good point. i didn’t even think of that. i admit i’m conflicted on the whole thing.

          • wehoaks

            It’s okay to be conflicted.

            I just will never understand the people that feel the need to DEFEND him and his scummy actions AND watch the films.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Is he still entitled to money from it though? I like to think he’s required to give up his piece as restitution, but the whole thing makes me too sick to even bother researching.

          • wehoaks

            I doubt he is forced to give up residuals etc. Let’s not forget it was the 80s (hence why the fat smiling fuck got like a 3 minute sentence).

        • Creepshow

          Ha Ha! You typed “always wipe twice”!
          And sooo did I.

          • J Jett

            LOL!! i know right?! every time i’ve discussed things with you it always gives me a laugh when i type your name/handle. lol. i don’t know why i always type the person’s name when i’m commenting to them. i do that on IMDB as well. LOL.

          • alwayswipetwice

            😉

  • wehoaks

    I don’t think anyone really said his films should be discontinued. Hell he can make all the films he wants. I, for one, will never support this shitstain and will have no problem calling out those that support him and seem to look past what he has done simply because they seem to NEED to have a stupid sequel.

    PS this article is unnecessary.

    • And I understand that. And I’m not “supporting him” in the slightest. I want that sequel but I don’t need him involved. Necessary or not, I wanted to write it.

      • wehoaks

        Finally someone who says it. I just posted below that it is possible to abhor Salva and want the film (I for one won’t be watching). I’ve never understood the people that feel they need to defend his crimes just because they want a sequel.

      • J Jett

        Trace. i just posted the same thing before i read your comment! (great minds think alike).

      • alwayswipetwice

        Without knowing where your dollars are going to by buying copies of the films, you could very well be supporting him (but I guess it depends how you define “support”). Part of his sentencing could involve forfeiting any profits from there on and giving them as restitution to the survivors (aka victims), in which case would free up a significant part of the conflict. I’ve been dying for a sequel, but as long as his name is in the credits in any other way than “Based on films by Victor Salva”, then I’ll just have to move on and hope for the inevitable day when a sequel or remake gets made without his involvement.

        When I first saw both films (and fell instantly in love – mainly with the first), I had no idea he was a monster, so I guess you can say that my fandom was purely out of ignorance. It wasn’t until 5 or 6 years ago, when I Wiki’d his name while searching for answers about JC3, that I learned everything. There’s nothing that gets me fired up more than sexual assault, so thinking about how much I loved those films makes me sick. I haven’t since rewatched them, but that doesn’t mean I don’t miss them. I think it’s fair to feel conflicted – not over supporting him, but rather to simply think about ever watching them again (I should also add that I’ve owned them well before my discovery, so I do already have legal access to them if I wanted).

        I don’t think fans should beat themselves up if they still want to watch them. If you can stomach to separate the art from the artist, then more power to you, but that’s something I don’t think I’ll ever be able to do. I should at least hope no one would knowingly give him money though. On the topic of Polanski – I’ve never seen any of his films because I’ve always known that story, so I have no attachment to his work and never will. Ever. Regardless of how strong people feel about Salva (or any scum like him), I feel like it’s a valid discussion to have among movie/horror fans – even if it’s only as a way for us to cope with his existence in the horror genre.

        In the end, the survivors’ recovery/well-being and the full force of the judicial system are the highest priority above anyones petty fandom for a movie.

    • Chase LeValley

      What about the hundreds of other people who work on these movies as well? Don’t they deserve to be supported?

      • wehoaks

        Below the line people are paid during production regardless off the film’s financial performance and will never see a residual check. So no, I don’t need to see this fat fuck’s work no matter how you try to spin it.

  • J Jett

    what i don’t understand is can’t someone else write/direct JC3? i love the first film but the 2nd one was definitely kind of icky (the lingering shots of the shirtless young men sunning themselves on top of the bus for example). it’s not like Salva’s directing style/writing is SOOOOOOOOO unique that it’s crucial for him to be directing these movies.

    • They can, but I get the feeling that no one feels passionately enough about it to take the reins. Salva seems to be the only one interested in getting it off the ground.

      • alwayswipetwice

        Also, isn’t his buddy Coppola responsible for giving him the job and assembling the JC franchise? (Francis, not Nic or Sofia)

  • wehoaks

    I wouldn’t say a crime is a crime and that you have to boycott ALL artists guilty of one. Getting caught with dope is so not the same as oral rape on a child. So it is definitely possible and definitely okay for someone to boycott one guilty director and not another.

    As for Polanski, etc – who says some people aren’t boycotting them as well? I think there is a tad bit too much of all or nothing involved with the article on Trace’s part when it comes to what each individual’s beliefs on the issues being dialogued here.

    I take back what I said, this article is relevant and has me looking at all facets of the issues, not just my own.

  • wehoaks

    The best is this debate is over an average filmmaker at best.

    • Creepshow

      Agreed. I actually thought Jeepers Creepers films were kinda doodie.

      • RidleyScott

        Perfunctory directing for days.

    • Jon Lachonis

      You can drop the mic on that one wehoaks. Horror in general is often successful on the efforts of other artists (acting, makeup, cinematography, lighting, music etc), and only occasionally the result of an auteur. Jeepers is a great example, I don’t see the nuance nor the sinew that comes with strong direction in these films. They are popcorn flicks. Salva is not a great director, he just organized the right talent. His smaller indie films suck ass.

      • wehoaks

        I actually have never seen any of his other films, but I did see JC and JC2 back in the day (before I knew he was a kid toucher) and never really saw any style or art. It was just blah. The dude would have a blah career even without the child rape background.

      • alwayswipetwice

        Also nailed it.

    • alwayswipetwice

      Nailed it.

    • Gadriel

      It’s actually quite (horribly) ironic that this “film maker” is more famous for his paedophila than his “art”.

  • Jon Lachonis

    It’s a tough call right? There have been examples called out, I won’t bother to revisit them, that Salva has used his role as director to get kids nearly naked etc on set. With Polanski I’ve always gone with the philosophy that you don’t have to respect the artist to respect the art especially in film where you have so many artists (actors, cinematographers, lighting, editing, sound effects, editors, score, etc) contributing in an aggregate that often eclipses the role of the director anyways. Point being you don’t have to have an opinion on Salva to enjoy, or not enjoy, his films. That said if I were an investor or a studio head I wouldn’t want to deal with his baggage; but if someone else has the stomach for it I don’t think we should question their morals. I’ve read that Salva has a group that kind of chases him from project to project trying to cause trouble for him. He may have done his time but the argument could be made he is still being punished. He hasn’t exactly had the best luck getting gigs and I doubt you’ll ever see him helming a big budget feature because of the efforts of those who seek to limit his career.

    • alwayswipetwice

      His buddy Francis Coppola is the one in charge of the JC franchise and is the one who gave him the job to begin with, so I’m not sure he necessarily needs investors. And while he may have protesters and whatnot, the bottom line is he’s a free man. If he wanted to go rape some boys there’s nothing stopping him. For all we know he’s already done it again since being released.

  • Lady Bathory

    I really wish I could separate the work & the artist! But admittedly, it’s nothing I’m good at. I’m a huge fan of Polanski’s films, for instance, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable with ever paying to see one or buying a bluray. It’s the same with bands. I can’t enjoy music when I know that band members have done anything I strongly disapprove of or support a specific ideology I can’t accept.

    That being said, I don’t think badly of people who can separate art and artist. Everyone has to decide that for their own.

    In this case here, it’s the same for me. I can’t enjoy Jeepers Creepers anymore and I won’t watch the third one, if Salva is involved in any way (although I actually like the films a lot :((( ).

    Also, I don’t agree with the statement that you can’t condemn one person over the other just because you believe one crime is worse. It may be inconsequent but if an artist is arrested for idk freeing zoo animals, I don’t equate that with molesting kids.

    So yeah, unfortunately the chapter Jeepers Creepers is closed for me.

  • Halloween_Vic

    I definitely agree that the man is sick and what he did to children is not something to forgive, but I don’t think they should boycott his past work. I like the jeepers creepers films and I’m definitely excited for part 3 but I don’t feel the jeepers creepers films represent him even though he is a creeper (pun intended), I don’t feel like releasing the films on Blu ray is a big deal, though some may take offense to it and I understand how they feel but like I said it’s just my opinion.

  • RidleyScott

    Just saying: the art that the artist makes has the artist’s thoughts and feelings all over it. Art and artist are impossible to separate.

    • Calum Sanderson

      False. The artists and the work are two separate things, and if you cannot separate the two then it is your issue.

      • wehoaks

        What if you can separate the two and still refuse to watch his films?

        • Calum Sanderson

          That’s your choice, that’s back to square one of movie watching: “Do I want to watch this yes or no?”

          Personally I don’t care for these movies nor do I care about this guy, but it’s interesting to see what other people are saying.

          • wehoaks

            In this case, though, they can’t be separated because he used his set/job to do the crimes.

      • RidleyScott

        You stay away from me.

      • Gadriel

        So it’s okay to videotape yourself raping children, as long as you can paint sunflowers quite well?

      • alwayswipetwice

        There might be some instances where you’re right. But the JC films are unfortunately reflective of his own sick mind for reasons stated throughout the comments here. That theory is only valid in a vacuum.

  • Cappy Tally

    Victor Salva used his position as a filmmaker to molest a child and to create child pornography. That’s what separates him from, say, H.P. Lovecraft and his racism, or even Roman Polanski’s rape charge. The depth of Salva’s depravity eclipses even theirs, and his crimes were enabled by his status as a filmmaker. To support the man’s art is to support the man’s ability to make more art, and he used that ability to hurt someone once, so I’d rather not enable him to do it again.

    • wehoaks

      Your comment wins the debate and it should end here.

      You put it perfectly: Telling people to separate the man from his art is impossible because he used his “art” to rape.

      • Gadriel

        Yup.

    • Creepshow

      Here Here!

    • alwayswipetwice

      Nailed it.

      This should be an obvious redundancy, but Polanski is no lesser scum. You’re just talking about the artist being reflected in his art, in the case of Salva (though I know nothing about Polanski’s work, so I can’t say). Just saying for anyone that might misinterpret your sentiment. They both deserve to rot in the same cell.

    • Jack Derwent

      Rape is rape. Polanski drugged and raped a girl against her will, got away with it, gloats about what he did (“Everyone wants to fuck young girls!”) and still gets a standing ovation from Hollywood.

      • alwayswipetwice

        Cappy Tally is just saying that Salva’s sick mind is reflected in his work. He/she isn’t trying to minimize the type of scum that Polanski is. I stated that right below because I figured someone would misconstrue his/her comment.

      • Cappy Tally

        Certainly. I can’t say I support the guy’s stuff in a general sense. I only hold reverence for a couple of his films, “Rosemary’s Baby” and “The Fearless Vampire Killers”, and maybe he did a couple more here and there that weren’t bad, but I take some solace in the fact that both of those were made before he committed his crime. It’s not much, but it’s something. The former film in particular earns the right to be hailed as the classic it is, and as the important milestone in the genre that it is.

        All I can say when it comes to Polanski and discussion of films of such caliber is that, if you are going to support new releases of his classic films like “Rosemary’s Baby” or “The Fearless Vampire Killers”, the least you can do is be vocal about your disdain for the man’s actions and for his cowardice at avoiding the punishment he deserves.

        As for whether or not he still gets royalties for, say, Criterion’s release of “Rosemary’s Baby”, I’m afraid I’m ignorant of that situation.

      • Gadriel

        Yeah, well you do hear rumours about Hollywood and their kiddie casting couches – I wouldn’t be surprised if there were hundreds of the Hollywood Elite who get their kicks with underage kids.

    • Gadriel

      In regards to Lovecraft it was a different world back then – we’ve gladly moved on.

      • Cappy Tally

        Not so sure about that. I read the news.

        • Gadriel

          Don’t let some dickheads spoil it for the rest of us.

    • James

      I’m sorry but I can’t see a difference between victor and Polanski. They’re both pedophiles.

    • Jarred Harper

      This is a logical input. Thanks! How about we replace Salva on JC3 and just go from there?

      Just because I like Jeepers Creepers and want the third to be made doesn’t mean I need Salva to be involved.

  • Frank Lloyd Jr.

    Shout Factory has Disqus on their site and the threads on JC & JC2 have both been closed with 0 comments. I wonder if they got a shitstorm of comments and deleted them or closed the threads to prevent comments.

    • You can see responses on their Facebook post announcing the releases too. I don’t think it’s possible to shut off comments for those.

  • Creepshow

    This is by far, the most civilized conversation on a “warped” topic, that I’ve seen here.
    Good job people!

  • oh_riginal

    I admit to having a hard time with separating art from the artist in this case, but at the same time let someone like Polanski slide cause Chinstown is so damn good.

    I don’t hate Mel Gibson, but I was never offended by him in the first place. I recognize the things he said were terrible, yet I didn’t care. Yet I refuse to watch John Wayne movies due to his reputation for being prejudiced against Native Americans (my ethnicity).

    So with that said, I guess I can only say I go about it in a case by case type of way. I’ll support Mel Gibson, but not John Wayne, the same way I’ll allow myself to enjoy Polanski’s films but not Victor Salva’s.

