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  • #16
    Originally posted by IV_Tear116
    Hey Syko, I have a question...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A455-2112

    Is that motherboard any good?? I know you said Asus are good, but is that one too cheap? I've seen ranges all the way up to like $800, and would that be like top top top of the line, or would that one above be a pretty good one?

    Oh yeah, and I forgot, if I could every find my XP disk, could I install that on a new computer, or should I just... Obtain it by other means...

    That looks like an excellent board to me mate. Room for some heavy duty expansion on there with the RAID controller and Serial ATA in addition to the standard IDE channels. Lots of nice extra features.

    You can't fall off with ASUS boards anyway, they are the Rolls Royce of motherboards.

    As for your XP disc, it depends. Is it a standard Windows XP disc or did it come in with a PC? If it came with a PC, the chances are it will only install on that model of PC. On the other hand if it's a standard disc not afilliated with any PC brands it should be fine. The way to check if you're not sure is to stick it in your disc drive and reboot your PC. You should get a message saying Press any key to boot from CD... and then it'll take you into a blue and white text (DOS) screen - you can do this safely without worry of wiping your PC, just take the CD out and reboot before it asks to where to install windows or asks about disc partitioning. If it does something different to this you'll need to get your mits on another copy. And make sure you get the CD Key to go with it. It's happened to me before where you get half way through installing Windows and it asks you for a CD Key and you either don't have one or the one you have is wrong!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sykopaf
      That looks like an excellent board to me mate. Room for some heavy duty expansion on there with the RAID controller and Serial ATA in addition to the standard IDE channels. Lots of nice extra features.

      You can't fall off with ASUS boards anyway, they are the Rolls Royce of motherboards.

      As for your XP disc, it depends. Is it a standard Windows XP disc or did it come in with a PC? If it came with a PC, the chances are it will only install on that model of PC. On the other hand if it's a standard disc not afilliated with any PC brands it should be fine. The way to check if you're not sure is to stick it in your disc drive and reboot your PC. You should get a message saying Press any key to boot from CD... and then it'll take you into a blue and white text (DOS) screen - you can do this safely without worry of wiping your PC, just take the CD out and reboot before it asks to where to install windows or asks about disc partitioning. If it does something different to this you'll need to get your mits on another copy. And make sure you get the CD Key to go with it. It's happened to me before where you get half way through installing Windows and it asks you for a CD Key and you either don't have one or the one you have is wrong!

      Hah, thanks.. I am not really sure about the XP disk... I have no clue where it went, but it came with our dell (I know I know... But we needed one a few years ago...) So if I can find it, I'll check it out. Thanks for all the help though bro, I probably will have a few more questions, but none as of now. Thanks again Syko, this is a great thread.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by IV_Tear116
        Hah, thanks.. I am not really sure about the XP disk... I have no clue where it went, but it came with our dell (I know I know... But we needed one a few years ago...) So if I can find it, I'll check it out. Thanks for all the help though bro, I probably will have a few more questions, but none as of now. Thanks again Syko, this is a great thread.
        No problem. I can pretty much garuntee if the XP disc came with a Dell though, that it'll only work on a Dell PC. All the ones I've come across at work have worked that way.

        Anytime man. I don't prefess to know everything but a lot of people in IT treat their knowledge like a closely guarded secret, gives them a sense of security I suppose. I prefer to to help people do things for themselves, I respect people with the initiative to want to learn rather than have other people do stuff for them all the time.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sykopaf
          No problem. I can pretty much garuntee if the XP disc came with a Dell though, that it'll only work on a Dell PC. All the ones I've come across at work have worked that way.

          Anytime man. I don't prefess to know everything but a lot of people in IT treat their knowledge like a closely guarded secret, gives them a sense of security I suppose. I prefer to to help people do things for themselves, I respect people with the initiative to want to learn rather than have other people do stuff for them all the time.
          You've gotten me interested in doing this, so I thank you for being willing to share your knowledge on computers. I am really set on doing this actually, I am looking at different brands and models for everything... Do you prefer ATI or Nvidia? I was looking at an ATI video card, and you have more knowledge on this subject than I do, so I was hoping to get your opinion... And also, for each part (RAM, Motherboard, graphics card, etc.) could you give an estimate for how much each would cost.. What I am getting at is (Hopefully you can do $, but if you do pounds, that is fine as well).

