The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[Heretic]

Put it this way. With BB and TDK, I can count on one hand how many "iffy" moments are in them. With TDKR, I would lose count. Sure, you could pick apart BB and TDK if you really tried, but with TDKR, you wouldn't have to try. It would be effortless.

I'm not saying it's a bad movie(and I'm still hoping it will get better the more I watch it), but I don't know how anyone(especially fans of the franchise), can ignore the vast amount of problems and inconsistancies with this one, compared to the previous two.

If Nolan came out and said "This is going to be way different, and have more of an anything goes, over the top comicbook feel to it. Logic is thrown out the window", I would look at TDKR in a different light. He didn't though, so I can only conclude that Nolan kind of dropped the ball with this one. He got a bit lazy in the writing process, and cared a lot less about connecting all the dots.

[Justin_Voorhees]

Originally Posted by Heretic

Put it this way. With BB and TDK, I can count on one hand how many "iffy" moments are in them. With TDKR, I would lose count. Sure, you could pick apart BB and TDK if you really tried, but with TDKR, you wouldn't have to try. It would be effortless.

I'm not saying it's a bad movie(and I'm still hoping it will get better the more I watch it), but I don't know how anyone(especially fans of the franchise), can ignore the vast amount of problems and inconsistancies with this one, compared to the previous two.

If Nolan came out and said "This is going to be way different, and have more of an anything goes, over the top comicbook feel to it. Logic is thrown out the window", I would look at TDKR in a different light. He didn't though, so I can only conclude that Nolan kind of dropped the ball with this one. He got a bit lazy in the writing process, and cared a lot less about connecting all the dots.

You can't but I don't think they are as big as people make them out to be. If Nolan had added a few small scenes explaining why these things happened I don't think there would be as many people complaining.
Even with these problems I still find this to be a better movie than Batman Begins.
The scope of the movie is huge and sucked me in the entire time. I even turned into a little girl at the end and teared up a bit.
I had lots of big problems with the Avengers too while watching it for the 1st time but it never stopped me from loving every second of it.

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by Justin_Voorhees

You can't but I don't think they are as big as people make them out to be. If Nolan had added a few small scenes explaining why these things happened I don't think there would be as many people complaining.

That's just it. We've come to expect perfection from Nolan, so when he gives us something less than perfect, it's glaring. His standards and extreme attention to detail, just wasn't there with TDKR

[Santa]

Originally Posted by Heretic

If Nolan came out and said "This is going to be way different, and have more of an anything goes, over the top comicbook feel to it. Logic is thrown out the window", I would look at TDKR in a different light. He didn't though, so I can only conclude that Nolan kind of dropped the ball with this one.

True dat. Like Shape assumed, there is that comicbook-like feel in it. But we are pretty much being left alone with it, kind of being extradited with it - which is not a good thing.

Originally Posted by Heretic

He got a bit lazy in the writing process, and cared a lot less about connecting all the dots.

We don't precisely know why he left so many crucial points in his movie unattended. Maybe he had bad screenwriters and couldn't correct it in the shooting process and/or the pressure of the production was to damn high. We only can assume. But naturally he isn't that sloppy with his work, quite on the contrary.

[The Revelator]

Originally Posted by Heretic

That's just it. We've come to expect perfection from Nolan, so when he gives us something less than perfect, it's glaring. His standards and extreme attention to detail, just wasn't there with TDKR

Exactly. Tiny little things or even just dialogue could have been added that clear some of this up. Too bad he didn't do that.

[Klown]

Originally Posted by The Revelator

Exactly. Tiny little things or even just dialogue could have been added that clear some of this up. Too bad he didn't do that.

While it might clear a few things up, the big holes aren't going to be just explained away. A few more issues I have...

What about the Wayne Industries workers who discovered that Bruce had fixed the autopilot? Do they just get paid off or what?

How does Bruce live the rest of his life hiding away? He's an extremely famous billionaire. Won't someone notice him?

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by Klown

How does Bruce live the rest of his life hiding away? He's an extremely famous billionaire. Won't someone notice him?

It's just a matter of where he disappeared to. I don't think France would be the best of options, if you want to keep a low profile. Let alone, settle down with someone who is on Gotham's most wanted list.

I was actually hoping he would just be in exile somewhere, right back where he started. They just had to make Alfred's dream come true though.

[Klown]

Originally Posted by Heretic

It's just a matter of where he disappeared to. I don't think France would be the best of options, if you want to keep a low profile. Let alone, settle down with someone who is on Gotham's most wanted list.

I was actually hoping he would just be in exile somewhere, right back where he started. They just had to make Alfred's dream come true though.

That's true. I guess seeing him in a busy café in France just didn't make a lot of sense, but it was Alfred's dream. Perhaps he is living elsewhere and just came to see Alfred?

[Freddy_Lives]

Originally Posted by Klown

That's true. I guess seeing him in a busy café in France just didn't make a lot of sense, but it was Alfred's dream. Perhaps he is living elsewhere and just came to see Alfred?

My other problem with the film has to be the escape sure he bailed in time but how the hell did he do it when the blast radius was 6 miles unless he had an escape pod that was REALLY FAST.

Another problem don't you think Bane since it was his prison would have said DON'T LET BRUCE WAYNE OUT????? Sure he may have thought no chance in hell but it was his prison apparently paying off the doctor.

The film has flaws but overwhelmingly awesome.

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by Freddy_Lives

My other problem with the film has to be the escape sure he bailed in time but how the hell did he do it when the blast radius was 6 miles unless he had an escape pod that was REALLY FAST.

Ya know, that is all that would've been needed, to make that escape believable. Just a quick scene with Wayne and Fox exploring the interior of the flying hunk of garbage, and have Fox comment on an aquatic escape pod, in case he gets into trouble.