I have no interest in continuing this discussion cuz you guys don't piss me off like Heretic does but I'm getting there. Here's the real kicker - people said the EXACT. SAME. THING. about styles of wrestling that have changed the business in every generation. Shawn and The Rockers got the same fucking shit. The cruiserweights got the same shit. The guys in Japan got the same shit.Midnight-Kroovy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:31 pmYou're arguement doesn't make sense and is bizarre, you are the one watching WWE not me...
WWE is guilty for practically all the points I made, its been shit for ages yet no one has stepped up and offered a good alternative to recapture the millions of fans that have tuned out. GFW is still in the dumpster and looks like Lucha Underground is probably gonna die soon. I liked LU's attitude and they had some great matches but I could never get on board with their premise.
ROH and NJPW are fine for what they are but they don't quench my thirst, after a couple of shows or TV they usually lose my interest. I don't see them growing into proper competition unless they make a few plays and rolls of the dice.
I stated that the indies are the best they've been in 15 years and have potential. It's not booming though and needs to win back A LOT of people.
If you think "smart" wrestling is slow and boring then thats fine, I can accept your opinion. Just understand that people have different tastes and not everyone bows down to worship the stiff, 100 knees to face aerial wrestling or wrestlers.
1.) I'm not saying WWE style can't be good. I'm saying WWE style, for the most part, is and has been bad for a long time and the other wrestling I watch is UNDENIABLY better from a work standpoint. You can't argue that. It's a lie. That's what gets me pissed.
2.) Lets be honest - how much of ROH/New Japan not quenching your thirst has to do with the production values/spectacle/"important" feel of it all? That's the main thing that I was always hung up on. Like, I'm sure the wrestling's great, but does it matter? Spoiler - yes.
3.) Indies are booming - "Upcoming 6 weeks of "bingo hall" $ >> Last 4 months of "big league" $. Awesome to see the #prowrestling scene thriving around the ." - Aries
ROH just had its most successful tour ever and like I've said, you don't have to go to WWE to make a living anymore. It's just how it is.
4.) LUCHA/INDIE/STRONG/WHATEVER STYLE CAN AND IS SMART. YOU'RE NOT AUTOMATICALLY SMART BECAUSE YOU WORK SLOW AND "SAFE". New Japan fine for what it is? Like, being an incredible wrestling show with booking that makes sense and great personalities? Uh, YEAH.
Enjoy whatever wrestling you want but we gotta stop this nonsense