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  • #16
    Torture porn isn't even a genre. It's a term the media came up with to bash films that rely on gore/kill scenes over story. The general consensus is that the films offer kill scenes like porn film offer cumshots, with absolutely nothing of value in between. The only reason a 'plot' in a porn exists is to get to the next sex scene. Whereas in these shitty modern horror films it's to get to the next gore scene.

    For that reason I'd say Hostel isn't really torture porn as it doesn't operate in that way (even if I don't like the film). And really films like that existed heavily since the 80s. What are slasher movies but torture porn? They have absolutely no substance, are poorly made and offer nothing but a cool kill scene every now and again.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by depecheanix View Post
      Torture porn isn't even a genre. It's a term the media came up with to bash films that rely on gore/kill scenes over story. The general consensus is that the films offer kill scenes like porn film offer cumshots, with absolutely nothing of value in between. The only reason a 'plot' in a porn exists is to get to the next sex scene. Whereas in these shitty modern horror films it's to get to the next gore scene.

      For that reason I'd say Hostel isn't really torture porn as it doesn't operate in that way (even if I don't like the film). And really films like that existed heavily since the 80s. What are slasher movies but torture porn? They have absolutely no substance, are poorly made and offer nothing but a cool kill scene every now and again.
      This is pretty much what I said on the previous page. However the movies I suggested do contain both torture and porn.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KINGHORROR View Post
        This is pretty much what I said on the previous page. However the movies I suggested do contain both torture and porn.
        I think the media have definitely seen the films as they're spot on about how weak and substenceless these films are. The term torture porn doesn't refer to the films having a blend of sex and violence (which many seem to think it does).

        Though honestly I doubt the sort of critics that came up with the term have ever seen the sort of films you're talking about. I think they'd give up on horror altogether if they did. And who could blame them.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by depecheanix View Post
          Though honestly I doubt the sort of critics that came up with the term have ever seen the sort of films you're talking about. I think they'd give up on horror altogether if they did. And who could blame them.
          After seeing Tumbling Doll of Flesh I very nearly gave up on life not because it shocked but because....... How can people enjoy this shite? same with August Underground absolutely fucking terrible.

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          • #20
            you guys are right on the whole torture porn thing, but i think that glow was trying to say shes into movies with blood guts and sex, sometimes played out in the same time. at least if he's referring to films like hostel. and, hostel pales in comparison as far as shock value goes to many older flicks, so all he needs to do is show her some of those that we've already listed and it should be problem solved.
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            • #21
              Cries for help, so cute. Assuming your girlfriend isnt a piece of rabbit fur you rub on your dick. This is what Id do, next time your hitting it from behind, grab her by her hair rip her head back. Punch the bitch in the ribs and spit in her face and ask her she liked that.... Thats just what a gentleman would do.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by depecheanix View Post
                Torture porn isn't even a genre. It's a term the media came up with to bash films that rely on gore/kill scenes over story. The general consensus is that the films offer kill scenes like porn film offer cumshots, with absolutely nothing of value in between. The only reason a 'plot' in a porn exists is to get to the next sex scene. Whereas in these shitty modern horror films it's to get to the next gore scene.

                For that reason I'd say Hostel isn't really torture porn as it doesn't operate in that way (even if I don't like the film). And really films like that existed heavily since the 80s. What are slasher movies but torture porn? They have absolutely no substance, are poorly made and offer nothing but a cool kill scene every now and again.
                Indeedy. I'd say that the modern-day gorno/survival-horror fad is just the logical progression of the body-count/slasher film. They're essentially the same films but with gore sloshing around up to the hilt. Horror cinema has gone from the whodunnit to the giallo to the slasher to the gorno in just a few short decades. While not defending them, I'd say that movies like 'Saw' and 'Hostel' would, if made in the 1980s, be regarded today as horror classics by some BD members simply because of the gore effects. There's very little that separates them from some of the shit that got churned out in the 1980s, AFAICS.

                If Glow's girlfriend is looking for OTT splattery gore, I'll be somewhat predictable and suggest films like 'High Tension', 'Inside' and 'Frontier(s)' - if she can handle the subtitles, of course.
                Mayhem. In a boilersuit.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 5hitBum View Post
                  Cries for help, so cute. Assuming your girlfriend isnt a piece of rabbit fur you rub on your dick. This is what Id do, next time your hitting it from behind, grab her by her hair rip her head back. Punch the bitch in the ribs and spit in her face and ask her she liked that.... Thats just what a gentleman would do.
                  lmao very gentleman like
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Boilersuit_Mayhem View Post
                    There's very little that separates them from some of the shit that got churned out in the 1980s, AFAICS.
                    That's true. Especially the latter half of the 80s. I do find it amusing that people hate Saw so incredibly much yet Friday the 13th to many here is considered one of the best films in the genre... I mean really? F13th has less substance than Saw even and neither franchise is well made. Black Xmas and Halloween are the only slasher movies worth a damn in my mind.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by depecheanix View Post
                      That's true. Especially the latter half of the 80s. I do find it amusing that people hate Saw so incredibly much yet Friday the 13th to many here is considered one of the best films in the genre... I mean really? F13th has less substance than Saw even and neither franchise is well made. Black Xmas and Halloween are the only slasher movies worth a damn in my mind.
                      no way at least the first 3 friday the 13ths were pretty good, and hopefully we're talking the old black xmas the remake was a piece of shit.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mister fresh View Post
                        you guys are right on the whole torture porn thing, but i think that glow was trying to say shes into movies with blood guts and sex, sometimes played out in the same time. at least if he's referring to films like hostel. and, hostel pales in comparison as far as shock value goes to many older flicks, so all he needs to do is show her some of those that we've already listed and it should be problem solved.
                        I reckon this is what she considered a good "torture porn" movie. She hasn't any deep knowledge about horrormovies in general so I guess she just picked up on the bashing term of the new modern movies whit sex, violonce and blood just as Mister fresh stated.

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                        • #27
                          glow, i GAURANTEE you if you can get your hands on cannibal holocaust, she will never want to see a movie like that again bro.
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                          • #28
                            i have a copy of it i got from a bittorrent actually im not sure if it will work but if you gave me your email i may be able to send it to you.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mister fresh View Post
                              glow, i GAURANTEE you if you can get your hands on cannibal holocaust, she will never want to see a movie like that again bro.
                              Movie sucks!!!!!! Don't do it, it's an over rated, festering piece of shit.

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                              • #30
                                bullshit! it was way ahead of its time and one of the best pieces of shock cinema ever produced.
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