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  • Originally posted by Willowfang View Post
    Story #1 - The Misbehavers by Willowfang

    R: 4 C: 3 A: 3 T: 3.33
    R: 3 C: 3 A: 3 T: 3.00
    R: 4 C: 2 A: 3 T: 3.00
    Total:
    R: 3.67 C: 2.67 A: 3.00 Total: 3.17

    Story #2 - Untitled by Robcbh

    R: 2.0 C: 3.5 A: 3.5 T: 3.00
    R: 2.5 C: 4.0 A: 3.5 T: 3.33
    Total:
    R: 2.25 C: 3.75 A: 3.5 Total: 3.17

    Story #3 - Intestinal Fortitude by Erebus Dirge
    R: 2.5 C:3.5 A: 3.0 T: 3:00
    R: 3.0 C:5.0 A: 4.5 T: 4.17
    Total:
    R: 2.75 C: 4.25 A: 3.75 Total: 3.58

    Highest Concept, Atmosphere, and Total: Intestinal Fortitude by Erebus Dirge

    Highest Readability: The Misbehavers by Willowfang

    1st place:
    Intestinal Fortitude by Erebus Dirge

    2nd place:
    The Misbehavers by Willowfang

    3rd place:
    Untitled by Robcbh
    No way! Didn't see this one coming! Thanks everyone!

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    • Nice job Dirge, loved the story! it was definitely your best yet!

      Just some food for thought, maybe next time if its just going to be the 3 of us we should just do an open share instead of hiding behind a visage of anonymity? We cans still have a winner and grading, but maybe its more of an open workshop style were we post and do some serious critique. It bit more of a discussion....just a thought.

      And if more people join next time, we can do this style of write-off?
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      • That's sounds like a nice idea, will have to give it more thought, but with so few even submitting stories, why even rank them? Just agree on a theme or other guidelines and then stare what we come up with.
        I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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        • Originally posted by Willowfang View Post
          That's sounds like a nice idea, will have to give it more thought, but with so few even submitting stories, why even rank them? Just agree on a theme or other guidelines and then stare what we come up with.
          Agreed, I think were it has largely been the 3 of us for the last 2 write offs i think it would be more beneficial to us all if we had more of a conversation on the piece instead of like a quick rating then go. Its also alot more to discuss your piece and where its going and see what worked on a more precise level.
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          • Kinda picturing Gordon Ramsey 1st asking the writer:

            "Okay, so what have you done here?"

            And then you describe what you were going for, what you were trying to convey. The Readability sorta goes out the window, but doesn't really lose it's importance if you want to come across well in the other two areas we've been grading on.

            Then you describe the concept you were trying to put together, same as before, but telling what you hoped to "score".

            And then Atmosphere, you tell what mood you were hoping to achieve.

            We wouldn't have the scoring we did before, but with the critiques from others, we'd get an idea of how successful we were in our aims.

            So for me:

            =====

            This story is about Jason Vorhees after the zombie apocalypse has hit, he's culling his home of Crystal Lake of irresponsible adults as always. When people stop showing up, he goes looking for why. He comes across the Mall from Dawn Of the Dead and then decides to "go take Manhattan"

            The concept here is presenting how the mind of a child reacts and views the zombies in much the same way he sees irresponsible adults.

            There's not a lot of overt dread here really, just the story of Jason applying his same rules to the zombie overrun world.
            I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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            • Still a little early for more definitive discussion, but see above posts 152-155.

              Given the number of people who submit in the end, I'd like to just go with the "workshop" dynamic if everyone that expects to submit a story is up for it.

              How it'll differ is that in addition to sending me your story for review before posting as always, you include the answer to the "Gordon Ramsey" question above.

              "Okay, so what were you going for here?"

              1. You lay out your Summary, basically what you'd tell a friend what the story was going for/about in the first place.

              This story is about Jason Vorhees after the zombie apocalypse has hit, he's culling his home of Crystal Lake of irresponsible adults as always. When people stop showing up, he goes looking for why. He comes across the Mall from Dawn Of the Dead and then decides to "go take Manhattan"
              2. Concept: Boil it all down, what's going on behind the curtain:

              The concept here is presenting how the mind of a child reacts and views the zombies in much the same way he sees irresponsible adults.
              3. Atmosphere: must the same as before, but describe the mood you were going for so we can see how well you presented your idea, maybe you were going for something super creepy, Lovecraftian dread, or just something more comedic.

              There's not a lot of overt dread here really, just the story of Jason applying his same rules to the zombie overrun world.
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              We could still rate what we read with the old scoring system, but there'd be no 1st, 2nd, or 3rd places, just a scale to measure ourselves by.

              We could still use the theme/genre guidelines we've used in the past to help challenge us, tho not needed in the same way as before to help measure the stories in the same way as we were doing. Would still be cool maybe to get a variety of takes on the same themes at once rather than stories coming from all directions.

              Thoughts?
              I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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              • Just gonna start the discussion here rather than in a new thread.