    But yeah, the hell with Salva. I used to casually like the Jeepers Creeper movies until I learned about this guy. Now I can’t enjoy those movies quite the same way anymore.

  • WindowsIsDead

    I hate Salva and what he did and I think he deserved to still be in jail, but he is not and this ain’t gonna change, so the only thing I can hope from this is that he never repeats this kind of shit again.

    On the other hand I love Jeepers Creepers 1/2 and would love to see a third entry, I think the point to considerate is that Salva can’t make a movie all by himself, there is plenty of effort and time from a lot of other people passionate for it as we are, so I don’t think it’s right to condemn the product and the crew because of this mofo.

    Is better for the world if he keeps his mind occupied in a controlled environment doing something worthy and away from repeating the unspeakable than on the loose and with free time and an empty mind to go nuts.

    He used his title of filmmaker to do it, yes, but it was almost 30 years ago, isn’t like it would be his first film since it happened. People didn’t knew about it back then, now is just a simple matter of keeping and eye on him.

    And just to be clear, I would kick the shit out of his face, what I’m doing is defending the product and trying to show that we can’t change what happened but we can prevent it from happening again without marginalizing the whole work that involve a lot of other people.

    • wehoaks

      I look at it as: We don’t allow teachers who molest students back in the classroom, why let a director who molested children ON SET back on a set?

      • WindowsIsDead

        That’s a good point, but he did it plenty. For me another director should take the sequel and he should get back to jail. But that ain’t gonna happen, and I don’t think we should condemn a product that is already done for years now. That’s the whole point.
        He never should’ve be released or set a foot on set again, but nobody took care of it and the movies are already done and out,

        I don’t know what to think, it’s a really sensitive case. I just wish he never did something like that in the first place

        • wehoaks

          I see your point. I myself will never buy or watch his films again. I look at it as all the crew, extras… below the line people have been paid. They will never see another cent from the film. However, Salva and the ones who hired/produced/made the films with him will every single time it is purchased.

          • WindowsIsDead

            Yeah, I changed my mind, I was really trying to see from the pov of the product and cast and crew, but I realized it will ever sound like defending him, so no, I don’t want this, screw him.

            I’m gonna watch it one last time and then never again, and I’m not paying for it.

          • wehoaks

            You do your thing man. I wasn’t trying to sway you one way or the other either. Just letting you know that the little people have already been paid/supported.

          • WindowsIsDead

            Don’t worry, it was a collective of stuff that made me realize it. I don’t want to be linked as a child molester defender or something like it. No, hell no.
            But you’re right nevertheless, and I thank you for that

    • alwayswipetwice

      What would be better for the world is if he was never allowed to see the light of day, unless it’s through steel bars. Since we are talking about the ideal situation…

      Your reasoning is a slippery slope that only benefits the scum you’re talking about.

      • WindowsIsDead

        I couldn’t agree more with you, but justice haven’t prevailed on this case, unfortunately is beyond our reach.

      • WindowsIsDead

        I see you edited, well, I don’t want to benefit this scum.
        Maybe I put the wrong words or wasn’t able to phrase it right for your understanding.

        Oh, screw it, let’s go kill him and end all this shit. I don’t want to talk about this crap any more. I really try to think about the crew and the effort and how I like the movie, but you’re right, there isn’t a right side on this, so fuck him.

        • alwayswipetwice

          I did edit, and didn’t annotate only because there were no responses yet (but they were probably waiting to be approved). Don’t sweat it though. It takes more than that to be labeled a defender of scum, and I don’t think anyone, including myself, jumped to that conclusion. Just wanted to point out the flaw in that reasoning. All’s good, buddy =)

      • WindowsIsDead

        I agree with you, and because of that I deleted the whole thing. I was really trying to see from the pov of the product, but there is no way out of it, it will always bounce back to Salva, and I don’t want it.

        Thanks for helping me realize it

        • alwayswipetwice

          I know it’s after the fact, but I don’t think you needed to delete your comment (for the future). This is all part of a dialogue, so there’s nothing inherently definitive about making a comment (especially because you didn’t say anything irredeemable, imo). I’ve made comments on this site that are no longer reflective of how I feel now, so anyone that frequents the site should realize that on their own (re: the piracy “discussions”). We’re only human. As long as you’re rational, humble, and progressive, no one can really fault you. People change and it’s good for others to see that progression. =)

          • WindowsIsDead

            Yeah, I know, normally I do like to leave old comments and just do separated edits for the reasons you stated, but this one felt kinda saturated so I decided to let it go because I wasn’t feeling comfortable with it anymore, it was more for me than anything else. Kinda of closure if you will

          • alwayswipetwice

            I gotcha. No worries.

  • J Byron Nickles

    Victor Salva isn’t the only one who worked on and is getting paid for those films. Boycotting them would mean boycotting a bunch of people who did nothing wrong.

    • wehoaks

      K.

    • Chase LeValley

      Totally agreed. If a third Jeepers Creepers is made, I’ll be buying it just to support everyone else who worked on the film. People are a little too rash about this topic.

      • wehoaks

        Those people will have been paid regardless if 1 or 100000000000 people see it and will never see a residual check. I wouldn’t call boycotting a rapist and his enablers rash. I would call you’re reasoning a bit rash seeing as it is hardly believable as the true reason you’re planning to see JC3.

      • Gadriel

        But if Salva directs it then you will be KNOWINGLY supporting a paedophile.
        Explain that to your kids – if you have them.

      • Gadriel

        Question for you – if you were unemployed and were going to work in (for example) a hardware store, and knew the owner was a child rapist – would you work for them?

        Now, why is that different if you’re an actor?

        If you ARE willing to work for a PROVEN (because video tapes exist) paedophile, then what does that say about YOU?

    • Killer_Tapir

      True, but those people also work on other films that I would continue to support. So whislt I’m boycotting 100% of Salva’s films, in totality I’m only boycotting say… 5% of Justin Long’s films.

      Yes, both are punished, but the innocent party is punished to a far lesser degree. I guess.

      • Gadriel

        Thing is though, should we be “bothered” that we’re not supporting a movie with Justin Long in it? Surely he KNEW what Salva did – it wasn’t a well hidden secret, but he decided to work for the guy anyway….

        • Killer_Tapir

          I’ve already approached this in another comment, but in short, I don’t blame people for working with him. Salva’s actions are his own. Unless someone comes out and tries defending him, I won’t judge them for it.

          (Background: Justin Long’s IMDB shows Jeepers Creepers as his third acting role. I would admire an actor in that position who would turn down a role in a film like that because they didn’t want to work with Salva. But giving up what very well could be a big break in your chosen career is a lot to ask anyone.)

          • Gadriel

            Yup – because a low budget horror movie directed by a nonce is a BIG BREAK.

          • Killer_Tapir

            A leading role in a studio backed horror movie.

            Pretty much. Yes.

    • wehoaks

      The crew and all other below the line people who worked on Salva’s films have been paid and will never see another cent from these films and they will be paid for JC3 regardless of it’s financial performance. Salva and those who hired him and produced the film with him will see money each and every time it is purchased. That is what I am boycotting.

  • Jack Derwent

    100% agree about Polanski. Disgusting that so many of Hollywood is supportive of him.

  • guest

    no. thank you.
    victor salva could not possibly put anything on film that i would want to spend my time viewing or being exposed to.

  • Ryan Dawson

    Very well written.

  • pablitonizer

    I wonder… shoudn’t production companies, producers & even actors be also judged for working with this monster?

    • alwayswipetwice

      Probably not unless we know more about them. Francis Coppola, who produced the JC’s, is the only one that is seriously condemnable. He got Salva on his feet after his incarceration and ultimately secured him as the head of the franchise (if I’m not mistaken).

      • pablitonizer

        So why should be feel like contributing to his crimes and not actors, producers & companies that worked with/for him?

        • alwayswipetwice

          Why should we feel like we’re contributing to his crimes? (Sorry, I don’t fully understand your comment.)

      • James

        While I agree what he did was awful, but do people not have the right to have a career after serving their sentence?

        • alwayswipetwice

          Of course they have a right to a career. I hear inmates make a killing manufacturing shoes and license plates.

          But seriously, he belongs in prison just like every other rapist. That’s what prison is for – to keep the society us non-violent people live in safer. The rapists and murderers that the system allow to be free don’t deserve to be taking jobs from the rest of us. Seems fair to me because that’s the life they chose.

  • LOX TO THE DEATH

    I aint buying these blu-rays myself I actually prefer Jeepers 2 the scene of the creeper sniffing around the bus is genuinely one the scariest scenes I ever watched.Hollywood is full of weirdo’s some the worst will never be exposed cause the power and money they got you are prolly putting money in some scumbag piece of shits pocket every time you buy a dvd. Look at Jeffrey Jones he was convicted the same thing as salva it aint gon make me boycott Beetlejuice.

  • dave o

    People will think I’m awful but him being a convicted paedophile doesn’t really change my view on his films. I still think Jeepers Creepers in an amazing movie and although I won’t invest in the blurays I have both films on DVD and will continue to enjoy them.

  • The Heatmiser

    In a perfect world, people would have zero interest in watching a Victor Salva movie because of what he did, but they do have an interest in watching his movies and will pay to do so, so the studio allows him to work. You can say the same about John Landis, Steven Spielberg, and Frank Marshall who were responsible for three deaths on the Twilight Zone movie, or Alien 3 actor Charles Dutton who is a convicted murderer. Bottom line is that the entertainment industry no longer cares who is making them money, as long as they are making them money. It is only when public outrage reaches the point where it effects their profits that they develop a moral code.

    • alwayswipetwice

      The Twilight Zone: The Movie incident is horrific. Not sure of all the details, but from what I’ve read the studio is the one to blame for violating child labor laws and disregarding safety regulations (Landis might have some culpability too). That’s one of my favorite horror/scifi films based on one of my favorite shows that I saw as a kid (similar to the JC’s, it was before I knew anything). Disturbingly fucked up all around.

      • wehoaks

        And as tragic as it was it wasn’t intentional/murder. Salva purposely raped children.

        • alwayswipetwice

          Wasn’t at all trying to liken the TZ incident to Salva’s crimes. Just commenting on that one thing specifically.

          • wehoaks

            Oh I know, was just adding on to your comment.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Gotcha. Scary to think there might be some that need that clarification.

          • wehoaks

            Totally.

    • James

      How about Matthew Broderick who killed a mother and kid in Ireland (I think) and fled and got away with it. Tons of people have done awful things and still have a career.

    • Ocelot006 .

      Yeah Spielberg and Marshall hold no responsibility on that Twilight Zone death. That was all on Landis’ segment. Landis went to court. Not them. Real problem is people not having all the facts. Look ignorance is bliss. If people got talent, then let them work.

      • The Heatmiser

        Maye the Twilight Zone tragedy was not the best example in relation to Salva, however, if you look up that incident, Spielberg was magically excused from any blame even though he was producer. Marshall and Landis hired two underage kids to work illegally, and Landis had zero regard for the safety of his actors. In the end it was a tragic accident caused by criminal level carelessness.

        • Ocelot006 .

          Spielberg wasn’t on set nor was there much reason for him to found even indirectly responsible hence why he never set foot in that court room. Also the incident that ended Landis’ and Spielberg’s friendship. And all in all that was a crazy accident anyhow so yeah definitely not in the same league as Salva. I’m not even sure why everyone is clamoring to compare incidents to Salva’s situation. It’s as if you all desire for there to be more people as big of a piece of trash as him. Kinda sick as far as I am concerned.

  • Kelli

    My opinion, is that Salva should not be allowed to work on films that have cast under 18. No convicted sex offender should. For some reason, Hollywood seems to be above the law and that needs to change. I will not be buying any films he’s involved with, but I will watch Jeepers 3 when it comes to Netflix.

    • Jimmy Cthulhuhan

      Well, he’s not allowed to work with minors directly. They can still be in his movies, they’ll be shot by 2nd unit director or something, but he’s not to be in the same room. At least this is what one of his crew members says…

      • Good to hear this! Though I would love verification.

        • DuckingGold

          Standard condition of a sex offender, can’t live near schools, be around kids etc.

    • Braker

      You won’t buy the films, but you’ll support the platform that will pay for the licensing of JC3 when it is made? A platform you pay a subscription service for?

  • elpinche

    I love Jeepers Creepers so I’m getting the Blu-ray. Plus I’m a sick fuck and a collector of sorts (not children). I have a copy of Shonen A signed by Issei Sagawa, renowned buttcheek eating cannibal, so this is up my alley.

    • wehoaks

      Yikes.

    • Mr. Screamer

      What. Just… what.

    • DuckingGold

      Bet you’re fun at parties.

  • RidleyScott

    The dude on the left is creepier.

  • Mick Thomas

    I feel like people should have boycotted him before he had a “successful” career. Audiences had 10 years and 3 films to make sure this dude’s career ended with his conviction before “Jeepers Creepers” was released. Instead, we get SJW’s 15 years after the film and 25 years after the conviction trying to throw a fit. He is a monster, no doubt. But his shitty horror films’ distrobution deals should be the least of the public’s concern. Like the article’s author mentions Roman Polanski. No one in their right mind will stop buying or watching “Rosemary’s Baby” for anything or anyone. To someone, Salva’s films are their “Rosemary’s Baby” (sadly), I strongly believe nobody has the right to deprive them of that.

