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‘Jason Lives’ Director Reveals He Pitched Sequel “Jason vs. Cheech and Chong”!

The franchise almost got *real* weird in the late ’80s!

Director Tom McLoughlin was the man tasked with bringing Jason Voorhees back to life for Friday the 13th Part 6: Jason Lives, and he did so in a way that ensured the sixth installment in the franchise would go on to become one of the most beloved. McLoughlin didn’t return for the seventh film, but there was a time when he was approached to.

Speaking with fellow horror director Mick Garris on the latest episode of Garris’ podcast Post Mortem, McLoughlin revealed his wacky pitch for a Jason Lives follow-up!

[Producer] Frank Mancuso Jr. came to me… he wanted me to do another film after we did [Jason Lives],” McLoughlin recalled. “He said, ‘What do you think about Freddy and Jason?’ And I go, ‘But Freddy is at New Line.’ He came back and goes, ‘Ah forget it, it’s not gonna work anyway.’ So I said, ‘Ya know what… you guys own Cheech and Chong. What if we do Cheech and Chong Meets Jason?’

He continued, “But [Frank] said, ‘Ya know what… no – the comedy audience is gonna want that kind of movie, the horror audience is gonna want the other… no, we can’t.’

Instead, McLoughlin went on to write/direct a few episodes of “Friday the 13th: The Series.” As for the seventh film, well, Jason essentially ended up battling Carrie White.

But hey, Part 3‘s Chuck was basically a bootleg Tommy Chong, so at least we got that!



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  • Travis_Bickle

    Two things I love in this world are Friday the 13th, and Cheech and Chong. I would have been STOKED if they made a crossover. Hell…I hope it still happens!

  • Jason Lives is the best in the series, but this would’ve been going too far into comedy territory. I’m glad The New Blood (1988) was made instead. It was the last truly good Friday the 13th film.

    Part 8-10 were bad. The crossover was good, except for the human drama (which made up a large chunk of the film). And, of course, the 2009 reboot was mediocre. The leaked script for the cancelled 2017 reboot was horrendous.

    An excellent question that comes up repeatedly in the fanbase is “How hard is it to make another good Friday the 13th film?”

    • Saturn

      If, when the reboot happens, the new Jason movie is going to be in the original timeline, I would hope that it picks up after New Blood, and totally ignores what came afterwards,
      There has been a dream scenario going around for a while which would bring back several of the final girls to the franchise, for the fans, to have another toe to toe with Jason – if done well, and respectfully, it could work quite well.
      Perhaps Tommy Jarvis is now head Camp Councillor at the newly re-opened Camp Crystal Lake, and has invited said final girls to it’s grand re-opening, as a way for them to finally face their demons and move on with their lives – like he himself finally has.
      But, during a stupid hazing style prank, a group of the teenagers at the camp make the mistake of desecrating a grave.
      HIS grave…….

      • BreeBennett

        OMG!! That would be awesome!

  • Mike Timko

    It wouldn’t have been any worse than sending Jason to space.

    • I’m not so sure that the general concept of Jason going to space is bad. They could have easily made it claustrophobic and terrifying by having them trapped in space with Jason and nowhere to run, especially with Kane Hodder in the role.

      The problem is that the movie in general was bad. The only reason we think of “horror icons in space” as goofy and gimmicky is because the movies were it happens are usually exactly that.

      • Rake

        There are too many steps to believably get Jason into space. And he just doesn’t belong there, same with Myers, I don’t even think they fit in in cities. Pinhead in space is perfect though.

        • If they could come up with a believable reason, I think the space setting could have worked to Jason X‘s advantage. Sadly, the movie was just bad and didn’t even try to be scary.

          I mean, could you imagine being trapped on a spaceship with Jason Voorhees and nowhere to run? That would be almost as terrifying as being in one with a Xenomorph.

          • Rake

            I would be too busy trying to figure out why Jason was on the spaceship to be terrified. An abandoned prison or something like that would be more interesting. You could probably lock any door in a spaceship and Jason or Myers are not getting through. I think the overabundance of technology on a space craft doesn’t mesh with characters like Leatherface, Myers, and Jason.

          • Well, obviously the movie would provide an explanation. It’s not like it would just open with Jason already on the spaceship mid-kill. And one thing that the space setting has that the prison scenario doesn’t is the sense of sheer isolation of outer space (something films like the original Alien have used to their advantage). And Friday the 13th has always played loose with logic. Even the 2009 reboot failed hard at being realistic.

            But really, I don’t think it even matters. At the end of the day, Jason X happened and didn’t even try to be remotely scary. It tried to go the “fun” route, and most of us agree that it didn’t quite hit the mark.

          • Rake

            I want the explanation. Provide it immediately.
            Also, Crystal Lake without a cellphone is sheer isolation.