                Should also have posted this last Monday, but it shouldn't effect things very much.

                If we do this, we start writing on Monday, April 7th, in 4 weeks I think.

                Read the post about, and then posts 152-155 for more details. I think we'll be going for a more "workshop" style this time and going non-anonymous as well.

                We usually use a theme and/or genre in the Spring, we can still do that. or just leave it wide open so we're not trying to work with that as well as the new workshop stiyle we'll be trying.

                So any thoughts and who's in?

                As always, it's no crime to say you're in and plan to write, but then not have nothing to submit due to real life taking it's toll. Just nice to know who all is going to give it a try for the sake of discussion.
                I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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                • Sorry for the late response took me like3 days to remember my password.

                  I am in as always. I agree with the doing something more workshoppy. Here what I would propose:

                  -Author posts their story only, nothing about intent or backstory. other have a certain time frame to post their open ended critiques and the author can respond as necessary (i think will work because the most recent comments are on the bottom). After a week, the next author will post.

                  - I think we should still stick to a theme for the sake of the "write-off."

                  On a personal note, Willow, I am not sure where Dirge has been he hasn't written anything for the horror site he was writing for a while and I have seen him on Facebook in quite some time. It would be super nice to gte some new people to post, but writing a real commitment and its tough to devout the time.
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                  • I'm cool with a theme, but we need to start brainstorming then. I'll dig up the master list of themes and post it here Friday or Saturday.

                    Kinda wonder about stating our intent tho. If we do it with the story, it would kinda defeat the purpose of "showing" and not "telling", doing it after others have chimed in on your result works well enough. And can have people ask questions of the writer to get some of the background on the ideas involved.

                    Dirge said something about the last one being his last write off as he was going to concentrate on more professional writing, tho don't remember if it was one of the write off threads or just to me in PMs
                    I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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                    • I'll be submitting this time around. Lord knows I have the time. I'm a bit suspicious of this new workshop format, but I'm up for anything as long as it's a concept that can be worked in an interesting way. There are so few entrants these days that perhaps it would be a good idea to make the contest as simple and painless as possible. I wonder if people really want to spend the time critiquing other people's work as well as trying to set numerical values to things like plot, theme, originality, etc. I do think that submissions should be presented in an anonymous way as it allows people to read the stories without prejudice.

                      You do a great job on these things, Willow, and I admire the fact that you've been doing it single-handedly for some time now. just remember that this needn't be as complicated as the drafts. All that's really needed is to create an interest and let momentum do the rest.

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                      • Thanks

                        The workshop idea is to make it more laid back, people sharing their stories and then getting feedback on their presentation rather than a score that calls for a technical critique

                        If someone wanted to stay anonymous, we could do that, tho for myself I like the idea of responding to questions and explaining the ideas I pulled together.

                        When we were getting 5+ stories, the scores worked well I think, but with 4 or less, scoring them to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd doesn't come across as well as with a larger field of stories.
                        I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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                        • Originally posted by Willowfang View Post
                          Thanks

                          The workshop idea is to make it more laid back, people sharing their stories and then getting feedback on their presentation rather than a score that calls for a technical critique

                          If someone wanted to stay anonymous, we could do that, tho for myself I like the idea of responding to questions and explaining the ideas I pulled together.

                          When we were getting 5+ stories, the scores worked well I think, but with 4 or less, scoring them to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd doesn't come across as well as with a larger field of stories.
                          Also, for the last 2-3 drafts posting "anonymously" I felt was silly. I could instantly tell whose was whose after a paragraph or so. I agree with no numerical value as having 4 entrants and awarding them 1st, 2nd, 3rd feels a bit self indulgent. I also think a lot more can be gained by having a more thought out critique rather than just sticking to a score box.

                          If it turns out that we have more entries this time around, I am all for going back to the old method though.
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                          • Okay, so here's the compiled theme/genre master list:

                            Atomic Horror
                            Zombie Outbreak
                            Bad Blood - Bad Families
                            Below the Surface
                            Creature Feature
                            Crossroads
                            Eco-Horror
                            Foreign Bodies - Medical/Science gone bad
                            Historical
                            Holiday
                            Horror-Noir
                            Institution
                            Occult
                            Outer Space
                            Over The Top
                            Slasher
                            Supernatural Menace

                            I also had a new idea a few weeks ago, Found Footage. Kinda strange to WRITE a FF story maybe, but I came up with an idea for such a story as I was mulling over what to write this time.

                            So who likes what this time around?
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                            I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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                            • I will dio a preliminary vote for Below the surface, eco horror, and Found Footage.

                              FF is a great idea, though it might be hard to pull off.
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                              • Yeah, tho one thought I had, if you can write a FF movie script, it must be possible to write a FF story that works as well.

                                I'll chime in for Found Footage, Supernatural Menace, and Aliens

                                Just thought of Alien when I only now noticed we don't have any kind of alien invasion/menace on our list.
                                I met her, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and not even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this cow, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach her, and then another seven trying to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living behind that cow's eyes was purely and simply... evil.

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