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  • Originally posted by Jack the Pin View Post
    Two great zombie scenes sandwiched between oh-so-much torpor in Sunday the 17 th's episode. The ongoing challange for the creators of this series will be to somehow effectively balance the drama and the zombie action in a way that allows each episode to flow. I thought they were getting a handle on this, but they just keep adding these oddball complications that really affect the pacing. Every new element such as Rick's mental disturbances and the arrival of yet more characters requires explanation which has to be provided by the characters and their interactions. When it's done effectively it provides great dramatic tension that accelerates and enhances the action. When it's not done well, it becomes an encumbrance leading to lengthy explication via tedious dialogue. Drama is fine when it's as hard edged as the subject matter, but alot of the touchy/feely stuff between, say, the Gov and Andrea and especially between Glenn and Maggie just sucks the vitality and forward momentum right out of the episode. I understand that these people are traumatized, but do they have to fuss and flame and backbite like a bunch of tweenies at a school dance? I really think it's unwise to put Rick in a weakened postion. Having him exhibit a fragile mental state weakens his character immeasurably. Unless the hallucinations and the phantom phone conversations are part of some substantial kind of supernatural element creeping its way into the series (like zombies aren't supernatural enough) then it really serves no purpose.
    Bingo.

    Also, what happened to the non-English speaking Hispanic family that were trapped on the bridge? What the hell is a non-English speaking Hispanic family doing trapped on a bridge in Cracker Fucking Central Georgia during a zombie apocalypse in the first place? They must really be lost.
    Well, without them being there for Merle to chew out, we would never know that Merle is racist pig. Oh' wait...

    Such a pointless scene, but at least the kills were pretty cool.


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    • Still, there's alot of goodness in this series for me to glom onto. I really like the subtle mirroring going on between the prison and Woodbury groups and between Rick and the Govenor. It would seem that Rick's humane nature is becoming a liability. The Govenor might be a headcase and a sociopath, but his lack of remorse, his guile, and his ruthlessness make him a treacherous opponent. He certainly out strategized Rick in invading the prison, and he did it with amazing precision. The bread truck walker bomb was a stroke of evil genius. That's the great thing about TWD, just when you think everything has gone hopelessly 90210, you get a really exciting, edge-of-you-seat, nail biter scene like the one that ended Sunday night's episode.

      Now if someone could just shoot Andrea....

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      • Season 3: Episode 10 - Wooohooooo!! Tons better than the previous eppy. Aww...poor Axel. That was a surprise kill. That was a VERY close call for Carol too. OMG!! She better not die anytime soon, because I want to see her get it on with Daryl a few times. LOL!! That damn gorvernor needs to be eaten slowly by the zombies and then torn apart. But the actor(forgot his name) portraying him is wonderful. Also loved watching Michonne slice and dice the zombies with her wicked sword. Lots of intense moments and action at the end of the episode. Soooooo happy Daryl came back "home", to where he belongs with the group. Loved this episode.

        10/10

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        • [SPOILER]I just have to say the BUS BOMB FULL OF ZOMBIES was pretty awesome. [/SPOILER]

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          • Originally posted by Jack the Pin View Post
            Also, what happened to the non-English speaking Hispanic family that were trapped on the bridge? What the hell is a non-English speaking Hispanic family doing trapped on a bridge in Cracker Fucking Central Georgia during a zombie apocalypse in the first place? They must really be lost. And that car...what's with that car? You have basically your pick of vehicles and you choose to ride out the mayhem in a tiny little red hatch back with no clearance and these itty-bitty doughnut tires? C'mon....
            Yeah I thought the same, Mexico and Georgia are a bit of ride from one another. Rick definitely needs to go or get better real quick because his weirdness is dragging down the show. Bring Tyress back and have him take over the group asap.

            Originally posted by craftychicka View Post
            [SPOILER]I just have to say the BUS BOMB FULL OF ZOMBIES was pretty awesome. [/SPOILER]

            Agreed, I was on the edge of my seat wondering 'wtf is this all about', lol [SPOILER]And who was watching the baby during this whole attack? Zombies are let in, they were just talking about how zombies were overtaking the catacombs and getting closer, so no one was keeping their peepers on the baby?[/SPOILER]

            [SPOILER]Also Glenn wound up looking like the ultimate dildo, he whined and whined about preparing for the Governors attack and wanting to personally kill the cyclops yet when the attack happens he's away mending the fence and shows up in time to simply watch the governor stroll right past him and he doesn't fire so much as a shot but just stares at him with a 'well I'll be doggone' look on his face[/SPOILER]

