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Old 08-22-2008, 02:15 PM   #3461
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lesnar will beat mir in a rematch...in the herring fight you could see he was more focused and calm compared to the mir fight
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:26 PM   #3462
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id like to see a lesnar mir rematch
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lesnar will beat mir in a rematch...in the herring fight you could see he was more focused and calm compared to the mir fight
Lesnar would be a huge favorite but one mistake could cost him the fight again though. Thats what makes guys like Mir so dangerous. I would like to see it
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:41 PM   #3463
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yeah thats true...just like when sapp fought nog...sapp beat the hell out of nog...then he got subbed..although sapp is all strength and not much skills compared to lesnar
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yeah thats true...just like when sapp fought nog...sapp beat the hell out of nog...then he got subbed..although sapp is all strength and not much skills compared to lesnar
No one takes a beating like Nog. "Nogeuira has never lost a fight, he just runs out of time." I forget who said that but I love it. Dude would fight you to the death if he could. The one person you can legitimately say can never be counted out. One of my favorite fighters ever. His fighting spirit and the level of respect he treats the sport and his opponents with is beautiful. Truly one of the greatest champs MMA could ever have.

We need Nog-Fedor with no time limits.

I hope we get to see Lesnar-Nog at some point when Lesnar is a little more developed. I think he would get caught if the fight happened now but in 1.5-2 years it may be a different story
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:35 PM   #3465
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KJ Noons' manager says Nick Diaz not top contender, scoffs at EliteXC deadline

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by John Morgan on Aug 21, 2008 at 4:50 pm ET
With the clock ticking for 160-pound champion KJ Noons' EliteXC-issued 5 p.m. PT deadline to sign a bout agreement to face Nick Diaz on an Oct. 4 CBS broadcast, the situation appears at an impasse.

Noons' manager Mark Dion today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) he is unconcerned with EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw's demands.

"The update on [the deadline] is nothing is going to happen with it," Dion said. "That's what's going to happen with that. I don't care about how many threats [Shaw] wants to pull. We'll be doing a press conference if EliteXC doesn't see the light here pretty soon and if Shaw doesn't stop talking [expletive]."

While Shaw has claimed he's been unable to reach Noons or Dion -- while also hinting that Noons and Dion may have issues with his contract and pay -- Dion said the sticking point is the choice of opponent.

"As far as Nick Diaz, he's not the No. 1 contender out there," Dion said. "To [EliteXC] he is. He's the number one (for getting) eyeballs to (watch) them. They're pushing on eyeballs versus a career move for a champion like KJ. KJ is really not the one who gets anything out of the fight. Diaz does and so does ProElite."

Dion said if the situation between Noons and EliteXC does not improve, he will hold a press conference to bring the particulars of the debate to light.

"We'll do a press conference to discuss everything," Dion said. "But there's nothing in it for KJ unless [EliteXC] finally wakes up a little bit. That's why we'll have a press conference. I don't like to talk and beat a company that's already beat down. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully they'll see the light."

Dion insisted that in Noons' fight for widespread recognition, the champion only wants to fight the best EliteXC can possibly offer.

"I would think Eddie Alvarez is the No. 1 contender," Dion said. "He's definitely ranked higher than Nick Diaz. KJ already beat Nick Diaz."

While Alvarez is currently unavailable due to taking personal time off, Dion does not feel that is reason to arrange a rematch with Diaz.

"Eddie Alvarez is getting married, but that's not our problem," Dion said. "People get married in five or 10 minutes."

Detractors of Dion have pointed out that it was the City Boxing owner's negotiating tactics that kept former client Brandon Vera out of the UFC for nearly a year. Dion counters by explaining that situation resulted in a huge windfall for Vera.

"Look at Brandon Vera," Dion said. "He had a long layoff, but he's making more money than the No. 1 ranked [expletive] fighter in the world, Anderson Silva -- or the same amount.

"And now Anderson Silva is getting Bud Light sponsorships from (UFC President) Dana (White) handed down to him. He's getting to fight at 205 (pounds). He's kind of telling them what he wants to do. Why? Because you got people like Brandon Vera, who's on a losing streak and not performing, making more money than the most valuable guy.

"Who do you think negotiated that [expletive] contract a year and a half ago? And if you look at my Post-it, the one I negotiated was a $7 million deal for four years. It's nothing close to [$100,000] and [$100,000] (as a win bonus). As far as trying to bring in the Mark Dion negatives and stuff, good luck. Show me any negatives on it. And that's just a pitch [EliteXC] can use. But hey, I know my [expletive]. I've been around this sport a long, long time."

In the end, Dion insists it is important for observers to realize his role in the negotiation process.

"I don't bend over for nobody, and I don't let my fighters do it," Dion said. "I'm not a booking agent. I don't book my fighters and schmooze deals to work for the promoters. I work for my fighters."

And Dion has a message for anyone watching closely as Shaw's deadline nears.

"Forget 5 o'clock," Dion said. "I ain't waiting until 5 o'clock. If [EliteXC officials] are holding their breath, then someone's going to pass out."


I hope KJ realizes how damaging this is for his image. Nobody likes a champion who ducks people, no matter how deserving they are. Diaz must be laughing his ass off at all this.
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The Sep 10th WEC card is now official. I think everyone already knows about these fights (except maybe Maeda and Yayha) but we couldn't possibly talk about the WEC enough. Best matchmaking in the sport and easily the second best org.

145 lbs.: WEC Featherweight Champion Urijah ” The California Kid” Faber (21-1) vs. Mike Brown (19-4)
185 lbs.: WEC Middleweight Champion Paulo Filho (16-0) vs. Chael Sonnen (22-9-1)
155 lbs.: “Razor” Rob McCullough (16-4) vs. Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone (8-0)
145 lbs.: Jens ” Little Evil” Pulver (22-9-1) vs Leonard Garcia (15-3)
135 lbs.: Rani Yahya (12-4) vs. Yoshiro Maeda (23-5-2)

185 lbs.: Jake Rosholt (4-0) vs. Danillo Villefort (8-2)
170 lbs.: Alex Serdyukov (12-4) vs. Johny Hendricks (3-0)
205 lbs.: Tim McKenzie (12-5) vs. David Avellan (2-0)
155 lbs.: Ed Ratcliff (6-1) vs. Danny Castillo (5-1)

The undercard is good but the televised portion is ridiculous. I would be happy about paying $45 for this card but we get it for free. Particularly excited about McCullough-Cerrone. Huge man crush on Cerrone.

I the WEC.
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The WEC just gets better. They have just signed Wagney Fabiano. A phenomonal featherweight with some of the best bjj I have seen in mma and striking thats catching up to it. He will be fighting Faber in the not too distant future.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:36 PM   #3468
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That WEC card is damn nice, Cerrone has very nice subs. Also looking forward to see more of Rosholt. Fabiano vs Lierley is the only fight with Fabiano i've seen but damn its a pretty good fight. I think he'll be a good fight for Faber.
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:47 PM   #3469
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gomi is finally fighting again tomorrow in sengoku 4...i'd like to see him fight some of the better fighters at lw...maybe he'll fight in dream sometime in the future
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:16 AM   #3470
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mmaweekly has kimbo slice vs brett rodgers as a rumor for oct 4. bye bye kimbo if that is the case
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