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  • Originally posted by The Revelator View Post
    Clearly most people disagree.

    Also, would you please define "true" horror fan? I didn't realize I had to fill out a check list before I unlock this sacred achievement.
    Clearly most people disagree?
    Is this what pases for an argumentative concensus these days. Tell us what you really think. We're all ears.

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    • Originally posted by The Revelator View Post
      Clearly most people disagree.
      True, but coming from a lot of the same people who liked Rubber.

      Also, would you please define "true" horror fan?
      No, because I was quoting someone. However I will define horror; an overwhelming feeling caused by something frightfully shocking, terrifying, or revolting; a shuddering fear.

      None of which is associated with The Cabin in the Woods.
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      • Or you could attempt a sentence of your own. Cumon - you can do it...

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        • Okay can we not be dissing Wheldon, the man is a genius and is a future legend in horror along with Hatchet mastermind Adam Green.

          I'll explain it for people are didn't get it once again. Cabin is a smart horror film and I like that.

          The Cabin In The Woods is a meta-filmish and a satire for the horror genre alot like Scream. While Scream makes fun of all the cliches, CITW bunches every horror cliche together.

          In Cabin in the woods, the two people in the white shirts at the controls very much work as analogs for the filmmakers, even working as mouthpieces for Whedon and Goddard themselves.

          They are expected to perform a service, to set up the same rote scenarios, manipulate the people into expected roles so that certain expectations will be met. Its not just enough that these people be killed, they need to be "punished". There needs to be sex, because as one man says to the other "We're not the only one's watching." While that line certainly applies to other people at the company who wait with bated breath for nudity, the line is more referring to the elder gods downstairs. The elder gods for whom these people are turned into archetypes, led to perform certain actions and the brutally killed off one by one, are the audience, both within the film and on a less literal comentary level are the audience as in us. Additionally, as much as the people at the controls want something different (Merman!) they find themselves limited to the same old thing (Zombie Redneck torture family!).

          The Cabin In The Woods is a statement about horror. From the talk about how the Japanese have been doing it better than we have lately to the idea that the people watching are cheering on the deaths of characters who merely exist as stereotypes waiting to die. From the script writers placing these characters in cliche situations all the way to the movie's ending literally destroying all Horror movies and flat out saying "Now, someone take a shot at something new!!!" It's an examination and critique of Horror, and a call for more depth, better characterization, new ideas. It's also a critique of Horror fandom, as it slams us for demanding gratuitous nudity and becoming desensitized to the point of cheering when people are tortured and killed. These cliche ridden horror films are being made for a reason...the gods (us, and our money) demand them. It's time that we start to demand more, and thus the world of Horror is destroyed.

          At the end of the film, when the world ends, it isn't our world, it isn't "Earth". It means the movie was not a success, the character's world ends because the audience (The Gods) didn't enjoy the movie, they wanted the cliched horror movie. It means it was a bomb and there'll be no sequel. The audience wasn't satisfied with the end of the horror film, we crave for the correct orders these stereotypes die and when that doesn't happen, we the audience get angry. The whore must die first followed by the athlete, the scholar, the fool and the virgin must be the last one alive to ether die or defeat the evil that these characters bring upon themselves. The fool (Marty) was still alive and we the audience wanted the "virgin" Dana to be the only survivor and that didn't happen.

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          • The yuck-yuck comedy tone didn't do it for me but it was okay. The monster mash at the end pulled out all the stops.
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            • Originally posted by Shape View Post
              True, but coming from a lot of the same people who liked Rubber.
              Rubber was awesome. Cabin was lame.

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              • Originally posted by NightmareWarrior View Post
                Okay can we not be dissing Wheldon, the man is a genius and is a future legend in horror along with Hatchet mastermind Adam Green.


                You're out of your mind.

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                • I wouldn't call Green a mastermind, but so far I've enjoyed his films. Overall Whedon >> Green.

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                  • Originally posted by NightmareWarrior View Post
                    Okay can we not be dissing Wheldon, the man is a genius and is a future legend in horror along with Hatchet mastermind Adam Green.