    • wehoaks

      You say that as if all people were aware of this creep’s actions. Hell most people on this site weren’t even alive when he committed the crime. I myself didn’t know of his actions until well after JC2 came out. For me, sure make films, get deals, I for one won’t watch his shit. If that makes me an SJW (I meaaaaan…) k??

      • alwayswipetwice

        SJW, noun – A slur used to describe someone that refuses to remain silent about sexual assault, racism, sexism – basically all forms of bigotry and prejudice – and any discriminatory belief or practice that results in a lower quality of living for anything alive.

        How dare someone call us— Wait…
        Why is “SJW” supposed to be a slur again?

        • wehoaks

          The people who constantly use terms like SJW or politically correct are almost always the people that consider them a negative. “I know it isn’t politically correct…” “Ugh you’re such an SJW…” What the hell would they say if those terms didn’t exist? They need it more than we do because to us we are just rational, level headed, decent people. AKA not assholes. If the terms didn’t exist they might have to actually confront the indecency in themselves.

          • alwayswipetwice

            ie: “Those damn SJW’s gave women the right to vote!”

            Yay! We’re the bane of society! ;D

    • Stu Corbett

      Actually, there are people who won’t watch Polanski, Allen films because of their “actions.” I’ve watched films of theirs, before I knew. I loved Rosemary’s Baby. But I’ll never watch again. It’s the principle.

      • alwayswipetwice

        I don’t think you can measure one case against another, but the story behind Polanski’s crime is fucking heinous. And the excuses people use to defend him are revolting. There really aren’t strong enough words to describe people like them.

  • Brett Wolfe

    “A crime is a crime.” So…smoking a joint? Shoplifting a video game? Just as bad as pedophilia?
    Yeah…NO.

  • Calavera Sonriente

    I think it’s important to have this discussion at some point and it’s interesting to see that opinions on this subject matter vary this much. For me personally the situation is clear: I won’t buy or see any of Salva’s movies ever again. Same goes for other directors, actors, artists in general who’ve done shit like that. Molestation, Rape, animal snuff in movies, dog fights, etc. I don’t expect people to do the same and I don’t think I’m better than anyone. It’s just the right thing to do FOR ME.
    I’d already known about this for some time but even if people become aware of the Salva situation NOW, it’s better than never and their decision shouldn’t be based on the argument ‘well…it happened a long time ago’.

  • VTTM

    Couldn’t agree more with the article. I just effing want a third one, wether Salva is involved or not, I simply do not care.

  • Mr J.

    People watch and praise the Woody Allen films and while he may not have been convicted, it’s still a scummy thing that he did.

    • Ocelot006 .

      What scummy thing did he do? No more scummy than your average cheater really.

      • Stu Corbett

        Most cheaters don’t cheat with their adopted daughter.

        • Ocelot006 .

          And once again, not his adopted daughter. Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter. And he’s still happily married to Soon-Yi or whatever the hell her name is so in the end, who gives a fuck? The man cheated. At most he’s an asshole. Doesn’t belong in the same breath as someone like Salva or even Polanski.

      • Mr J.

        The whole thing with his foster, maybe adopted, daughter. There were allegations that he was messing with her before she turned 18, but that’s all they were.

        • Ocelot006 .

          And again, at most he cheated on his…I keep forgetting if he and Farrow were actually married but anyhow at most he cheated on his wife then apparently cheated on him with Sinatra. So just look at it as revenge. ‘Oh you fuck Sinatra behind my back and have a kid that I think is mine with his jizz? Fine. Then I go fuck your adopted daughter.’ Even Steven as far as I’m concerned.

    • DuckingGold

      He didn’t break the fucking law, and she was of legal age.

      • Jess Hicks

        They are talking about Mia Farrow accusing him of molesting her daughter.

      • Stu Corbett

        Sooooo Allen is okay because he waited for his adopted daughter to turn legal age for sex?

      • Mr J.

        Well, there were allegations that he was messing with her before she turned 18, but none were proven.
        Still, you gotta admit it was pretty scummy of him.

  • DBZEROGRAVITY

    I’m with you on this one, Trace. I love Jeepers Creepers (not the second one so much) so I see no problem with releasing the blurays or JC3

  • Amberella

    This is the thing. His fetishes are literally being PROJECTED through his films. Its not like he is making a movie about evil sock people or something. That’s one of the main issues with this specific situation. So yeah, it’s hard to separate the art from the artist when his projects surrounds young, male victims which, guess what his sexual preference is? Young and male. Your support for this kind of content should make you actually question your personally integrity. If you are fighting opinions like mine, excusing actions like the director’s, sit the fuck down and question your fucking self.

    *disclaimer:
    1. No I don’t support/watch anymore Polanski, Allen, etc.
    2. I did only find out about this a few years ago, and for this very alright series (jeepers creepers) I didn’t give a fuck getting rid of my interest for it because of its source.
    3. Nothing, and I mean nothing, can ever excuse his actions. So stop bringing up other situations to compare to this because nothing compares to his victim’s experiences for YOUR entertainment.

    • Ocelot006 .

      Why don’t you support Allen? Man was never found guilty of anything.

      • Stu Corbett

        He literally married his adopted daughter.

        • Ocelot006 .

          That’s the thing though. It wasn’t his adopted daughter. It was Mia Farrow’s. Get your facts straight.

  • RKSDooM

    Everybody should be allowed to create art, just as everybody can then choose whether or not to support that art. Pretty straightforward, really.

    • Stu Corbett

      Victor Salva hid behind art to rape a child. That’s not real art. That’s depravity.

  • wehoaks

    To those saying get over it or the like: Salva is available for any and all forms of child care. You should contact him! Word is that he works for free!

  • Blake Evernden

    Alright, bottom line is do we want convicted criminals, of any sort, to be reformed? Is that what we’re looking to do, or are we of the mind that they should all be locked up for eternity and never allowed to contribute to society, ever? The man was rightfully convicted of an awful crime. He served way more time than most in Hollywood who are convicted, and he’s NEVER been convicted of anything since. He will ALWAYS be a registered sex offender and he will never be allowed to work with certain individuals. That will never change. So, I think he’s a pretty good filmmaker, and I think that any art (regardless of whether you consider what he makes, art) deserves to be seen. Again, what do we want from our justice system, and when is a convicted offender allowed to re-enter society?

    • wehoaks

      He has reentered society, He is allowed to and is still is making films. A lot of us just choose not to see this dirty creep’s shit.

      • Mike Mitchell

        I hope you change the radio station next time Thriller comes on

        • wehoaks

          i don’t listen to the radio. Nor buy that shits work either.

          I hope you walk away from children when you see them.

    • alwayswipetwice

      I can’t speak for anyone else, but I want the justice system, and the government it’s a part of, to ensure the safety of its citizens by keeping scum like him off the streets. We shouldn’t have to fear for the safety of our children, partners, family, friends, fellow good citizens, and ourselves because our flawed system sees someone who does drugs as more dangerous and more deserving of punishment than scum like Salva, Polanski, the Steubenville rapists, the list goes on and on. The message it sends is “Doing harm to yourself is worse than doing harm to others” and “Don’t worry, you’ll serve a couple years and be back on your feet in no time”. It’s almost as if the system as sympathy for them. And I say “lives” because if you’ve ever dealt with it, you’ll know the life-shattering effect it has on everyone involved. People turn on the survivors, blaming them, treating them like they’re crazy. You’ll feel the darkest emotions and have violent, vengeful thoughts that you never knew you were even capable of having. The only reason I’m hesitant to wish it on those types of scum is the fear of thinking like them. I don’t blame anyone for wishing rapists to be raped – it can be a cathartic fantasy for sure – but I don’t think revenge should ever be confused with justice. But as it is now, Lady Justice can take that blindfold off her eyes and wipe her ass with it.

      Sorry for the long winded, emotional response, but ultimately my answer is never. They should never be allowed to re-enter society. They’re repeat offenders. Keep in mind too that just because they were only convicted once, doesn’t mean it was the first time they’ve done it. It just means they got caught. So make examples out of every single one of them. It sends the message that we’re not fucking around, which I think is the right one.

      • Ocelot006 .

        Never allowed to re-enter society? Jesus. No forgive and forget with you.

        • alwayswipetwice

          They premeditate their crimes and manipulate everyone they know because they’re sociopaths. Does that not speak for itself? People make it seem like “Oops! He accidentally raped someone!”. We don’t need to forgive everyone. Not feeling sympathy for a rapist doesn’t make you an insensitive monster.

          I guess what I really want to know is: If once isn’t enough, then how many times should a rapist rape before we draw the line and deem them a threat to society?

          • Ocelot006 .

            Twice. There you go. Someone does something once. Pays the price and plays nice the rest of their life, yeah I think we should cut them some slack. Sue me. ‘We put him away and he re-entered society a decent enough man? Success!’

          • alwayswipetwice

            I guess the problem is that there’s no way to know if they’re playing nice until they get caught again. The majority of rapes aren’t creepy people hiding in bushes. They live among us and are repeat offenders. So when we finally catch one red-handed, it seems like an injustice to society that we would let them back out, naively thinking they’re cured or have repented. They had a fair chance at life already and fucked it up.

          • Ocelot006 .

            Well sorry, I believe in redemption. I believe in second chances. People are allowed a fuck up.

  • EskimoKill41

    Unless you’re prepared to throw every copy ever printed of the Complete Works of Lewis Carroll onto a bonfire, there’s no reason to be having this conversation.

  • THERIPPER69

    He’s a fucking pedophile! Period! Oh mommy didn’t show him enough love when he was a child? Tough shit! A lot of people grew up in tough environments. That’s one of the problems in today’s world shift the blame to someone else.

    • DuckingGold

      Where the fuck does it say that?

  • Chrimera

    You’re totally right. We never hear enough of the *good* things about pedophiles.

    • Not at all what I am saying in this post. In fact, I even say that I believe he should still be in prison.

      • Chrimera

        There’s a big difference between separating art from artist and crime from criminal.

        Sure Dahmer was a horrific serial killer, great cook though! Gacy? Terrible man, fantastic painter and great with balloon animals!

        • Dominique Sings

          Eh, Gacy wasn’t that good a painter.

      • Jody Branham

        Your points are well made, Trace. It bothers me that Polanski seems to always get a pass and Salva doesn’t. For one I know it’s because Polanski raped a girl and Salva a boy, that automatically makes Salva worse for too many people.

        Also Polanski anally penetrated a drugged girl and Salva’s was oral. Not saying either is any less of a victim than the other, but Polanski’s feel so much more violent to me.

        I hate both men myself and cannot separate the art and artist for either, but the Polanski pass irks me. I won’t touch either of their films. That said, that’s an individual choice and experience for each person, so I say report away on JC3 and we can choose to read the articles or watch the films for ourselves.

        I always enjoy your work on BD and your tweets back when I used Twitter (NerdyHorrorGuy).

  • I understand the nature of the philosophical debate, but “a crime is a crime” is very far removed from this. I have (theoretically) no problem with criminals. I don’t have numbers, but just looking at the roads, the average high school party, and hell even the average bar and I can tell you that it’s not exactly a small number of people who have broken some law or other. I don’t knock the hustle; I can live with people selling drugs, speeding, and a lot of things. When somebody commits sexual abuse or child endangerment, on the other hand (and all of the many crimes associated with those elements) it gets me boiling mad. Those are not forgivable things, and they actually harm people. Therefore, regardless of your personal feelings toward the matter of art vs artist, you can’t just say “all crimes are the same, and if you’re okay with one you must be okay with all of them). The person with illegal tints on his windows because he thinks they look cool and the person who raped someone’s mother aren’t in remotely the same category.

    • wehoaks

      And as Cappy Tally said: this fuck used his set to perpetrate his crimes. To me this is even worse than if he was a pedophile that just happened to be a director. This grossly sick fuck combined the two.

  • Dominique Sings

    On the one hand, he did some time for his crimes -even if not long enough- and he deserved a fair chance to be somewhat integrated into society again. On the other hand, I don’t know if it’s fair that he can work as director again like that, which is a pretty well-paid job. I am sure there are some at least equally talented young, hungry and well, innocent directors who would have loved to get such a job. Not to speak of the undertones in his movies. Nobody at Disney noticed the subtext of Powder, no?

  • Nathan Bradley

    Just look how far you can go and still end up in Hollywood! I love both Jeepers Creepers films and I would own these If they see a release in the UK, I hope Jeepers Creepers 3 happens as a theatrical film. I will say that a crime is a crime he should never have done what he did, shame because JK 1 & 2 are fantastic.

  • I would not banned or unrelease his films….but if you think that Creeper keeps attacking young boys on his films – and eats them (particularly in the second movie)…it almost feels that there is some context there if you know what I mean. On the other hand, knowing that I would not buy something from him and while I do think that people deserve a second chance…spending time in prison for 3 years whereas you hack a computer and you get 20 is beyond me

    • alwayswipetwice

      Agreed that punishments are often way disproportionate to their crimes, but do rapists deserve second chances? There’s no such thing as “involuntary rape”, unlike manslaughter (ie: vehicular). It’s 100% premeditated by sociopaths. So does giving people like him second chances somehow lessen the crime and send the message that you can permanently ruin someones life and still be allowed to freely live yours?

