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  • Originally posted by Myerszilla View Post
    @PsychoKidVicious It felt real for me as well, and it felt like something that could really happen. There are people out there who are incredibly twisted, and you can bet your ass that eventually one day a similar event will happen in reality. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but with there seemingly being more sadistic bastards popping up daily, it's almost guaranteed.
    Interesting how you state that threre are more sadistic bastards popping up every day. What interested me about Hoyt is his progression into sociopathy. First he murdered the cop only to protect Tommy from harm. Then he decided to kidnap at random innocent travellers, but for the 'noble' reason of feeding his family. Then he obviously took a fancy to Diora Baird's character and crossed the line into becoming a rapist. Then he encouraged Tommy to murder someone with a chainsaw and before long everything he does is purely for sadistic reasons, and his original 'intention' is seemingly lost. I found his own perverse delcine into total psychopathy quite frightening, because it all happened in a few hours and though he was obviously disturbed previously, it made me think of how easily some people can fall into psychological disturbance.
    “One day men will look back and say i gave birth to the twentieth century.”

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    • Only seen this once, but I did enjoy it, gonna have to buy it.

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      • Originally posted by PsychoKidVicious View Post
        Interesting how you state that threre are more sadistic bastards popping up every day. What interested me about Hoyt is his progression into sociopathy. First he murdered the cop only to protect Tommy from harm. Then he decided to kidnap at random innocent travellers, but for the 'noble' reason of feeding his family. Then he obviously took a fancy to Diora Baird's character and crossed the line into becoming a rapist. Then he encouraged Tommy to murder someone with a chainsaw and before long everything he does is purely for sadistic reasons, and his original 'intention' is seemingly lost. I found his own perverse delcine into total psychopathy quite frightening, because it all happened in a few hours and though he was obviously disturbed previously, it made me think of how easily some people can fall into psychological disturbance.
        I agree with that assessment, and I think that Hoyt may have had a desire to kill long before these events, and may have actually carried out murder in some form in the past, but now he's more open about it, and he's much more twisted as a result of killing more people and torturing more people.

        And speaking of Diora Baird's character, do you think that at some point in time he actually raped her? It's never implied he did, and all he did was touch her breast, but this is something I've recently started wondering about.

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        • Originally posted by Myerszilla View Post
          And speaking of Diora Baird's character, do you think that at some point in time he actually raped her? It's never implied he did, and all he did was touch her breast, but this is something I've recently started wondering about.
          Well, the way I saw it, he climbed ontop of her as she was totally helpless, groped her and leered into her ear that he loved her before the scene cut away to a shot of the house and her screaming. I'm pretty sure he raped her. It was at least strongly suggested. I felt that during the car-crash scene he took a definite liking to her and was suddenly very glad to be alone with her. Also, his punching her teeth out suggested he'd sexually assaulted her in, ahem, varying ways. Lets face it, the guy was so fucking demented by that point that nothing really mattered to him, and she was just a piece of very attractive meat to him. Not the first time rape has been a feature of Texas Chainsaw btw- Leatherfaces daughter was the product of rape in TCM III.
          “One day men will look back and say i gave birth to the twentieth century.”

          Jack The Ripper

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          • Right, right, I forgot about her screaming as they showed the house in full view, and with that, I, too, would say he more than likely raped her. The guy is as depraved as they come, but Jessica Biel's character [Erin] put an end to all that.

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            • Originally posted by Myerszilla View Post
              The guy is as depraved as they come, but Jessica Biel's character [Erin] put an end to all that.

              Y'know, I hate the ending of TCM remake now. Hoyt was so sociopathically cunning in the prequel, I just can't see him being tricked like that. The Hoyt shown in the prequel would never have let Erin get the better of him. He knew that Dean was lying about being a Nam vet right off the bat, just by intuition, Maybe by the remake his mind had degenerated so badly he wasn't as sharp. He did look alot more dishevelled and schitzophrenic in the remake, and mental illness is degenerative.
              “One day men will look back and say i gave birth to the twentieth century.”

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              • I don't think it was that so much as it was that he wasn't expecting Erin to try to kill him. I think he expected her to try to escape, not fight back.

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                • I enjoyed both modern TCM movies. I dug the remake and is to me the best franchise remake I've seen (including F13 and Halloween. It remains to be seen if it's better than the NOES remake).
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                  • Originally posted by PsychoKidVicious View Post
                    Interesting how you state that threre are more sadistic bastards popping up every day. What interested me about Hoyt is his progression into sociopathy. First he murdered the cop only to protect Tommy from harm. Then he decided to kidnap at random innocent travellers, but for the 'noble' reason of feeding his family. Then he obviously took a fancy to Diora Baird's character and crossed the line into becoming a rapist. Then he encouraged Tommy to murder someone with a chainsaw and before long everything he does is purely for sadistic reasons, and his original 'intention' is seemingly lost. I found his own perverse delcine into total psychopathy quite frightening, because it all happened in a few hours and though he was obviously disturbed previously, it made me think of how easily some people can fall into psychoe logical disturbance.


                    Nice points, I agree. Hoyt is the star of the remake and prequel

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                    • This is definitely my favorite of the remakes next to part III (leatherface)

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                      • Originally posted by Gutter View Post
                        This is definitely my favorite of the remakes next to part III (leatherface)


                        Leatherface is good

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                        • Originally posted by Grim Reaper Roper View Post
                          Leatherface is good
                          yeah i love that film

                          but i dunno what it is about this film (The Beginning) i just really enjoy it.

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                          • Originally posted by Gutter View Post
                            yeah i love that film

                            but i dunno what it is about this film (The Beginning) i just really enjoy it.


                            I like it alot because it's so mean spirited and violent. A very untypical Hollywood horror film...


                            Plus how badass is Hoyt?

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                            • Hoyts a fucking prick, but badass

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                              • Originally posted by Gutter View Post
                                Hoyts a fucking prick, but badass
                                Yup, R. Lee Ermey is great at being both of those...

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