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            • Originally posted by Outpost #31 View Post
              Not sure if this was posted but I just stumbled across it


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              • Originally posted by Rusted View Post

                Love The Governor and the conflict that's arisen between the prison and Woodbury, although I'm really tired of Rick. He's been the focus for three seasons now, he's lost his wife and has lost it. Why don't the producers create a truly shocking moment and divert from the comics and kill him off.
                I agree, he's by far the least likeable character on the show, and when you have redundant bitches like Andrea or Carl in the mix, that's really saying something. It certainly doesn't help that Lincoln is hamming it up every episode - the dude is a terrible actor. I don't think it would in any way affect the success of the show if they were to quit adherring to the comics and just off him. His character and Lincoln's portrayal of him are beyond the point of repair now.
                .

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                • From this...

                  Originally posted by Jack the Pin View Post
                  Two great zombie scenes sandwiched between oh-so-much torpor in Sunday the 17 th's episode. The ongoing challange for the creators of this series will be to somehow effectively balance the drama and the zombie action in a way that allows each episode to flow. I thought they were getting a handle on this, but they just keep adding these oddball complications that really affect the pacing. Every new element such as Rick's mental disturbances and the arrival of yet more characters requires explanation which has to be provided by the characters and their interactions. When it's done effectively it provides great dramatic tension that accelerates and enhances the action. When it's not done well, it becomes an encumbrance leading to lengthy explication via tedious dialogue. Drama is fine when it's as hard edged as the subject matter, but alot of the touchy/feely stuff between, say, the Gov and Andrea and especially between Glenn and Maggie just sucks the vitality and forward momentum right out of the episode. I understand that these people are traumatized, but do they have to fuss and flame and backbite like a bunch of tweenies at a school dance? I really think it's unwise to put Rick in a weakened postion. Having him exhibit a fragile mental state weakens his character immeasurably. Unless the hallucinations and the phantom phone conversations are part of some substantial kind of supernatural element creeping its way into the series (like zombies aren't supernatural enough) then it really serves no purpose.

                  Also, what happened to the non-English speaking Hispanic family that were trapped on the bridge? What the hell is a non-English speaking Hispanic family doing trapped on a bridge in Cracker Fucking Central Georgia during a zombie apocalypse in the first place? They must really be lost. And that car...what's with that car? You have basically your pick of vehicles and you choose to ride out the mayhem in a tiny little red hatch back with no clearance and these itty-bitty doughnut tires? C'mon....
                  To this...

                  Originally posted by HorrorMovieFan View Post
                  Season 3: Episode 10 - Wooohooooo!! Tons better than the previous eppy. Aww...poor Axel. That was a surprise kill. That was a VERY close call for Carol too. OMG!! She better not die anytime soon, because I want to see her get it on with Daryl a few times. LOL!! That damn gorvernor needs to be eaten slowly by the zombies and then torn apart. But the actor(forgot his name) portraying him is wonderful. Also loved watching Michonne slice and dice the zombies with her wicked sword. Lots of intense moments and action at the end of the episode. Soooooo happy Daryl came back "home", to where he belongs with the group. Loved this episode.

                  10/10
                  Love the contrast.


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                  • Originally posted by The Devil's Lyric View Post




                    I agree, he's by far the least likeable character on the show, and when you have redundant bitches like Andrea or Carl in the mix, that's really saying something. It certainly doesn't help that Lincoln is hamming it up every episode - the dude is a terrible actor. I don't think it would in any way affect the success of the show if they were to quit adherring to the comics and just off him. His character and Lincoln's portrayal of him are beyond the point of repair now.

                    I don't think Robert Kirkman would even consider having Rick cut out of the series. I've read or heard or somehow recall that Rick Grimes is the lynchpin of the story, and that one of the main thematic treatments of the comic is how one man can change over time and in very fundmental ways in response to an end of the world scenario like this one. Kirkman all but says that the series is built around the character and that if and when the character dies, the COMIC will end with his demise. Now, maybe he feels differently about the comic now, and maybe he never felt that way about the series (I wonder about just how much clout he actually carries with AMC and their production company). At any rate, don't hold your breath waiting for Rick to die anytime soon.

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                    • Pretty slumberous episode until the shootout.
                      And generally speaking, I kind of expected more of the character of the Governor. The promo before the current season depicted him as a mysterious menace. Up to a certain point he is such a "villain", but I always waited for the one wtf-moment revealing his true self, atrocious and really fucked up things. So far, there hasn't been any, aside from the zombies in the jar. Disappointing. Maybe I'm too fed up by other, meaner counterparts.
                      Originally posted by Rusted View Post
                      Latest ep was really good.