                    I'll explain it for people are didn't get it once again. Cabin is a smart horror film and I like that.

                    The Cabin In The Woods is a meta-filmish and a satire for the horror genre alot like Scream. While Scream makes fun of all the cliches, CITW bunches every horror cliche together.

                    In Cabin in the woods, the two people in the white shirts at the controls very much work as analogs for the filmmakers, even working as mouthpieces for Whedon and Goddard themselves.

                    They are expected to perform a service, to set up the same rote scenarios, manipulate the people into expected roles so that certain expectations will be met. Its not just enough that these people be killed, they need to be "punished". There needs to be sex, because as one man says to the other "We're not the only one's watching." While that line certainly applies to other people at the company who wait with bated breath for nudity, the line is more referring to the elder gods downstairs. The elder gods for whom these people are turned into archetypes, led to perform certain actions and the brutally killed off one by one, are the audience, both within the film and on a less literal comentary level are the audience as in us. Additionally, as much as the people at the controls want something different (Merman!) they find themselves limited to the same old thing (Zombie Redneck torture family!).

                    The Cabin In The Woods is a statement about horror. From the talk about how the Japanese have been doing it better than we have lately to the idea that the people watching are cheering on the deaths of characters who merely exist as stereotypes waiting to die. From the script writers placing these characters in cliche situations all the way to the movie's ending literally destroying all Horror movies and flat out saying "Now, someone take a shot at something new!!!" It's an examination and critique of Horror, and a call for more depth, better characterization, new ideas. It's also a critique of Horror fandom, as it slams us for demanding gratuitous nudity and becoming desensitized to the point of cheering when people are tortured and killed. These cliche ridden horror films are being made for a reason...the gods (us, and our money) demand them. It's time that we start to demand more, and thus the world of Horror is destroyed.

                    At the end of the film, when the world ends, it isn't our world, it isn't "Earth". It means the movie was not a success, the character's world ends because the audience (The Gods) didn't enjoy the movie, they wanted the cliched horror movie. It means it was a bomb and there'll be no sequel. The audience wasn't satisfied with the end of the horror film, we crave for the correct orders these stereotypes die and when that doesn't happen, we the audience get angry. The whore must die first followed by the athlete, the scholar, the fool and the virgin must be the last one alive to ether die or defeat the evil that these characters bring upon themselves. The fool (Marty) was still alive and we the audience wanted the "virgin" Dana to be the only survivor and that didn't happen.
                    For fucks sake Joss Whedon, we hated your fucking movie. Accept it.

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                    • Originally posted by Mogwai View Post
                      I've already lodged an official complaint to my local Hollywood MP. This radical dogmatist Whedon needs to be stopped and now. I'm not having him riding roughshod over us with his white sectarian agenda.
                      I would do the same, but I fear it might result in Whedon's overcompensative effort "Cabin in the Hood" (starring Marlon Wayans as the survivor girl and a fat-suited Martin Lawrence as the Ol' 'Un).

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                      • tried watching this again to try like it, but its still a fail for me.

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                        • Originally posted by NightmareWarrior View Post
                          Okay can we not be dissing Wheldon, the man is a genius and is a future legend in horror along with Hatchet mastermind Adam Green.


                          I liked Cabin but wake up dude. Hatchet is far from the work of a mastermind, the first is good, but the second is complete shit. Green isn't at all a good director. Two decent films and one pile of shit.

                          And Wheldon is going to be head deep in Marvel for then next few years so cut him out too. By the way, I didn't read past this point.
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                          • Well, CITW has now established itself as a horror constant, as writers, directors, and producers are referring to it in their advertising campaigns. Just the other day, I read something like "This movie is Cabin in the Woods meets Jacob's Ladder."

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                            • How can people not like this? It's one of the best horror films of the decade and possibly the greatest slasher of all time! Not only is it fun, but it's deep and works on so many levels. May the cabin live on!
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                              • Originally posted by horrorking95 View Post
                                How can people not like this? It's one of the best horror films of the decade and possibly the greatest slasher of all time! Not only is it fun, but it's deep and works on so many levels. May the cabin live on!


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