      • Agreed but would not manslaughter be on the same level? If someone kills another person they actually ruin as well the lives of the related family or even if the victim himself/herself survives the attack. Point is I am always on the verge for this type of subject – could be a strong no, ban him! or a slight yes but would not want to do anything related to him. But personally knowing now that he is a convicted molester….I would not buy his films because they can be seen from my point of view from a whole new different take. If they want to release, sure…but not for me.

        • alwayswipetwice

          If you lose control of your car and kill someone for reasons other than being under the influence or driving recklessly, then I don’t think you deserve the same punishment as someone who voluntarily runs someone down. That’s where the involuntary part matters. If you’re a compassionate person, then having to live with someones innocent blood on your hands seems like the worst possible punishment, imo. And if you show no remorse, then that’s where I see the differentiation between the two types of people. The violently malicious ones who actively seek to ruin and/or end lives are the ones I think need to be kept away from the rest of us. So on topic of Salva – I think he, and anyone like him, should be locked away from the rest of us. They had their shot at living a free life and they used it to destroy others’.

          • putting it like I tend to agree friend. I do believe in second chances….but in this case I do not think so

  • Jeff

    I think Polanski and Allen are in a different category entirely. They like young girls. No, in all seriousness, a film maker should be judged on their ability to craft a good film rather than on their skill to seduce (or be seduced by) “minors”. This topic shows up repeatedly on BD since they’ve no news or worthy topics to offer for discussion anymore. Focus your moral judgement on those who actually have an effect on your life… politicians for example.

    • wehoaks

      I think a lot of people, myself for one, abhor Salva even more because he used his own set to perpetrate his crimes. He targeted a child working on his film at the time. A person has every right to judge a filmmaker on their horrible atrocities, especially an atrocity that was perpetrated by the power they hold at work.

      Also…

      “a film maker should be judged on their ability to craft a good film rather than on their skill to seduce (or be seduced by) “minors”.

      FUCKING REALLY? Minors in quotes? Suggesting an adult/Salva was seduced by a child? Fuck off to the moon you cow.

    • alwayswipetwice

      Wait… You’re saying Hat killed 23 babies… out of self-defense?

    • Stu Corbett

      Your use of the words “seduce” and “or be seduced by minors” are incredibly disturbing.

      • wehoaks

        Creepy, sick, and perverted as well.

    • Meisha’s Taint

      How does an adult get seduced by a child?

      • John Connor

        Baby Jesus does it all the time.

  • Luke

    1. I LOVE the idea of cutting off royalties. If a professional sports team can cut ties I think a production company should be able to amend contracts based on horrific crimes. I personally don’t like my money going toward someone who has done those things. I don’t think a contract should include everything like stealing a pack of gum from the grocery store, but definitely for bigger issues.

    2. I’ve never liked the idea of banning film, I want access to everything so I can make my own personal decision on if I want to support a film. That being said, I don’t think I would pay to see a third knowing this now (I had no idea and I think we’re about the same age).

    3. I disagree with ‘a crime is a crime’. I think you were making a point but we all know there are degrees. There’s a big difference in child molestation and (among everything) justin bieber peeing in a mop bucket lol.

    I like the article though, it brings up some great points and questions.

  • Thad R Moorland

    Of course some crimes are worse than others. There is really no comparison between the sexual molestation of a child and, say, getting caught shoving DVDs down your pants at Walmart. One will have lasting physiological and emotional effects that can be deeply damaging, the other is who the fuck cares about Walmart and their DVDs? My point is, that was a stupid statement. He should be punished by having his work locked away and destroyed, for that is a far worse punishment then imprisonment for any artist, to see their creations set alight,either literally and metaphorically. We have plenty of films in this genre to keep us happy, and then some. Given the authority I would have him locked away and all his work destroyed.

    • DuckingGold

      But then you destroy the royalties that others may get and depend on, who worked on the films. How is that fair to them?

      • Eric Clermont Player

        I work in the film business and if I were to work on a film in this situation I can tell you I would gladly have my share of any title “bought out” in exchange for it never, ever seeing the light of day again. Good riddance.

    • alwayswipetwice

      Incarcerating rapists, or any violent criminal, isn’t just about punishing them, but more about keeping them away from the rest of us, thus creating a safer society. It says “Okay, you’re a threat to others, so you gotta go”.

  • Ryan Dailey

    He’s a goddamn creeper no doubt about that. But he’s only one name on the credits. This is the first I’ve heard about the whole darkness surrounding the director.

    The first Jeepers Creepers was one hell of a movie, perhaps even greatly under rated. I don’t think that what the director has done should be involved with the re-release. It really wouldn’t make any sense. That’s not how this specific system operates. Perhaps if he had been the only one involved in the production some sort of boycott could have merit but that’s simply not the case here.

    Justin Long is gonna get his fucking paycheck. He’s gonna get paid for this, Live Free or Die Hard, Waiting and the little bit he gets from Idiocracy. Pay the guy. Not his fault the director is a pedo.

    Are we going to stop eating subway? Fuck no. In fact I’m going to go get myself a footlong meatball marinara and watch Jeepers Creepers tonight cuz i haven’t had both in a while.

    The point is controversy surrounds everyone. Is a recovering coke junkie going to stop watching Toy Story because Tim Allen spent all those years in prison? No, of course not.

    The best way to handle this would be to keep his name off the front cover and keep it discretely tucked in the minimalistic credits on the back. No George A. Romero’s… type shit for this guy. I think that’d be reasonable punishment from the community. Because there isn’t anything else that we can do. Like i said. He’s only one name on the credits. I’m sure the catering staff had a pedo on staff. Wouldn’t be surprised if most movies do the way the world is these days.

    There’s really no debate. I want a bluray set with special features. Skip the directors commentary. I don’t want to hear anything out of that mouth after what its done.

    • wehoaks

      There’s a lot people can do. Like not watching his shit, as I choose to do.

    • Stu Corbett

      If your argument is that “others are doing it” and “we can’t do anything about it,” you’ve literally rationalized every, single wrong in the history of the world.

      • Ocelot006 .

        That is the thought sense of everyone that pirates entertainment. As far as I’m concerned, throw entertainment pirates with the rapists. Same thought process.

      • Ryan Dailey

        Yet in every instance our naivety as a race forces us to repeat history. Most of us just stand to the side and let it go until it backs up and runs us over as well. That’s the thing with history. No matey how passionate we are or where our values lay, they never help dispel the fog. We can only tell ourselves we think the best and hope all the assholes burn in hell. He will get his in the end. You can at least have faith in that.

    • RidleyScott

      I’M GONNA WRITE A NOVEL BECAUSE I HAVE TO JUSTIFY WATCHING HIS MOVIE TO MYSELF!!!

    • alwayswipetwice

      First off, he’s not a goddamn “creeper” – he’s a goddamn rapist. The fact that people insist on using euphemisms when talking about these crimes/criminals is reflective of the overarching problem in our society – which is that we’re afraid of facing the problem head on. Like when it’s referred to in the media as “forced intercourse” – WTF. It’s called rape, or sexual assault. It’s a violent crime committed by violent criminals. Not a “crime of passion”. Period.

      Now that we got that out of the way, I don’t think JC is underrated at all. I mean, look at this article. It’s clearly a movie that many horror fans value, or valued at some point in their lives. I think it’s probably cherished more than it should be. But this is all subjective, so I digress.

      And censoring his name from being displayed is a form of punishment? Tricking people into buying it is a solution? How about we just censor HIM. From society. Permanently. I think there’s plenty worth salvaging from the franchise, so hire someone semi-talented, remake the franchise, and wash his name and his sick projections clear of it.

      But I do agree with you that there’s no debate. He’s a convicted rapist (not a “creeper”). A child rapist, no less. But a rapist, and all rapists think and act alike. They’re sociopaths who manipulate their victims and everyone they know. They can’t be trusted, so they need to be removed from society.

      • Ryan Dailey

        Creeper was in reference to his current status. Its curious… Do these details not matter to Hollywood?

  • Stu Corbett

    First, I think it’s commendable for BD to not only address Silva but to start a dialogue about it.
    For me, I(morally) will not watch JC-3 or any other of Silva’s films again. BD brings up a good point, when it comes to Allen and Polanski. They are somehow spared from the scorn and revulsion that would haunt an offender who was anonymous. The only time I’ve heard of a concerted effort to address Polanski’s crime was when a group of actors/musicians got together in an attempt to have Polanski given amnesty. One of the celebrities advocating for Polanski…was Woody Allen. Friends of a feather, I guess.

    Anyway, my point is if you take away Silva’s “status” would you still have the same rationalization? We don’t know if Silva will profit from JC-3. Are you willing to risk lining his pockets, just to be entertained for 90 minutes?

    Last thing. JC-3 (if it actually happens) is scheduled to be filmed in Vancouver Canada…where I live. In the unlikely event Silva gets into Canada (all convicted rapists are ineligible for entry), I’d take it upon myself to contact Canada Border Services and Silva’s gone.

    So if you really, really wanna see JC-3, directed by Victor Silva, if you think Silva’s “art” trumps his crime, maybe you can petition to have him film in your neighborhood? Maybe Woody Allen will sign it.

    • Evan3

      Good point. Thanks BD – I had no idea about his past and really appreciate you addressing it and sharing your opinion.

  • Captain Spaulding

    I don’t think too many horror fans will pass up watching JC3 over Salva’s past crimes if i’m being honest and if anything the controversy around the director will help sales of the movie especially if people are asking others to boycott it.

  • Meisha’s Taint

    I can’t fucking believe that is his actual mug shot. That says everything you would ever need to know about him. I could never forget a face like that Salva if I see you in the streets I’m going to fuck you up.

    • wehoaks

      Yikes right?

  • James Bojaciuk

    It has been conclusively proven by historians such as Jenny Woolf, Karoline Leach, Jenna Marie West, and Edward Wakeling that Lewis Carroll was not a pedophile, and had no sexual interest in anything but adult women. Any allegations to the otherwise started decades after not only his death, but the deaths of all his child-friends. It’s a rumor that refuses to die, but a thoroughly ahistorical rumor.

  • jasonlives1986

    I guess serving his time for his crimes and your ability to not watch the movies or buy the dvds isn’t enough for some.

    Dude is a pig but that’s irrelevant to his job.

  • zombie84_41

    Should make a horror movie bout him but the kids wind up torturing him salo 120 days of sodom style

  • alliedcola

    In regards to Salva, I wouldn’t discontinue shit, people who can still enjoy his works should be free to do so, but I absolutely refuse to watch or listen to anything produced by someone that disgusting and unscrupulous.

    Honestly I’m amazed, and more than a little perturbed, that ‘men’ like that can still find work to begin with, much less total respect and adoration, in Polanski’s case.

    Even if someone of that nature can be reformed, and I seriously doubt it, they most certainly should not be given the same power and trust that they exploited in the first place, especially considering the disturbing undertones present in some of their films.

    Rant over.

  • Kirby4Ever

    It certainly is a polarizing, divisive topic. I think Jeepers Creepers 1 & 2 are okay films. I’ll watch them when they come on AMC or SyFy (which has been frequently, lately). Not buying them on Blu-Ray is a mixture of me not wanting to support Salva but also just not really caring enough about the films on their own. (I did buy Rosewood Lane on Blu-Ray a year or two ago, but that was only because two actresses I love – Rose McGowen and Lin Shaye – were in it and was before I knew Salva directed it. Subsequently, I’ve only watched once or twice).
    The fact of the matter is, I can take or leave Salva’s films, personally, so it doesn’t really matter to me. However, if I found out one of my favorite filmmakers was guilty of the same crime, I’d have a harder time coping. If John Carpenter committed such a crime, would I really be able to stop watching Halloween several times a year or buying all of the never-ending re-releases of his movies on Blu-Ray? If I’m being honest, no way. And I know I’m not alone. The idea of not allowing the convicted to receive royalties (and maybe even allow some to go to the victim/the victim’s family!) seems like the best solution. No need to punish the other people who worked on the movie by not letting it get the attention it deserves or the fans of the movie not be able to enjoy it anymore. That would be a lose-lose situation.

  • Evan3

    I am an attorney. And I find what he did heinous. I will use my wallet accordingly to not buy the film (at least, not in a way that will give royalties to Salva – thanks to eBay, it’s so easy to get second-hand DVDs).

    But to say a person can’t make a living after they have served their crime is crazy. In fact, nothing drives one back to crime so fast as cutting them off from any viable path into society in perpetuity.

    Absolutely, we should never forget. And Salva should need to live with the stigma and (hopefully) grief over what he did. But he should be allowed to do that – live. So let him work in Hollywood, and yeah, celebrate some art if he ever makes something worthwhile again. But never forget the nature of the person.

    • Ocelot006 .

