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  • Originally posted by Se7en XxSinzXx View Post
    Maybe not in the first film, but definitely the second or third.
    My point exactly, they'll let anticipation build up for him. Of course everyone wants to see who will tackle the Joker character next after Heath Ledger's phenemonal performance, but they're going to wait, not thrust him into the center stage first film.

    Same thing applies to horror movies, it's okay to let certain characters take a rest, that way when you do return to those characters there can actually be a fresh take on it.

    I just want a carefully planned & thoughtful series of films that re-establishes Myers as the Shape, this instrument of evil that evoke terror into the audience. And to do that you have to cut out this family shit for the time being, & give Laurie Strode a rest.

    Here's the thing. Halloween can't be improved. The original is arguably the best horror film of all time and no combination of elements could improve or better it.
    It's this kind of thinking that leads to mediocre results. If you step into a project with the thought "I can't beat John Carpenter's original" then you're setting yourself up to fail, because that's not even the goal. The goal isn't to improve upon or better what the initial film set up, the goal is to make a movie that is good, that is suspenseful, & rather than competing with the original, pays respect to it by being able to stand on it's own merits.

    You don't ever set out to make a film with the thought "this has to be better than [insert movie name]". The primary goal should be making a worthwhile product. If you can't fully invest in your idea, how do you expect anybody else to?

    I'v said it once and I'll say it again. Leave it alone.


    Making a good comic and making a good movie are entirely different things.
    Nobody ever said they were the same, but, as I stated, it does prove that good stories can come about from people who are actually willing to go beyond the conventions of the series.

    Look at the last TCM. I haven't seen it but it seems to be unanimously hated by everyone. There is no reason to keep making these movies.
    TCM 3D was made to get your $16, & everybody who made it knew that. If the people involved are only in it for the check, of course the final product won't be worth shit. Just because shitty people have had their go at making a movie in the franchise doesn't mean there aren't interesting stories worth telling.

    But that's not going to happen. We should be encouraging original film ideas, not sequels/remakes of 30-40 year old movies. How can you expect another masterpiece of a film that was executed perfectly three decades ago?
    I don't recall stating I want a remake of Halloween exactly the same as it was. I said I want the idea of the Shape to carry over to a new series of films, which means no brother/sister story angle, & new characters. That's entirely different, & would be more of a stand-alone film creating a new universe rather than being a remake. I'm not clamoring for a remake, I want something that's original, new, & has suspense. Take the general idea, & shape it into something new for a modern audience.

    I didn't say it had to be her, I said it doesn't take a skilled filmmaker to make me care about Laurie since I already did going into the movie.

    You seem to think new & fresh automatically = good.
    Again, where did I say this specifically? New and fresh doesn't automatically equal good, but it can be a great thing if you have the right players latched to the project.

    I'm for new and original shit, but if it's not executed properly (Which H2 obviously wasn't.) it's meaningless.
    H2 stands as easily being one of the best of the series. Again, imo, the Director's Cut of it is the best in the franchise after Carpenter's original. I think H2's execution was pin-point, people just didn't bother to actually pay attention.

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    • Looks like things are churning again.

      http://bloody-disgusting.com/exclusi...-3d-exclusive/

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      • Won't care until I see some actual footage.

        Just make the fucking thing. It's cheap. It's horror. Find somebody serviceable and get it done.


        Put "2 Fast 2 Furious" in B&W and Se7en thinks he's watching a Bergman film.
        I find the Metal Gear Solid series to be mediocre at best.

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        • Can we expect another invasion of the boards upon H3's release? Haha

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          • A 3D Halloween film is a great idea actually. The scariest thing about Michael Myers, for me anyway, is that's you never really know where he is until the last second.

            The combination of 3D cameras and solid CG could create some really great shadow effects and give Myers plenty of places to hide (in 3D space) before lunging out of the darkness. For example, think about the scene in original where Myers slowly creeps out of the darkness in the doorframe behind Lorie Strode. Now imagine that scene filmed with some decent 3D / CG.

            I think as long as they make good use of the 3D technology to enhance to atmosphere and mood, it won't really matter what story. Just keep it simple and cast well.

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            • Originally posted by dead breed View Post
              Can we expect another invasion of the boards upon H3's release? Haha
              I wish! Don't think we're active enough for that anymore though.

              Originally posted by damnenchiladas View Post
              A 3D Halloween film is a great idea actually. The scariest thing about Michael Myers, for me anyway, is that's you never really know where he is until the last second.
              I'm conflicted on this. Carpenter's Halloween is much more effective than the remake but I do find Zombie's Myers to be way more imposing and a more formidable killer overall. So in saying that, I find Myers in the remake to be scarier as an individual but he's automatically scarier in the earlier films just because they're better. Does that make sense?

              Originally posted by damnenchiladas View Post
              I think as long as they make good use of the 3D technology to enhance to atmosphere and mood, it won't really matter what story. Just keep it simple and cast well.
              But how often does 3D actually get put to good use? Especially in horror? You know if a studio uses 3D they're going to want those money shots.


              Put "2 Fast 2 Furious" in B&W and Se7en thinks he's watching a Bergman film.
              I find the Metal Gear Solid series to be mediocre at best.

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              • Originally posted by Se7en View Post
                I'm conflicted on this. Carpenter's Halloween is much more effective than the remake but I do find Zombie's Myers to be way more imposing and a more formidable killer overall. So in saying that, I find Myers in the remake to be scarier as an individual but he's automatically scarier in the earlier films just because they're better. Does that make sense?
                That makes sense. But I think that Carpenter's Myers is scarier than Zombie's, even as an individual. That's mostly because Carpenter's Myers has all that strength although his physique isn't showing that.