                      They've really stepped things up this season.

                      Love The Governor and the conflict that's arisen between the prison and Woodbury, although I'm really tired of Rick. He's been the focus for three seasons now, he's lost his wife and has lost it. Why don't the producers create a truly shocking moment and divert from the comics and kill him off.
                      ...and who would be the new leader then? Merle?!

                      Originally posted by Jack the Pin View Post
                      Two great zombie scenes sandwiched between oh-so-much torpor in Sunday the 17 th's episode. The ongoing challange for the creators of this series will be to somehow effectively balance the drama and the zombie action in a way that allows each episode to flow. I thought they were getting a handle on this, but they just keep adding these oddball complications that really affect the pacing. Every new element such as Rick's mental disturbances and the arrival of yet more characters requires explanation which has to be provided by the characters and their interactions. When it's done effectively it provides great dramatic tension that accelerates and enhances the action. When it's not done well, it becomes an encumbrance leading to lengthy explication via tedious dialogue. Drama is fine when it's as hard edged as the subject matter, but alot of the touchy/feely stuff between, say, the Gov and Andrea and especially between Glenn and Maggie just sucks the vitality and forward momentum right out of the episode. I understand that these people are traumatized, but do they have to fuss and flame and backbite like a bunch of tweenies at a school dance? I really think it's unwise to put Rick in a weakened postion. Having him exhibit a fragile mental state weakens his character immeasurably. Unless the hallucinations and the phantom phone conversations are part of some substantial kind of supernatural element creeping its way into the series (like zombies aren't supernatural enough) then it really serves no purpose.

                      Also, what happened to the non-English speaking Hispanic family that were trapped on the bridge? What the hell is a non-English speaking Hispanic family doing trapped on a bridge in Cracker Fucking Central Georgia during a zombie apocalypse in the first place? They must really be lost. And that car...what's with that car? You have basically your pick of vehicles and you choose to ride out the mayhem in a tiny little red hatch back with no clearance and these itty-bitty doughnut tires? C'mon....
                      Originally posted by The Devil's Lyric View Post
                      I am doing...stuff.
                      Damn, they need to get him out of his self-pity pool as soon as possible. I can't stand men crying and bickering about their fate.

                      Originally posted by The Devil's Lyric View Post
                      I agree, he's by far the least likeable character on the show, and when you have redundant bitches like Andrea or Carl in the mix, that's really saying something. It certainly doesn't help that Lincoln is hamming it up every episode - the dude is a terrible actor. I don't think it would in any way affect the success of the show if they were to quit adherring to the comics and just off him. His character and Lincoln's portrayal of him are beyond the point of repair now.
                      Yeah, he isn't that awe-inspiring or impressing. Quite frankly, none of the actors involved in this series are from a caliber like Breaking Bad or something.
                      "I want this place to go nuts, north, south, east, west, left, right! Activate this dance floor!!"
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                      • I get that revenge is important, but what's the governor got to gain from this assault. It just seems like a lot of trouble for nothing. Still good, but if it was the end of the world, I don't think killing Rick's group would rate that highly. Still a good ep.

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                        • Originally posted by Elvira Mistress of Dark View Post
                          I get that revenge is important, but what's the governor got to gain from this assault. It just seems like a lot of trouble for nothing. Still good, but if it was the end of the world, I don't think killing Rick's group would rate that highly. Still a good ep.
                          [SPOILER]IMO The Governor lost far more in the attack, sure it disrupted things for the group but the guy the Governor shot was pretty much useless but the group got a kill and that guy was a fighter, so from a kill to kill ratio the group won (plus gained two more in Merle and Darryl) but the Gov definitely made a statement.[/SPOILER]

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                          • Rick needs to get off the crazy train! I would like the Governor to be more menacing like he is in the comics.

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                            • Yeah, in the comics the Governor arrived at the prison riding in a tank - Missing 1 eye and 1 arm, hellbent on revenge, ready for blood and wreaked havoc like a boss! Gotta give the dude credit, nothing was keeping him down from fucking shit up no matter if he was handicapped.

                              TV show? Oh, someone from Woodsbury drives a bus full of walkers into the prison yard. *yawns.

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                              • The show recieved 4 "2013 Saturn Award" nominations the other day. Yay!! Congrats to the nominees.

                                Best TV Show
                                Best Actor - Andrew Lincoln
                                Supporting Actor - the "governor" (forgot his name)
                                Supporting Actress - Laurie Holden

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