      For better or worse I agree. Look in twenty plus years the man hasn’t touched another kid as far as we know. He did his time(certainly as much as he deserved) but he still did his time. He got out and hasn’t done anything fucked up since. So let the man live. Am I a scumbag for thinking ‘oh god did bad thing. Guy did time. Guy hasn’t done bad thing since. Give him some peace’? If so fine, but fuck off. You want to look at people as forever evil to put your own self higher on the morality pedestal then go for it.

  • Corey Hutton

    Who gives a fuck, do you know him personally or the kid who changed their story constantly? No? Shut the fuck up and waste your time on something better.

    • wehoaks

      I bet you’re just a lovely human.

  • Rob

    The problem I have with all this is the “He did his time.” BS. He got a
    slap on the wrist and went right back to doing what he did before.
    Meanwhile, his victim is doing a life sentence and also gets the
    delightful slap in the face that his tormentor isn’t just free, but free
    to return to his life and career. Victor Silva is a disgusting piece
    of human trash who surrendered any of societies consideration for his
    own rights when he forcibly TOOK SOMEONE ELSE’S AWAY! His films all
    have traces of his sickness in them and he doesn’t deserve to make a
    dime on any of it.

    Rape is one of the most horrible crimes a
    human being can commit and this bunch of internet trolls are making
    light of it. Anyone who says “If you don’t know him or the kid, who
    gives a fuck?”, You’re part of the problem. Let that piece of shit film
    in your neighborhood around your kids, let him pull this shit on YOUR
    kid or family member and then look them in the eye. Fuck him, fuck his
    “right”, and FUCK YOU.

  • wrestling fan 36

    Well the justice system failed here as Victor should still be in jail but he did the time given to him so yes indeed he did his time. As for JC3 I have been waiting for that sequel forever and would like to see it no matter if Salva is attached to it or not, I am creeper fan and want to see the creeper do his thing. Lastly I do not have a problem with shout factory doing what they are doing but Salva should (if he gets royalties) donate those checks to abused children or just straight forfit his rights to them.

  • ultrazilla2000

    I highly enjoy both of the Creepers films, and have no problem buying them. People are free to do as they wish in regards to purchasing them, but abstaining due to the actions of one person is insulting to the large amount of other people who were involved in its filming. What he did was disgusting, but why ignore or demonize all the amazing talent from everyone else involved? To each their own I suppose.

    • wehoaks

      Who is demonizing everyone else? People choose not to watch certain films for a variety of reasons. I think because the director is a sick fuck is one pretty decent reason.

    • RidleyScott

      The lighting guy could give a fuck if you watch his best lighting work in Jeepers Creepers Part Three. He just wants to get paid so he can buy some beer on the way home.

  • shawn lawson

    Salva is a fucking pig. That being said….i love the first Jeepers. The second one was shit. I will give the third a shot even if Salva is involved. Honestly, i grew up with Clownhouse and think its a great flick. Now matter how fucked it was behind the scenes i would still scoop it on blu or dvd. I love animals. It doesnt stop me from owning Faces of Death, Cannibal Holocaust or Seed. Know that may be off topic just making a point. Supporting films made by sickos like Salva doesnt make you a bad person. Just dont shake his hand and buy his autograph at a horror convention lol.

  • The Heatmiser

    Don’t forget about Jeffrey Jones who was in Ferris Bueller and Beetlejuice. He did something very similar. Jones has also worked steadily in Hollywood since that incident.

  • Jarred Harper

    Salva did the time for his crime, and I hope mentally he still is suffering.

    That being said, criminals are still citizens unfortunately, and they have a right to live a normal life after serving time. The stigma he holds will never be gone, and what he did will never be forgotten. I don’t like Salva. I like HORROR and I like Jeepers Creepers.

  • Jarred Harper

    Also, where are people getting that I support Salva or his actions? WTF? I clearly said I do NOT… so because I like the Jeepers Creepers movies, I MUST support Salva molesting children?

    Whoever makes idiotic assumptions like that, go READ my comments.

    • wehoaks

      Get over people’s comments bro!

      • Jarred Harper

        Lol I’m not mad or anything. It’s just a debate, so…

  • John Connor

    It’s fucking insane how people could hate someone for a sexual preference (whether that’s animals, kids, or inanimate objects). It’s when that person actually involves another living being is when it crosses the line. It’s one incident we know of with a (then) 12 year old. Salva says it was consensual. Was the 12 year old already gay and willing? Was he coerced? Against his will? There’s a HUGE difference between consensual and rape. I know people are like, “IT’S A 12 YEAR OLD!!!” Yea, and that’s fucked up of Salva to give in to his urges and involve a young person like that. But I don’t have a lot of hate or fucks to give about a sexual act that’s not rape. Wrongfully coerced, probably. Wrong, yes. How wrong? Not enough to lock someone up for life or to wish the worst for them or deny them basic human rights.

    Here’s all that needs to happen: Keep him away from kids. That’s it. It’s like a restraining order. He can never be along with a kid. Bam! End of discussion. Otherwise, let him live his life. Damn. He didn’t kill anyone. He didn’t physically hurt anyone. He likely sexually traumatized a boy, but I can guarantee you that it wouldn’t be that bad if sex wasn’t deemed as so wrong and shameful in society. Get the boy some therapy and pay him more money than he could need for his life as compensation.

    And from what I’m hearing, the boy sounds a bit sketchy with the protesting of Salva’s movies. If you were supposedly traumatized by said event, why are you even wasting your time with this supposed abuser? Who cares if someone watches art this guy made? Just let it be known what he did to you so no other kids are potentially harmed and get on with your life.

    And yes, Hollywood (those in charge) should watch his every move around kids. That’s the punishment. But let the guy live and make art for fuck’s sake.

    I am personally a fan of his art. I love the Jeepers Creepers films. Let him make more, please. Heck, let him make a sequel starring a bunch of kids if he wants, just monitor every move he makes in the presence of such kids and never leave him along unmonitored with them. Simple. If a kid is around, monitor him the whole time with a police officer/enforcer of some kind.

    And to everyone, please get over your conditioned shame of sex.

    • alwayswipetwice

      How exactly do we make sure he doesn’t (and hasn’t – you know, because rapists are repeat offenders) raped another child?

      And rape wouldn’t be as big of a deal if we weren’t such a morally conservative society? Um… Do you watch the news? Rape ISN’T treated like a big deal. If it was, we wouldn’t be here having this conversation in the first place because he’d be in prison, where rapists belong. They’re sociopaths.

      How many times should a rapist rape before we deem them a threat to society? Twice? Five times? They premeditate their crimes. It’s not an accident. Especially in this case. We have to assume Clownhouse was designed purely as a vehicle to rape that boy. Why? Because that’s exactly what rapists do. They’re megalomaniacal, calculating, manipulative sociopaths. When you see one crying in court as the judge is about to read their sentencing, they’re crying for themselves – not for the victims.

      Can’t blame you for not knowing much about this type of criminal/crime and the devastation it has on the survivor, their family, friends, etc. (even if your overly speculative comment suggests that you do). So I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. But if you really want to have an informed opinion, you need to do some research before you start minimizing the crimes of rapists.

      • John Connor

        You’re really twisting my words around.

        • alwayswipetwice

          Then please set the record straight because clearly I’m not the only one who’s twisted your words.

          • John Connor

            All you are doing is pointing fingers and yelling, “RAPIST! PEDOPHILE! PUNISH AND KILL!!”

            All because you read an article.

            The mob you are a part of is no different than those that brutally tortured and killed people for no good reason (witchhunts).

          • alwayswipetwice

            I’ve never advocated the use of violence and never will – not even against rapists. Violence begets violence.

            As I’ve already stated below, revenge is not justice. It’s a fantasy only suited for the movies.

      • wehoaks

        John’s immediately runs to playing victim after you asked legit questions. He is basically the text book definition of a sociopath, and revealed it in only a few posts. I’d hate to see what could be revealed with many more.

      • John Connor

        You like to say ‘rape’ a lot, don’t you?

        Did Salva rape Nathan Winters?

        • wehoaks

          Yes, he did.

          • John Connor

            Details. What happened? Did you watch the video?

          • wehoaks

            A grown man shattered a child.

          • John Connor

            What happened?

          • wehoaks

            Go do some research you scary monster. I am not your fucking keeper.

            Please never live near a school.

      • John Connor

        Morally conservative society? You mean the one that has a church on every street corner with rapists in black gowns that sexually molest little boys?

        I’m saying it wouldn’t be so bad if the boy knew about all of this beforehand, if people talked about it openly, and what to do in situations. But society deems it shameful to talk about sex, so victims stay quiet and never speak up, letting it continue, because they’re so scared of mobbish people like you yelling and labeling them as sick and needing help.

        Who’s going to believe them? They are a part of the act and get off (forcefully or not), so if you are acting like this towards someone like me that is merely saying, “SPEAK THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT!”, imagine how people will treat them when they reveal that its being going on for a while. They’d be labeled sick and twisted for getting off on these sexual acts that were initially forced upon them but they were too scared by people like you pointing the finger and shaming them. So they grow up and keep these turmoil of feelings inside, suddenly finding themselves reliving these moments with them on the abusive end, perpetuating the cycle.

        But no, fuck me, right? How dare I speak up! I can’t believe I have to defend myself over these stupid and outrageous accusations to someone who’s avatar is of a little boy robot you can program to your desires with a name referencing anal.

        • alwayswipetwice

          If I understanding you correctly, you think that victims aren’t encouraged to voice themselves, which causes people to rape?

    • wehoaks

      Yeah, you need help.

      • Creepshow

        “Like… zoiks Scoob”!

    • RidleyScott

      Now THIS is spooky.

    • Mr. Screamer

      Get help.

    • Stu Corbett

      Your belief system is remarkably warped in so many ways, I literally wouldn’t know where to start. So I’ll sum this up. I believe you are genuinely, mentally unwell. I’m not saying this to insult you. But I used to work at a psychiatric hospital and have heard these rationalizations before. Please discuss your beliefs with a health-care professional.

      • alwayswipetwice

        Clearly a product of our wonderful society that seems to embrace those very ideals. It’s like watching the news.

      • John Connor

        Please elaborate or continue your witchhunt.

        • Stu Corbett

          I’m not sure who you think is being “witch hunted.” But I can elaborate on my initial reply to your post.
          To be blunt, I believe you’re sexually attracted to children. I’m not sure if it’s just girls or boys as well. I don’t know if you’ve acted on your impulses but (based on your statement) your capable of justifying the sexual abuse of young girls and boys. I realize you can’t change your “preference” but therapy might help you control it.

          • John Connor

            What in my post makes you think that?

          • Stu Corbett

            Literally, everything.

          • John Connor

            So because I don’t want to kill a man or imprison him for life after reading an article, you think I’m into children? No, you need help.

          • alwayswipetwice

            I honestly don’t think he’s a pedophile, but I’m positive he’s a teenager who’s embracing very sociopathic beliefs that stem from early adolescence. I think there’s enough giveaways in his comments to psychoanalyze him further, but I don’t feel right about doing it. The only thing we can do is encourage a healthy dialogue if he’s willing to engage in it with us.

          • Stu Corbett

            I totally agree and I commend you for attempting to rationally engage him. I just wish he would speak with a Doctor as he sounds capable of hurting a child. Many people with this psychopathy don’t necessarily act on it but they need to understand their own psychology. and learn how to avoid triggering any compulsion.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Agreed. It was just hard for me to walk away from someone who’s expressing such extreme viewpoints, especially because he felt backed into a corner by our collectivist “mob mentality” (he clearly doesn’t believe a group of independent thinkers can reach the same conclusion, or he thinks there’s a conspiracy against rapists).

          • wehoaks

            The fact that he doesn’t believe a group of independent thinkers can reach the same conclusion and borders on conspiracy is further proof he is a sociopath. You do you bub, I just suggest walking away from it.

          • alwayswipetwice

            I know. I’m done, buddy. This has been taxing, to say the least.

          • wehoaks

            You tried dude!

          • alwayswipetwice

            Thanks for the good company =)

          • wehoaks

            He’s clearly a sociopath. Look at the way he distorts your words and makes everything about him and being persecuted. And sometimes bub, you just have to walk away. You can’t engage healthily with a sociopath, especially one that identifies with the rapist.

          • alwayswipetwice

            I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn’t know enough about the topic and maybe a rational discourse could help him realize what he said isn’t what he meant. Based on his flawed sociological perspective and how he’s expressed himself with a victim complex, I definitely think he’s a teenager who’s only scratched the surface in thinking about social dynamics. I also think “At 12 I would have been willing to have sex with an older woman” is a pretty clear giveaway of his immaturity, as he clearly doesn’t understand the power dynamics that lead to cases of statutory rape. But I agree, if he doesn’t start questioning his own beliefs instead of everyone else’s, then he could easily end up hurting people and ruining lives – including his own.

          • wehoaks

            You’re a better person than me in that regard. I wouldn’t personally waste my time in a dialogue with someone like him. Also, it wasn’t statutory rape. Salva raped this kid.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Ah, just looked it up in detail. The way it’s defined it is just the long way of saying “rape”, it’s just specific to when a child is involved. I get the point you’re making though, which is “rape is never sex”.