                Zombie's Myers basically is just a Jason with a different mask. But the original Michael is much more creepy because he is dangerous and strong without showing that off.
                The advantage of being a psychopath is that you don't have to take shit from anyone.

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                • Originally posted by Nudels View Post
                  Zombie's Myers basically is just a Jason with a different mask. But the original Michael is much more creepy because he is dangerous and strong without showing that off.
                  Yeah exactly. It's become a trend for every slasher villain to become a caricature. Both Leatherface and Michael Myers ended up becoming big savage brutes who acted more like Jason Voorhees than their actual original incarnations. Say what you want about H20. but I loved that it's Myers was the closest in physique and attitude to the original than any other sequel.



                  Right, 'cause the world is just buzzing about this 4th entry to an already tired franchise. I can't seem to go anywhere without hearing about Jurassic World. It's the next Hunger Games.

                  $30 - $40 million opening weekend if they're lucky, and then out of existence it will quickly go. Count on it.

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                  • Originally posted by damnenchiladas View Post
                    A 3D Halloween film is a great idea actually. The scariest thing about Michael Myers, for me anyway, is that's you never really know where he is until the last second.

                    The combination of 3D cameras and solid CG could create some really great shadow effects and give Myers plenty of places to hide (in 3D space) before lunging out of the darkness. For example, think about the scene in original where Myers slowly creeps out of the darkness in the doorframe behind Lorie Strode. Now imagine that scene filmed with some decent 3D / CG.

                    I think as long as they make good use of the 3D technology to enhance to atmosphere and mood, it won't really matter what story. Just keep it simple and cast well.
                    One good thing is that it's already been announced that it's 3d, as a lot of recent 3d movies were forced to be converted while they were actually shooting. The only one that was even worth it, was Pacific Rim.

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                    • Also, as already said, if put to good use 3D could actually do well for Halloween. Definitively better than found footage for F13.
                      The advantage of being a psychopath is that you don't have to take shit from anyone.

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                      • Originally posted by Nudels View Post
                        That's mostly because Carpenter's Myers has all that strength although his physique isn't showing that.

                        But the original Michael is much more creepy because he is dangerous and strong without showing that off.
                        Don't get this logic at all

                        Originally posted by aaronmb View Post
                        One good thing is that it's already been announced that it's 3d, as a lot of recent 3d movies were forced to be converted while they were actually shooting. The only one that was even worth it, was Pacific Rim.
                        The only movies that have been worth 3D, regardless of whether it was converted in post or not, have been Gravity, Avatar, and the new X-Men.

                        Sure, it COULD be used well in this new Halloween but what makes any of you believe that is going to happen?


                        Put "2 Fast 2 Furious" in B&W and Se7en thinks he's watching a Bergman film.
                        I find the Metal Gear Solid series to be mediocre at best.

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                        • Originally posted by Se7en View Post
                          Don't get this logic at all
                          Well, Zombie's Myers is just another Jason. You see that he's big and strong. So what? You see him, you run away.
                          When you see the original Myers you might be thinking "Oh, what the fuck, I just smash his bloody face in!" and then he smashes your face in. And you didn't see that coming. Which is creepier.
                          The advantage of being a psychopath is that you don't have to take shit from anyone.

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                          • Originally posted by Nudels View Post
                            Well, Zombie's Myers is just another Jason. You see that he's big and strong. So what? You see him, you run away.
                            When you see the original Myers you might be thinking "Oh, what the fuck, I just smash his bloody face in!" and then he smashes your face in. And you didn't see that coming. Which is creepier.
                            Yes this. It was that really subtle hint of supernatural evil, but still not being so outright about it.



                            Right, 'cause the world is just buzzing about this 4th entry to an already tired franchise. I can't seem to go anywhere without hearing about Jurassic World. It's the next Hunger Games.

                            $30 - $40 million opening weekend if they're lucky, and then out of existence it will quickly go. Count on it.

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                            • Malek Akkad Offers a Halloween 3 Update…



                              Malek Akkad – son of Moustapha Akkad and overseer of all things related to Michael Myers and the Halloween series – hit the carpet of the Saturn Awards and Collider got some quotes from him about the franchise.

                              The long-mooted Halloween 3 was brought up, naturally. But Akkad remained rather tight-lipped about the project which was said to be gaining some momentum a few months back.

                              I can’t talk about it too much right now, but it will definitely keep elements and bring in new elements. But I really want to bring it back to kind of like, the classic – because the last one got a little dark – I want to bring it back to the classic Friday night horror film that people will really like.
                              That's a pretty broad quote. Doesn't say much, but hey…it's something from Akkad since all of those recent rumblings.

                              The new script, he asserts, will not be the Patrick Lussier/Todd Farmer-scripted sequel. Instead, they'll be working from an all-new take.

                              Todd Farmer and Patrick Lussier did a script. The next day after the last one came out, we were back in production for Halloween 3D. We were about two weeks from going down to Louisiana to shoot it and for whatever reason, the studio thought we were maybe moving a little bit too quickly. I disagree. I think we had a great script and a great team and it would have been a massive hit. But right now we’re currently working on a new script for Halloween 3, so it’s all in the works right now.

                              Akkad announced that the Halloween 6 producer cut will be included in the forthcoming Blu-ray box set.

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                              • Anyone see the animatic this guy put together?

                                [YOUTUBE]9ZECC-f1CKU[/YOUTUBE]

                                I'd watch this.

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