          To kind of give an idea of what I mean:

          Graphics cards:
          Higher end: $___-$____
          Middle: $___-$____

          Something like that? Just so I have an idea of how much I'd have to spend if I do start getting money soon to invest on this. Thanks again bro, this is all helping out loads!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by IV_Tear116
            You've gotten me interested in doing this, so I thank you for being willing to share your knowledge on computers. I am really set on doing this actually, I am looking at different brands and models for everything... Do you prefer ATI or Nvidia? I was looking at an ATI video card, and you have more knowledge on this subject than I do, so I was hoping to get your opinion... And also, for each part (RAM, Motherboard, graphics card, etc.) could you give an estimate for how much each would cost.. What I am getting at is (Hopefully you can do $, but if you do pounds, that is fine as well).

            To kind of give an idea of what I mean:

            Graphics cards:
            Higher end: $___-$____
            Middle: $___-$____

            Something like that? Just so I have an idea of how much I'd have to spend if I do start getting money soon to invest on this. Thanks again bro, this is all helping out loads!

            First up I'd highly recommend if this is your first PC to find a little PC shop where the staff know what they're talking about (rather than just want to get a sale) and buy your parts from there as they'll know if there's any compatibility problems between the different parts your getting. It will cost you a little more than buying on line but it's a bit extra peace of mind, and a lot easier to take things back if you have a problem with anything.

            I've only ever had one ATI card and that was a loooong time ago so I couldn't fairly compare the two. I usually stick to nVidia purely because most games you play recommend nVidia.

            This is a shop near me where I buy most of my parts (I know the staff and they give me a discount because of the amount of business I send their way): http://www.ad-computers.co.uk

            If you go into the design a system link it has three systems and lists the parts in each. Thats a good reference for what you want to aim for depending on what you want to use the end PC for. Obviously the High End PC is the best but the most expensive too.

            I'm trying to find American sites that sell PC parts but they all list the products they sell and tell you to call for prices!! I've never seen anything like it, what's the point in having a catalogue on the web if they don't have prices?! Check www.ebuyer.com for prices, they're an english based company but have a store in the US too.

            RAM - you want to buy DDR RAM. At least 512Mb but ideally 1Gb or more (I have 1Gb in mine and it runs even the most demanding games smoothly).

            Motherboard - I'd stick with the ASUS board you have there. If you're going to start getting into building, you'll probably find that once you have your PC built you want to see what else it can do, and that motherboard has a load of extra features you can play with. You may find ASRock are cheaper though if it ends up getting too pricey for you.

            Processor - basing it on the above motherboard you need an AMD Athalon processor. I have the Athalon 3200 64Bit and it's the bollocks.

            Hard drive - You can spend as little or as much as you want on this depending on brand and size (for your main hard drive you want an internal IDE drive, but your board will also support SATA as additional drives). This is one I'd highly recommend:
            http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uct_uid=220225

            Video card - the above board supports PCI Express gfx cards, so you don't have a lot of choice but to buy a good one. If you wanted to save a bit of money and go for an AGP card (which will be out of date very soon remember) you'll need to buy a board that supports AGP. Here's and example of a good PCI Express gfx card:
            http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uct_uid=155376

            Sound card - you don't have to worry about, there's sound on the motherboard.

            DVD/CD drives - they don't vary much in price. If you're going for a DVD writer I can recommend from experience Pioneer drivers and I have a Lite On drive in at the moment that's good too.

            Monitor - probably the most expensive single part of your PC, you don't have to worry about compatibility so shop around on the net and find a good price for one. If you're not bothered about size and shape go for a CRT monitor (the big boxy type) as they'll be significantly cheaper and I think a better quality picture too. TFT are all the rage at the moment though simply because they're slim and look good on your desk.

            The rest of the stuff like case, speakers, keyboard and mouse, it all depends what you want. You can pay pennies for them if you're not bothered how they look or daft amounts of money for all singing all dancing ones. Again just shop around to see what's available. I wouldn't pay a fortune for a keyboard and mouse that have a load of extra features though as you'll probably never use them!

            Hope that helps.

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            • #21
              Man, all this help is wonderful bro, thank you. I printed up a 30 page tutorial, just so I can kinda have an idea of what I am getting myself into. Plus we have a few computer stores about an hour away that would be good, so I think maybe I'll start on this in a few months or so. I have about 3-4 catalogs from www.tigerdirect.com and so I have a good idea on some prices, but I am not sure what to go off of, because (we'll go off of processors) The AMD Athlon 64 3000+ socket 939 64-bit retail box CPU is $139, but the AMD Athlon 64 FX57 Socket 939 .... Is $1,049. I am expect that those are the extremes for the Athlon in prices, and I'd probably want to get one in the middle. But ***Noob question*** I could only buy one that would be compatable with my motherboard, correct???