          • wehoaks

            EDIT: Statutory rape can also imply consent was involved, as well (like say, in NY, when a 15 year old sleeps with their 18 year old partner – if prosecuted it would be for statutory rape). This kid didn’t consent. He was raped.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Yeah, you’re right. This guy is clearly looking to poke holes in our rationale, so that’s the kind of non-sense he’d try to use to his advantage. Good on the clarification.

          • wehoaks

            This dude is SCARY. I worry for anyone in association with him, especially children and animals.

      • wehoaks

        John is clearly a sociopath. Anyone that calls RAPE sex is dealing with some legit (and scary) issues of their own.

        • wehoaks

          Not to mention he immediately plays victim when confronted with any responses. Sign of a sociopath.

        • John Connor

          Was it rape?

          • alwayswipetwice

            What do you think rape is? I’m not trying to give you a hard time. I’m genuinely just trying to talk.

          • John Connor

            Forcing another to have sexual intercourse against their will or consent.

          • alwayswipetwice

            You’re right. But a child cannot give consent because a child hasn’t developed the mental capacity that an adult has.

          • John Connor

            So a child is not capable of lying or manipulating others to see them as a victim? I don’t know what really happened but you seem to be so sure.

          • alwayswipetwice

            You think it’s more likely that a child would make a false rape accusation than a sociopathic pedophile would actually rape a child? Where are the statistics or sociological research to back that up that theory?

          • John Connor

            Never said it’s more likely. You just like twisting words so you can force others to hate someone. Point and shout, “Get him!!”

            Please, continue your mob. It’s so much fun being hated for speaking up.

          • alwayswipetwice

            But why would you ask me that if you’re not trying to discredit the crime? Please explain your intent because I clearly don’t understand.

            I wasn’t, and still am not, trying to create any mob. People can think what they want. When I respond to your comment, it’s between me and you. I have no control over what people think or feel, but I’m flattered that you think I do.

          • Ash Housewares

            You creepy little man.I removed my posts that called you out because, as another person said, you’re the kind we will all read about in the news. I’m not saying anything you don’t know. You’re a freak. You grew up as a freak and you’ll always be a little freak. I bet no one let’s you around their kids? Do they Freak? I bet you can’t hold a job, can you Freak? I bet you always find the time to be where little kids are, don’t you Freak?

          • John Connor

            I’m baffled by your war against me. What part of my statements did you take offense to? Was it about not allowing this sort of thing to happen through awareness?

          • alwayswipetwice

            Yes. Statutory rape.

          • John Connor

            Tell me what happened.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Salva, an adult, coerced an 8-year-old boy into performing sexual acts over the course of four years. By definition, he committed statutory rape.

          • John Connor

            According to what? What evidence/documentation did Salva do these things?

          • alwayswipetwice

            The trial, which wasn’t kept a secret.

          • John Connor

            So if you’re going by what you read and the trial and the people that punished Salva for the alleged crime, then you’ll also accept the punishment served for that alleged crime.

            So, what’s the problem here?

            Why is my dialogue about speaking up about sexual abuse and keeping an eye on Salva in the presence of children and it being made known what he’s sexually into a problem for you?

            How the fuck does any of this equate to your outrageously vindictive and accusing comments about me? How does any of this equate to me being sexually interested in certain things or “sociopathic”? I want to help people and you want to join witchhunts punishing people for things you have no knowledge/evidence of (you never saw the evidence in Salva’s case). How am I the bad guy? Why is your kind so angry towards me?

          • alwayswipetwice

            I never called you a pedophile or a sociopath. Rapists are sociopaths.

            Do you think all accusations of rape are unfounded fabrications? I only ask because of all the questions you’re raising about the validity of this case.

          • John Connor

            Do you question nothing or do you just join the mob in labeling others, hoping to get some sort of punishment for a supposed crime you have no idea about?

          • alwayswipetwice

            Why are you so intent on proving Salva’s innocence?

          • John Connor

            Why are you so intent on punishing someone for something you have no real knowledge/evidence of?

            And I never tried to prove innocence or guilt. Pay attention. I’m questioning why you and your mob friends are so angry about someone speaking up about the problems of society. Stop demonizing others on your hate bandwagon.

          • alwayswipetwice

            You said in your original comment that “he didn’t kill anyone”. Regardless if Salva is guilty or innocent – why mention that if not only to minimize the crime of rape.

          • John Connor

            Because people are calling for Salva’s head and for him to be imprisoned for life with no basic rights of expression. And those people merely read a few things, and they want death and/or the taking away of a life.

            Please explain why you are defending the mob that labels me a pedophile and sociopath.

          • alwayswipetwice

            First, I’m going to set this straight: I defended you by saying I do not think you are a pedophile. I also never called you a sociopath anywhere in these comments. But some of the ideas you express here have a sociopathic sentiment because the explanation you gave creates an excuse for rapists to rape. People are always responsible for their actions regardless of what their childhood was like and regardless of society’s problems. No one makes anyone rape. Period. Sociopaths are the only ones that don’t take responsibility for their actions. That’s what makes them sociopaths.

            Second, I never said anyone should be murdered and never will. Like I’ve also said in the comments: I do not advocate violence. I believe rapists and sociopaths need to be removed from society because they cannot be trusted. They manipulate everyone they know in order to take advantage of situations. You already agreed that truth and honesty should reign supreme, so I don’t understand where we don’t agree on this.

          • John Connor

            I never advocated rape. That’s fucked up of you.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Where did I accuse you of advocating rape?

          • John Connor

            “I never called you a pedophile or a sociopath. Rapists are sociopaths.” – alwayswipetwice

            Your comment earlier:

            “I’m positive he’s a teenager who’s embracing very sociopathic beliefs that stem from early adolescence. I think there’s enough giveaways in his comments to psychoanalyze him further” – alwayswipetwice

            Really?

          • alwayswipetwice

            Again, I never called you a pedophile or a sociopath. You cannot equate saying something that carries a sociopathic sentiment with actually being a sociopathic rapist. There is a lot of nuance between the two. If I really thought you were a sociopath, I would have just said “he’s a sociopath”. Nuance.

            Unrelated example: Being a Christian and saying something has a Christian sentiment. The two imply very different things.

          • John Connor

            So, “statutory”, meaning ‘by law’. So its all about the law. We don’t know what happened, so we are relying on the people of the law to tell us and according to them, Salva served his time and everything’s A-OK.

            So I don’t give a shit about law because its morally corrupt and evil. People that do care about the law (those with the guns make the rules) are then fine with what happened because the crime has been served with punishment and the balance restored in your demented lawful universe.

          • alwayswipetwice

            I don’t know why they decided to call it “statutory rape”, but you’re arguing semantics.

            Why do you think there should be no law?

          • John Connor

            Law is made by whoever’s in power. So rapists would make the law because they have the power.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Laws exist to protect the innocent. They should be based on a moral foundation that is a standard for how we are to behave in society.

          • John Connor

            Laws exist to protect those that make the laws. That’s it. They prey upon natural morality by pretending they created morality and then warping it to fit their needs and theirs alone. I don’t need or use law to tell me how to behave or act. I am capable of thought on my own. I know what’s moral and right, not because I’m forced to by those deeming themselves as all knowing executioners/punishers. Fines and jail-time will fix nothing. Truth and honesty would do wonders for our society.

            But according to the mob here, I should shut my fucking mouth.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Firstly, I never told you to “shut your fucking mouth” or any variation that you keep insinuating. I’m the one that encouraged this dialogue we’re having in the first place. So please calm down. I’m not vilifying you as a sociopath, like you also said.

            How do laws protect the lawmakers and not us? I agree that not all laws are based on moral foundation. Anti-drug laws are morally unfounded because there is nothing inherently dangerous to others about using or possessing a drug. But that one example doesn’t negate the law that outlaws murder.

          • wehoaks

            Yes.

          • John Connor

            Were you there?

          • wehoaks

            He was raped.

          • wehoaks

            Were you fucking there to see that it didn’t actually happen?

            You scary fool.

          • John Connor

            I’d have to be before killing or imprisoning someone for life or to shout for their head or to label someone as a pedophile or rapist. Not you though. You don’t require evidence, just a hearsay article. And you’re calling me a sociopath. What a hypocrite you are.

          • wehoaks

            It’s cute that this is the only thing you think I’ve read or know on the case. ta ta Monster man.

      • wehoaks

        Not to mention he immediately plays victim when confronted with any responses. Sign of a sociopath

      • John Connor

        So why would you go into psychiatric hospitals and policing? You like drugging people, bullying them, raping them, having power over them? Analyzing your posts, I’d say you are a sociopath that doesn’t like someone like me who is trying to stop people like you from hurting others.

        • wehoaks

          I get this strange feeling we are gonna hear about you being a “lone wolf” that shoots up a public place.

          • Mr. Screamer

            I got shivers just from reading that.

          • wehoaks

            Creeptastic.

          • Stu Corbett

            Yeah, something is very, very wrong with this guy.

          • wehoaks

            Icky icky being.

        • Stu Corbett

          John, have you ever been intimate with a child? You’re anonymous here, so it’s okay to speak freely.

        • Ash Housewares

          You’re such a broken and twisted little man.

    • Khy

      Just shut up. Please. Just shut the fuck up.

      • John Connor

        That’s what a rapist tells their victim.

        • Mr. Screamer

          You seriously need to shut up. This isn’t funny.

          • John Connor

            Again, rapist mentality. You want everyone to keep their mouth shut and scare them into never speaking up about what’s going on.

        • Stu Corbett

          That’s a twisted thing to say. I’m not sure if you think that’s clever, funny or god knows what. The vast majority of people here, whatever their view is, are doing it civilly. In fact, more civilly than people who post on a news site. You’ve demonstrated that you don’t deserve the same credit. Do yourself and society a favor. Print off all your comments and take them to a Doctor. And for God’s sake’s, don’t go anywhere near children.

    • Rass

      John is obviously a pedophile. Pay him no mind.

  • Khy

    I was avoiding tossing my two cents into this topic mainly because its a topic that sparks a lot of strong and fiery debates(which it should). But since “some” are behaving quite civil then I’ll throw my hat in the ring too. So where do I stand with Salva and Jeepers 3?

    Honestly, I’m unsure. I am entirely unsure. I loved the first two films and still to this day enjoy them- one must remember I saw those films and loved them YEARS before I found out about Victor being a perverted shitbag so it wasn’t as easy (for me) to say “He’s a pig, I’m never watching these movies ever again” and throw them in the nearest trash can. I applaud anyone else who was able to do that, but it was difficult to me since both films played a huge role in my love for horror(though not to the extreme of Friday The 13th, Halloween, Nightmare, Scream ect thank God).

    I think Victor Salva is sick, twisted, and shouldn’t do any future work. I’m upset he’s involved with Jeepers 3- I wish they could have gotten another director with great style to take his place. There’s millions of potential directors out there that could come and provide a great take on a third entry other than Salva(in my opinion). I think what Victor did is UNFORGIVABE and I have never and WILL never watch “Clownhouse” because of that. I don’t want to get too personal (on BD of all places) but I’m a survivor of sexual molestation myself and I wouldn’t wish the trauma on my worse enemy- Victor can never undo the damage he did to that kid. He didn’t do his time. You can never do enough for derailing a child’s innocence . I support everyone who does not support Victor or Jeepers 3. I have not one negative thing to say about those who wish not to support him in any way.

    Separating the art and the artist isn’t my problem- it’s not knowing rather to view that art or turn away from it.

    • Mr. Screamer

      I’m very sorry about what happened to you.
      I totally agree with your point.

      • Khy

        Thanks Screamer!

    • Creepshow

      Thanks for sharing, and thanks for your bravery Khy!

      • Khy

        Thanks Creepshow! Means a lot!

    • alwayswipetwice

      I’m not a survivor myself, but someone I love is a rape survivor, so I witnessed the devastation and felt the emotional impact in my own ways, which has been rough, to say the least. It’s never an easy road, but I know that being able to open up like you have takes a ton of courage and is a vital part of taking control of your life. I feel safe saying you’re in good company with the overwhelming majority of us. Sending much love and respect your way, brother/sister. You’re never alone.

      • Khy

        Much appreciation for this beautiful message! All the support makes me feel stronger!

    • wehoaks

      You’re brave for sharing friend. And a strong example of what it is to be a survivor. Much love via this site to you Khy.

      • Khy

        Thanks Wehoaks, your words means so much to me.

    • Stu Corbett

      Thank-you for sharing this. All the best, to you.

  • Ford W. Maverick

    Salva should be in prison. End of story. If people want to put his work on physical media and sell it, that’s fine, but I won’t buy it. I won’t support him at all. For the record, I also apply that philosophy to anyone that rapes children INCLUDING Polanski. I have only seen one Polanski film, The Ninth Gate, and I only saw it because I didn’t realize it was a Polanski movie. Any actor or artist convicted of child rape is marked off my list permanently.

    • Ford W. Maverick

      Even if Jeepers Creepers 3 has Salva removed from writing and directing the new film, I still can’t see it because he’ll still get money from it because he created the series.

