The fact that you said 'Alien" is thought provoking and you used that as some slight against "Aliens" (basically saying it's merely a dumb action flick) when in actuality it's a dressed up b-movie is what I've been pointing out all along. (& actually said as much already verbatim) I would like to think an accomplished industry vet such as yourself would have more polished reading and comprehension skills.
And I like how long this argument has gone but you haven't acknowledged the fact that of the two films "Aliens" is the only one that didn't use the guy in a suit technique at all when Winston created the Queen Alien. And that character is a huge reason why that film is great & it's unquestionably an important part of the iconography of the franchise.
i don't think alien 3 is a bad film--it's well made, competent, etc--per se, but i FUCKING HATE what they did to hicks, bishop, and especially newt in the first two seconds. it just undoes aliens beautiful, fairy-tale ending. i'm not against darkness, or depressing content, but at least let newt live, or at least be in some of the movie, not have her immediately killed and then autopsied in front of ripley. just talking about it makes me wanna open up my wrists. but i do respect this: each of the four movies follows the adventures of ripley in distinct and unusual ways.
i do hate alien 3, though.
My thoughts to a "T". I also find Charles S Dutton's character annoying.
Alien. Basically because it had more of a horror element to it and that atmosphere was excellent. Aliens was just as good but it had a different aspect to it. More action and Sci-Fi. I just like Alien better. I liked all the Alien movies to come to think of it.
When there is no more room in hell. The dead will walk the Earth.
Alien. Basically because it had more of a horror element to it and that atmosphere was excellent. Aliens was just as good but it had a different aspect to it. More action and Sci-Fi. I just like Alien better.
After watching Alien and Aliens back to back last night I'd have to say Alien is the better movie.
I like the slower suspenseful dark atmosphere of the first Alien than that of the action packed Aliens.
Also I thought it was kinda cheesy Aliens copied the end of the first movie where the queen alien hides on the ship, pops out and Ripley has to send it out into space yet again.
Still loved the ending though.
But both films are an absolute pleasure to watch!
Now I will be watching Alien 3 sometime tonight and I remember loving this movie as a kid, it will be interesting to watch it tonight and see if I now hate it as much as other people or still enjoy it.
Edit - just watched Alien 3 and was very disappointed, I don't hate the film but it's not how I remembered it, all the characters were disappointing as well as the storyline.
1. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - James Gunn
2. Aliens (1986) - James Cameron
3. Starship Troopers (1997) - Paul Verhoeven
4. Blade Runner (1982) - Ridley Scott
5. Europa Report (2013) - Sebastian Cordero
6. Porky's (1982) - Bob Clark
7. Swingers (1996) - Doug Liman
8. The Running Man (1987) - Paul Michael Glaser
9. Weekend at Bernies (1989) - Ted Kotcheff
10. Tucker and Dale vs Evil (2010) - Eli Craig
I may be a little biased here as Aliens is my all time favourite movie. However, I have to admit that from a horror and suspense standpoint, Alien does win. Fact of the matter is that both movies are fantatsic as are the Directors. Ridley Scott is simply fanatastic when it comes to Sci fi