              Thanks Syko, I am really hoping this gets other people to start posting... I mean, hell... Look at what it did to me
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              • #22
                My motherboard:

                http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/mb7506.htm

                My system info:


                my graphic card:


                ...whats the maximum processor I can have on this motherboard ?
                ..I need a bigger one cause when I install Adobe premiere 7.0 pro ...it says that it dont support the processor...its strange cause I can play the pretty new game "Fear" without problems....I know that my motherboard is old but it has to be pretty good cause it was produced in 2000....

                ...so whats the biggest processor I can have on this mothercard ?
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                • #23
                  On the board specs this is what it says about processor support:

                  AMD-K7 Athlon, Duron Processors
                  Athlon XP (version 1.3 motherboard req.)

                  So you want to be getting an Athalon XP processor (providing you have version 1.3 of the motherboard).

                  I think the biggest Athalon XP processor made was the 3200+. Unfortunately they're no longer made and all the new processors that you'll easily find in shops won't go in your motherboard.

                  Saying that the XP range isn't that old so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding one on the net.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sykopaf
                    On the board specs this is what it says about processor support:

                    AMD-K7 Athlon, Duron Processors
                    Athlon XP (version 1.3 motherboard req.)

                    So you want to be getting an Athalon XP processor (providing you have version 1.3 of the motherboard).
                    where do I see what version motherboard is...(1.3)? ...do I have to flash bios and install new drives ? .....thats difficult ...
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                    • #25
                      So i dual booted windows xp with ubuntu linux. im loving linux so far, its my first time.

                      However i have two issues that id like to solve.

                      First is, my mouse sometimes freaks out. it will just whip around the screen and click on shit. mostly the trash program. I have no idea why, and it really pisses me off. does the button get stuck? is there a moust driver issue? is it the physical mouse ?

                      second, i cant get dvds to play, ive downloaded a few programs. ive turned on my nvidia graphic support. Ive opened the restricted resources. i get an error each time saying soemthing about nav packet cant be found or something.

                      anyone have any idea?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GoreGIrl
                        So i dual booted windows xp with ubuntu linux. im loving linux so far, its my first time.

                        However i have two issues that id like to solve.

                        First is, my mouse sometimes freaks out. it will just whip around the screen and click on shit. mostly the trash program. I have no idea why, and it really pisses me off. does the button get stuck? is there a moust driver issue? is it the physical mouse ?

                        second, i cant get dvds to play, ive downloaded a few programs. ive turned on my nvidia graphic support. Ive opened the restricted resources. i get an error each time saying soemthing about nav packet cant be found or something.

                        anyone have any idea?
                        I'm no expert on Linux but I have run RedHat and SuSe for a while. The problem being that the applications are constantly in beta version as they're written by the Linux community so you can always find sometimes fairly big bugs without looking too far.

                        If the mouse works OK in XP but not Linux then it's a Linux problem rather than a hardware problem in which case all you can do is report it and hope someone will write a fix.

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                        • #27
                          Thank you syko! I was thinking id have to do that. cause it does work fine in xp. blast!


                          i think because its a microsoft mouse, linux gets all pissed at it , and tries to get it off the screen lol
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                          • #28
                            i have a prob thats pissing me off can someone help ,, my pc keeps restarting its self every now and again,, cheers if you can help

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Nightbreed
                              i have a prob thats pissing me off can someone help ,, my pc keeps restarting its self every now and again,, cheers if you can help
                              It could be a few things.

                              1) A virus. Install a virus checker and make sure it's up to date.
                              2) A hardware fault. If it's restarting during games it's probably your graphics card thats fucked. If it's crashing at random times it'll likely be some dodgy memory or maybe your motherboard. Also check to make sure the fan is working on your processor. Your PC may shut itself down when the processor gets too hot.
                              3) It could be something as simple as Automatic Updates. If you have them switched on they sometimes restart the PC once they've installed themselves.

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                              • #30
                                not virus mate i have upto date norton
                                not know about memory i have a one year old sony vaio with split hard disc drive c 27.9 gb only used 10 gb drive . d drive 83.8 used only 1 gb plus an external drive E that 233 gb used 64.
                                updates on auto
                                so iam going with over heat as iam on this 24/7
                                i do run adware and pc tools reg mec could they be my prob?
                                also dude how do i check for overheating is there a way ? ( i can hear fan lol)thx

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