  • bugman

    thank you for opening up the conversation about this subject, and thank you especially for providing some context to salva’s life. of course his childhood experiences as a victim shaped him into the predator he would become. while it of course in no way excuses his actions, it makes clear the cycle of damage that was inflicted on him and that he went on to inflict. ultimately, he’s a free person and has a right to create art; folks are perfectly able to consume his work if they choose. i can’t. i agree that 15 months in prison is not appropriate or acceptable for his crime (not that prison is a perfect solution), and i won’t be partaking in his art. i don’t watch roman polanski movies anymore, either. i’m sure he was very upset about the tragedy that befell sharon tate, but the fact that he turned around and was a monster himself, really disrespects his late wife’s murder. free to work in other countries, but no longer for me. i do disagree that all crimes should be held against artists equally, however. sexual assault and child molestation fall into a very dark category, one that, for me, is completely different than property theft or drug or alcohol abuse. i could care less about the latter, but the former is unspeakably vile. anyway, i appreciate what a challenging topic this is, so discussion is really important. thank you.

  • tvma1980

    It wouldn’t be an issue if his films weren’t full of creepy lines that stand out like a sore thumb once you know they were written by a child molester.

  • I love the Jeepers Creepers films. The original was one of the scariest films I’d seen on the big screen up to the point of its release. As I young gay teen I also respected the sequel for daring to feature a possibly gay lead character which was rare especially for horror at the time. I honestly can’t wait for part 3. That said, I completely agree that what Salva did was reprehensible and can never be forgiven.

    What’s interesting to me is the argument of separating an artist from their art, and I don’t believe it’s possible in the case of Jeepers Creepers. I think most of us can agree that the Creeper in a lot of ways is representative of Salva himself due to the oddly sexual undertones to the Creeper’s actions.

    However, i don’t read the films as Salva attempting to portray his sexual fantasies on screen via genre tropes. The Creeper is an ULTIMATE movie monster. The creature is vile, shows no mercy, and isn’t At all human. The Creeper is no Frankenstein’s monster. We aren’t meant to sympathize with him in the least bit.

    I’ve always loved the horror genre for it’s ability to help us face the darkest parts of ourselves. It’s not pretty. It’s scary, and a lot of horror directors use their craft as a means of therapy. Perhaps that is exactly what Salva has done with his creation. He’s presenting us with the realization that no one is more aware of what a monster Salva is than Salva himself.

    Again, this is NO WAY excuses his actions, and I certainly don’t know the man himself or know if he is truly “reformed”. I do believe people can change and regret what they’ve done in their lives. With that, I am no one to judge someone who has already been convicted and served time (the amount of time served is certainly another can of worms). This is only my own valid opinion amongst an array of other incredibly valid opinions.

  • gabriel

    I wasn’t a fan of him before, but now I am for sure.

  • tbaio

    That’s Hollywood. In fact, that’s America. We love celebrities & want to see them regardless of what they’ve done. Celebrities always get either a slap on the wrist or multiple chances. And I mean all celebrities….movie, television,sports, radio & political celebrities. If there is a chance a celebrity will make a studio (or whatever entity) some money, they will be hired & accommodated for. Is it right? Not at all. Will it continue? Definitely. Get used to it if you’re not already so.

    • alwayswipetwice

      The only thing worse than hatred is indifference.

      • tbaio

        And worse than that is……….the truth. Choosing to not face it is just as bad.

        • wehoaks

          But telling people to “get used to it” isn’t really facing it though. It is, in fact, indifference.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Nailed it. “Choosing not to face it” = indifference.

          • tbaio

            So? I’ll pose the same question to you that I gave to wehoaks: what are you doing to make the situation better? I’m assuming not much. How many times have you seen Jeepers Creepers? Are you going to see the part 3 if it ever comes out? If so, isn’t that indifference??

          • wehoaks

            Just because you choose to sit on the sidelines doesn’t mean everyone does. Why not strive to make change?

          • tbaio

            That was my question to you. You talk about me being indifferent; fine. What are you doing? What strives are you making? Again, I’ll answer: you’re doing about as much as I am.

          • wehoaks

            You’ve gotta stop assuming dude.

          • tbaio

            Whatever efforts you are doing are not putting a stop to celebrities getting preferential treatment; that is a fact. No assumptions now.

          • wehoaks

            So actually getting off my ass and trying to make a difference, even if minuscule, is looked down on. Got it.

            Foolish me, I should be more like you and just sit on my ass and arm chair quarterback everyone else’s life. “i exercised today. Did twenty shrugs!”

          • tbaio

            You’ve replied to every one of my comments. It looks like you’re on your ass as much as me, sport. You keep up the good work! Well done.

          • wehoaks

            I’d tell you to go fuck yourself but that would be meaningless as it would require your lazy ass to turn your balloon knot away from the couch cushion.

          • tbaio

            Dude, indifference or not, this action of letting celebrities slide is the way it is. Period. You’re saying my attitude is making it worse. Ok, fine. What are you doing to making it stop? Just as much as me I assume.

          • wehoaks

            I actively do volunteer work with organizations, one of which is with survivors of this kind of depravity. Thanks for asking.

          • tbaio

            If you’re being honest, great. Do you support Salva’s movies? If so, that’s kind of an oxymoron, no? Again, not that it matters, dude.

          • wehoaks

            I am being honest and no I do not support Salva’s films.

          • tbaio

            So you have not seen the Jeepers Creepers movies or any other of his movies? You just decided to enter this forum out of chance? Ok.

          • wehoaks

            I saw the first two before I knew of his past. I have not seen any other films and will never see another film of his as I decided long ago, when I learned of his depravity, that I would never consume his “art” again.

            It’s amazing to me that you’ll spend this much effort trying to discredit someone, shrug off indifference, and question there wants and actions in trying to make a difference but won’t get off your pancake ass and actually do something yourself.

          • tbaio

            So you have made a difference? Like what? You show me statistics of your efforts that effected celebrities getting preferential treatment. I didn’t post my comment to make a difference; I posted it to make a statement.

          • wehoaks

            Only on BD will someone try to paint another as an asshole for doing volunteer work.

          • tbaio

            Why don’t we stick to the subject: Victor Salva. My point is that Hollywood does not care what a person has done as long as they either are marketable or can produce marketable results. If they fall into that category, they will be given preferential treatment & will always find work. What’s your stance on that (besides feeling that the point is indifferent)??

          • wehoaks

            Why don’t you lick my sack to hole canal? You had your chance to engage in a civil manner but chose not to. Ta ta.

          • tbaio

            What would the people who you supposedly help out during your supposed volunteer work think about what you invited me to do?

          • wehoaks

            Yawn like I just did.

          • tbaio

            “Lick my sack to hole canal.” That’s something Salva would say. For a guy who supposedly doesn’t support Victor Salva, you sure are behaving like him.

          • wehoaks

            Nah.

  • RBeast

    I agree with those that have complimented all on how well most have approached this topic. I will say that I really enjoy the JC movies. The subtext is definitely there though in all of his movies and I have been aware of the backstory since JC 1 hit dvd. After going back and re watching some his other films, you can definitely see the monster behind them. Salva was really given a TON of leeway in powder with nudity etc. At this point, I just don’t get how companies can keep financing this guy. I mean I can watch a movie and separate it from Salva easily when he is just a credit at the end, but if I had to talk with the guy, work with the guy and develop any kind of relationship personal or business I would feel uncomfortable, and I’m surprised others do not. This topic is so much bigger than just Salva. I recently read Corey Feldman’s biography and though he is a little crazy, I believe there to be quite a bit of truth beneath even some possible over dramatic embellishments in his book. After hearing about what happened to Corey Haim, and Feldman as well, Corey went on record and said that the biggest problem in Hollywood is pedophilia. I’m not in Hollywood and can’t be sure, but it sounds to me to be more than possible and may be way bigger of a problem then whether or not to watch a Salva film.

    • Darnell

      I am unfamiliar with what happen to Corey? I remember him accusing Michael Jackson of some screwed up behavior. Was it more than that?

      • RBeast

        Both Haim and Feldman were molested by people involved in Hollywood film production of some sort. Corey hides the names for fear of a lawsuit I think, but he writes in detail about it. it was at least a couple of industry people from management to others in production it sounds like, some think that fellow actors could be involved. Haim’s apparently happened on the set of Lucas. After doing some research myself it seems there is scandal of the same type with casting directors of the original X-men movie. Really shady stuff.

      • RBeast

        By the way… there is a documentary out there floating around right now, though it hasn’t been officially released. It is called “an open secret” and it is about pedophilia in Hollywood from acting coaches to directors, etc. Unfortunately the Victor Salva’s are not that uncommon in the industry. Heartbreaking.

  • Werewolf

    The films are benign. They should not be pulled simply over the actions of one evil director. I mean, people still drive Volkswagen Beetles knowing where the idea for them came from and their brand suffers very little stigma.

    I hate child molesters, BTW. Like these films, though.

  • Darnell

    I like the Jeepers Creepers films. I own the double movie blue ray. I personally feel the guy should be in jail even now. However he went to jail and he served his time. As long as he doesn’t harm anyone else I don’t care what he does. He can continue to make movies and if it’s good I will go see it and if it’s bad I will pass.

    I mean he still has to work? The idea that someone shouldn’t be allowed to work and take care of themselves after committing a crime is insane. This issue is far bigger than the scope of what can be dealt with in this article.

    As a survivor of child abuse by a male family member when I was a kid I can tell you that you never get over it. It’s a scar that never goes away, and it has far reaching impact on your life forever.

    I personally feel child molesters should never get out. They should be locked away forever because taking innocence away from a child is something you can never come back from. There is no apology that can make things right. At nearly 39 years old I still deal with the impact of what happened to me.

    I guess the overall point is should someone be able to earn a living after committing a horrible crime. I think the answer is yes, if we are going to free them from prison. So I am OK with him continuing to make movies even if I think he is a horrible person.

    • wehoaks

      To me the real question is: Should someone be able to continue working in the field they used to commit the crime. Salva used his set to perpetrate the heinous acts upon this child, an actor working on his film at the time. We don’t let teachers who commit similar crimes back in the classroom, should we allow a director back on set when he committed his crimes on a set?

      • Darnell

        That’s a very good point and one I didn’t think of. I would say he shouldn’t be allowed to be around any children or any movies dealing with children at the very least.

        I am so torn on this subject being a survivor of abuse myself. I just think they should never be allowed out. Locked away like the animals they are forever.

  • Jarred Harper

    Hey wehoaks. You ASSUME everybody who wants a sequel supports Salva’s crimes. Clearly you cannot read or understand context. Calling people child molestors and making stupid accusations that have already been proven wrong (if you would READ what I post) is disgusting. And the fact you just do it for attention on a message board where you hsve ZERO CREDIBILITY makes you pathetic.

    • wehoaks

      Yeah, you are bitter.

      Like get the fuck over it brah!

      • Jarred Harper

        Debating doesn’t equal bitter. But whatever makes you feel better! Oh and I’m not your ‘brah’, whatever the hell that is.

        That belongs to Ridleyscott.

        • wehoaks

          Is this you being bitter one last time before saying to move on?

        • Stu Corbett

          Jarred. I just wrote a post giving respect to you guys for deciding, in the end, to be civil to each other, though disagreeing. Now I had to delete it. Come’ on man!

          • wehoaks

            To be fair to him he did say to move on after the ridleyscott post. They just are stacked odd here.

          • Jarred Harper

            I don’t really care that you had to delete your post or if you think I am being uncivil. Doesn’t change my life in the slightest. Kinda how Jeepers Creepers being released on Blu ray doesn’t change any of you all’s life either if you choose not to obtain one.

            And yes, I did say to move on and even was joking with wehoaks in the end. I have zero hard feelings towards anybody here, as opinions and debate are what spin the world.

      • Jarred Harper

        What’s funny is we mostly agree with each other. I hate Salva too and think he is heinous. We just happen to have different opinions on wanting the movies released.

        Let’s move on.

        • wehoaks

          Hugs brah, lets hug.

          • Jarred Harper

            *hugs*

            Braaaaahh ..

          • wehoaks

            Braaaaaah, I am fucking with you by saying that.

            But true hugs to you.

          • Stu Corbett

            Props to both of you for settling a difference. It’s ironic that when I read posts on a news site, once things “go bad,” they just get worse. Leave up to a bunch of horror film fans to decide to disagree but decide to be civil to each other about it. Cheers, Guys!

  • Merx

    Dude, give this shit a rest! How many articles do people have to read with this crap being brought up time and time again? Everybody knows what and who he is.

    • People don’t “have” to read it. And not everybody knows. I’ve read many comments saying that they never knew until recently.

      • wehoaks

        Keep at it Trace.

      • Merx

        I am not defending him by any means because like most people, I hate pedophiles and anybody remotely close to one but this topic should not be brought up every time his name is mentioned. Just because somebody did/is something, that shouldnt change how people view his/her work and dirt needs to be left under the rug.

    • Darnell

      i honestly didn’t know until the previous article that was posted here a few months back. Before then I had no idea.

  • Romero Garcia

    This doesn’t bother me at all. So, he’s a convicted child molester. I don’t really care. He directed Jeepers Creepers 1 and 2. Those were pretty cool, and I liked them. Does one really have to branch out and affect the other? Everyone calls people like him monsters, but he’s just a man who is a victim of the current morals of the world. As a nihilist, I don’t believe in good or evil because ultimately the definitions change. A crime is only a crime because everyone agrees it is. Not so long ago, as an example, slavery was the normal operation of everyday life in many civilizations. I’m not condoning the man but nor am I condemning him.

    • wehoaks

      He committed the depraved acts via a set. Therefore his “art” and his crimes are directly related.

    • wehoaks

      You could live in a world where rape and molestation are considered fine. Thankfully most of us can’t.

      • Darnell

        I think his point is we lived in a world not long ago where both were considered fine and rarely if ever was their punishment. I mean it’s only been about 50 years where raping your wife is a crime. Don’t get me wrong I don’t agree with his view point but I understand it.

        In the late 1800’s and as early as the late 1940s grown men marrying girls as young as 13 was happening all over the south.

        • wehoaks

          I get what you’re saying. Surely do. Thankfully that way is no longer considered civilized. And, dude, he said Salva is a victim. Romero Garcia can call himself a nihilist all he wants. At the end of the day he’s just a true fucking asshole

          • Darnell

            yeah that i don’t agree with. Salva is a disgusting loser, and should still be getting raped in the prison showers if there were any justice in this world. The real crime is that he was able to get out after so little time while I am sure the child he molested is still tormented by what happened as a adult…

            I know from personal experience and the person that victimized me never went to jail.

          • wehoaks

            Sorry you went through that man. I hope you have an outlet with a therapist, a friend, anyone.

            What people seem to forget, A LOT, is that survivors like yourself are dealing with this your entire life. The act itself may be over, but the crime in a way lasts a lifetime. Stay strong dude!

          • Darnell

            It’s not to bad now but in my 20s it was pretty rough. I have great people in my life now and I have finally put it all behind me. I don’t think people realize how badly childhood trauma impacts you as an adult in just about every relationship.

            After the read the article a few months ago about Salva, I watched Jeepers Creepers again a few weeks later. It’s so creepy now to see how he really put himself into his work. There are so many things I see in his incarnation of the Creeper that parallels his own situation. Things I didn’t notice before knowing about his crimes.

          • wehoaks

            I am glad you were able to confront it and help yourself get better.

            Yeah his films, yikes. I can’t even stomach the thought of watching them.

          • alwayswipetwice

            Glad to hear you have supportive people in your life. Don’t ever feel alone though. There’s a lot of people and resources out there who dedicate their lives to making yours better. Much love and support to you, brother!

    • wehoaks

      If someone shot you in the face you’d want them to just walk away and all move on from it without repercussions then right?

      • Romero Garcia

        I don’t think you understand the philosophy I tried to explain.

        • wehoaks

          Hey it’s only a crime because people say it is right?

          • Creepshow

            Romero Garcia- an incoherent rambler, and supporter of molesters and pirates.

          • wehoaks

            Double whammy!

          • Creepshow

            He thought we’d forget. NEVER!

          • wehoaks

            He gives true nihilists a bad name. He’s probably some young fuck who never thinks beyond “MEEEEEEEEEE!”

        • Creepshow

          Philosophy PHILOSOPHY?? Bahahaha…..Oh, ok Socrates!

          • wehoaks

            “If it feels good do it!” – Romero Garcia

        • alwayswipetwice

          We do understand it. That’s why we take issue with your justification.

    • alwayswipetwice

      “…he’s just a man who is a victim…”

      I think this sums up your sociopathic sentiment that is clearly devoid of any moral foundation.

    • Peter Kushing

      You sound like the same kinda creep he is.

    • Jarred Harper

      I understand your attempt at “philosophy”, but really? Salva a victim? No, sir… take several seats.

      Who Salva molested and violated is the victim. It is a sick thing to do, even if it were somehow not a crime.

      You may think it’s no big deal, but hey! Maybe Salva can make a movie with YOUR kids someday!

  • Daniel Knight

    Lets just be honest here. If the man has done his time, served his sentance and has (within the eyes of the Law) paid for his crime. Then this should not be an issue. I am sick to the stomach about the crime itself, but he’s done the crime, done the time and probably wants to move on with his life. It’s not like Polanski where there’s still an issue of him recieving any punishment.

  • KOH219 _____

    I think the real issue here is the lack of severity concerning his punishment. Look, you’re talking to Horror fans who like seeing bad guys punished, severely. Of course you’re gonna get more backlash and protest from our genre fans.

    For me, my beef is with the justice system, and not Salva. And if more people focused this energy towards the justice system, I think it would be better served. Also, let’s not forget about all the other people involved in the films, should they suffer, too?

    If you liked the movies, enjoy ’em. If you’re pissed this guy is out, protest then people who let him out. He’s obviously sick.

  • Peter Kushing

    This dude is the real creeper. I know its a paycheck, but how can any cast or crew members stomach working with this swine?

  • Rahkarne

    “You can’t condemn one person over the other just because you believe one crime is worse. A crime is a crime.”

    I have to disagree on this point. You can’t lump rape and let’s say shoplifting together. Just my opinion.

  • Jeff Eastman

    the fact is hollywood is overrun with pedaphiles. think not, got ask corey feldman or hell just read his book, for gods sake.
    there is another big director, that has a really big marvel franchise. first name bryan. ring a bell. the list is way too large to post, unfortunately. all these people are sick as hell, and dont deserve to be out in the public.

  • jamie madrox

    God Damm thanks bloody-disgusting a pedophile I don’t give a fuck if he did time or paid his price , now next time I see him imma beat the fucking shit out of him , real simple hes gross , thank god were gonna do the border wall, I rest my case

  • Sykes

    Salva is a creep and he did some terrible things. But he also served his time.

    So should anyone who is ever let out of prison be denied work until they die starving in the street?

  • michaeldal65

    I guess the question is, does he now have his perversion under some kind of control? Has his victim, now an adult, come to terms (unlike many other molested minors)? Is he destined to be a repeat offender? While the desire rarely, if ever, leaves them, many come to terms with how harmful and far-reaching their actions can be and therefore close themselves off from possible recurrences and remain in intensive therapy… Just thoughts people, not words of support.

    I do wish he wasn’t sort of leering in that mugshot though.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    Jeepers Creepers had me until they showed the Creeper up close. It became a cartoon to me at that moment and killed the legitimate tension and uneasiness I was feeling for the characters. As far as the director, I didn’t know about his conviction until years later. Agreed he didn’t serve enough time, but they rarely ever do. Ironic one of the most frowned upon crimes in our country usually brings about the most disappointing punishment in our justice system.

  • aNYagenda

    Has he paid restitution to his victim?
    Thats should be the first thing first before he see’s any profits.
    But then the court system isn’t always fair if it doesn’t fit their agenda.
    The poor kid might have got a couple hundred thousand when it should probably have been a couple million at least.

    Interestingly (in a gross way) speaking of agendas, Bryan Singer has also been accused of something similar to Salva, although not convicted. But the media seems way more hell bent on slamming Bill Cosby without evidence while Brian Singer’s potential indiscretions against underage young men barely get a mention as he continues to be a famous and hollywood supported blockbuster director.

  • Bill Semi Liar

    I appalud you boldness and your insightful critical analysis in these times. I too am interested in the third movie; But fine if it gets made and fine if it doesn’t. Altough I can’t judge him as an artist completely (I´ve only seen JC1 and JC2 and I’m not sure if a movie about evil clowns I watched once in cable was Clownhouse), he is someone who should still be in jail. The article is excellent regarding the hypocrisy and selectiveness or the appropiate moment for the scandal: when they are about to release their commercially succesful movie (it reminds of the case whit Singer recently). I watched them when i was 17 and is a good memory but I also didn’t know about his felonies. I hope he makes the last one, but if not; he should let someone else (like those who did The Witch or It follows) do it and retire out of shame. It’s the same to me.

  • dgrayson007

    I am a huge fan of the franchise but not Salva. It sucks that he won’t sell the franchise to someone else so the story can be finished.

  • NightsKing

    I never knew this… but doesnt it add a creep factor to the creeper? and wouldnt it be poetry and great to see trish kill off the character? end the series and dont give that dude a dime. cause while I hate that this dude is involved in these films Ive always liked the character ofthe creeper. sucks the fans have to pay for this dudes bs. cantit be like other films and have someone new working onit and this guy doesnt get a dime?

    that would be the way to go. I dont pay for movies any how(benefits of being a projectionist) so wouldnt make a differnce to me. but to those who have been abused and see the creeper as some twisted motaphor for that guys evil deserve justice. maybe dedicate the profits to a charity and end it there.

  • megan williams

    The first time I watched the Jeepers Creepers was last year as a blind watch (was recommended it by a friend), and loved it. It’s now one of my favourite films. I then found out about the director’s past a few months after watching both films for the first time and, even though I don’t support his past AT ALL (obviously), I do still love the Jeepers Creepers films (the first one a lot more), and knowing about his past now hasn’t really ruined the way I see the films. I’ve personally never seen that The Creeper is supposed to symbolise the director; that’s not me purposely trying to unsee that, I just never have. I just see the film as an interesting and unique creature feature, and I’m not argue with you if you do see the symbolism.

    I’m personally looking forward to a third film (if it happens), and I shouldn’t be made to feel guilty for that, or for loving the other two films. I can definitely understand if people can’t seperate the art from the artist, and I’m not gonna force people to if they can’t. But don’t think that, just because I like the films, that I support his past actions. I definitely don’t. I still want the third entry to happen, but yea, basically what some people have been saying on here: might be best to give it to someone else to write/direct, so it can continue.

    I also really want the first film Blu Ray that Shout! factory are releasing (but won’t be able to get coz I’m in the UK -_-). It doesn’t really bother me too much that they’re re-releasing it tbh; the films are between 12-15 years old, so they’ve been around for a while already.

  • w0undedmagic

    “but maybe film studios could start putting clauses in their contracts stating that royalties will be forfeited if criminal charges are made at any point after the film’s release.”

    Tommy Chong gets arrested for possession of marijuana, stops getting royalty checks for Up In Smoke. HAHAHAHA

    This article is flip-floppin’ all over the place.

    Circular-Politics aside, Clownhouse and Jeepers Creepers are great tension-building horror movies with a lot of fun elements. Jeepers Creepers 2 was a huge disappointment for me. I’m not interested in a third one.

  • S. Kirkpatrick

    At least you don’t crucify the man, and you offer some non-judgemental comments. As a footnote to all of this, people’s ignorance and blind hatred for Victor Salva have driven him out of his home and he now resides in a motel on the far north end of Los Angeles County. A motel. Far from his former Hollywood Hills home. What happened to “Hate the sin, not the sinner?” He did his time and, by all accounts, has not re-offended in any way since leaving prison and completing his parole. Mr. Salva is a tremendous creative talent. He makes scary movies that people love. Yet all of you want to drive him away, shun him and prevent him from doing what he does best, which happens to have brought much pleasure to many, many theater audiences over the years. If he murdered a man, did his time and were now out on the streets again, no one would even care. Hasn’t he endured enough?

  • M.D.R.

    I agree with almost everything you said & while I can’t sit through Jeepers Creepers anymore without the constant thought in my head about the irony of the monster movie that has a monster behind the camera but the pit in my stomach while watch the movie is what stops me from enjoying a movie I once loved. A movie that even with my feelings towards the director & my inability to watch it today if asked I’d still use the words brilliant, suspenseful & masterpiece to discribe it. That’s just my opinion & I don’t fault anyone who can or can’t seperate the monster movie from the monster who made it.

    While I like your idea of a clause in the contract that would prevent someone from getting royalties for a product after being convicted of a crime it would have to be very carefully worded to prevent say a creedy studio from fabricating a crime to screw over entertainers when a film does extremely well. I thought for a moment what about if the royalties go towards the victim(s) then just as quickly as the thought came I realized how many people would come out of the wood work the the claim of abuse towards George Lucas with the sole purpose to get his royalties from the Star Wars franchise.

    The only part of your article I actually took issue with is clumping all crimes together is in my opinion absurd. Assuming I read it correctly and that you meant exactly what it says i understand it as you saying if you wish to protest a film written & directed by a convicted child molester then you should also protest a film from someone who’s been convicted of stealing a car or smoking pot or getting drunk in public because they are all crimes too and you can’t condem one for committing a crime and not others. You’re right about taking issue with one director being a sex offender and getting a pass over another however I think you are incorrect when you say “You can’t condemn one person over the other just because you believe one crime is worse. A crime is a crime” under that logic if a rapist gets 20 years in prison then a person who stole a car should be given the same sentence. Or that a father who stole a loaf of bread should be viewed the same a child molester. That to me & again this just my opinion is rediculas because while yes each is a crime there are reasons to stealing a loaf of bread and I can even understand that there may have been a reason to steal a car or simply this stupidity of youth for example yet I don’t think there is ever an excuse to rape a person or molest a child. I think for the most part the courts don’t feel a crime is a crime either since different crimes carry different sentences. However I do think if you are going to take issue with Jeepers Creepers and protest it and yet more than willing to watch Pianist and still sing its praises you are a hipocrit. So while I don’t agree a crime is a crime I’d agree a sex crime is a sex crime.

    I’m also very torn because since seeing Darry tattoo on the Creeper I’ve really wanted to see Trish drive a pickaxe into the creepers skull.