          • “I want the explanation. Provide it immediately.”

            *Facepalm*

          • Rake

            Not an argument.

          • No, you came at me apparently expecting me to hand you a screenplay treatment, and then you said “Crystal Lake without a cellphone is sheer isolation” as if a forest in New Jersey somehow compares to a claustrophobic ship in the vacuum of space.

            But since you want me to give you a potential scenerio (when any out of a 100 would probably work), here’s one – After spending years trying to execute the unkillable Jason Voorhees using every means possible, the FBI decides to dispose of him in the only way they know how. In attempt to make sure nothing fails, they send a team into space (albeit not deep space) with the intention of launching Jason out of the ship. However, Jason escapes from containment and cuts all power to the ship with only a limited supply of air left. With no time to waste, they essentially spend the entire movie trying to survive and figure out a way to restore power and call for help, as they also try to outrun Jason Voorhees long enough, with nowhere to hide on a ship of limited size.

            This plotline gives an explanation that’s plausible enough for a franchise like Friday the 13th, it sets up a “ticking time bomb” plot device, and provides plenty of room for fear and suspense.

          • Saturn

            Although (heavily) flawed, I do have a soft spot for Jason X and would like to see sequels to that movie, on Earth 2. Hell, perhaps a tv show on SyFy could work.

            Aside from who owns the rights to the franchise, I can see no reason why we can’t have new Jason movies which go back to the original timeline, or even the remake, AND a tv show that uses the Jason X timeline.

          • They did a pretty fun comic book sequel to Jason X.

          • Saturn

            I seem to remember reading a couple of them, one was Jason Vs Jason X it my memory is correct.

          • That was one of them. The Jason vs. Jason X miniseries was a sequel to the one-shot Jason X Special. Although they were admittedly light on story, they were good fan service.

            Incidentally, there was also a series of Jason X novels, but I have read those (they are out-of-print and ultra-expensive).

          • Saturn

            I suppose they could have gone down the route of Jason being in an induced coma, and experiments being done on him while on board the I.S.S., to try and find out what about his DNA is so special, that gives him regenerative properties.

            Or perhaps Jason is dead, and his body has been stolen by Russian operatives and the idea is similar when it comes to DNA, but they want to use his DNA code to breed a race of super soldiers – and the only place they can do so, without the risk of exposure, is on their secret Moon base. But sadly for them (but not for us) he awakens……

          • Saturn

            Alien Vs Jason.
            Or Jason X Vs Predator.

            If done right, both could be a lotta fun – but I’d expect they’d work better in comic book form.

  • The chicken man

    Thank every God this didn’t happen.

    And no, I will watch space Jason all day long before this nutzo idea.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    Thank goodness the franchise got away from this guy. Jason Lives used to be my least favorite entry in the series until probably about five years ago. Took me over 25 years to develop an appreciation for it. Had McLoughlin been attached to Jason much longer we would’ve seen Voorhees doing Monty Python bits and somebody would’ve made a dead girlfriend for him to fall in love with, etc. Guaranteed Tom’s Cheech and Chong idea was inspired by Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. I appreciate his passion for classic horror films and the like, but that’s not what Friday was about. Jason Lives is where the franchise went from plausible disbelief to a full-on cartoon series and completely stopped being scary.

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  • TheMuppetManiac

    I just don’t see how that would’ve been good. You couldn’t have Jason kill them, so there would be no real threat. You would’ve made Jason a joke and killed the franchise.

  • Baron Von Marlon

    I’d watch it. In this day and age, it sounds kinda refreshing.
    That being said, I’d love a proper horror parody involving Jason, Freddy,…

  • Thank God it wasn’t made

  • Alanmac

    Love Jason and love Cheech & Chong, but together? No thanks. The Friday films became pretty much laughable through the years and this would’ve made it MUCH worse. Thank goodness for the 2009 reboot which, imo, saved the franchise.

  • Nicolas Caiveau

    I have never heard about Cheech and Chong. Is that thing popular ?

    • Kristoffer Groves

      :O

      • Nicolas Caiveau

        I’m French. Not every single American movies were released here^^ Well maybe Cheech & Chong were… But they probably didn’t do well here as I really never heard about them. Some cult American movies don’t do well here. Adam Sandler is not very well known here for example.

        • Kristoffer Groves

          Cheech & Chong were very popular in the 70s and 80s. You should watch them. The best movies are Up In Smoke, Nice Dreams, Next Movie, Things Are Tough All Over, and Still Smokin’.

          • Nicolas Caiveau

            Thanks a lot for the recommendations 🙂 I’m gonna check them, I don’t like being unaware of something like this^^

  • Luca Vasto

    i haven’t heard about Cheech and Chong, but Jason Lives is one of my favourite movie ever!!!!!!!!!! Tom make an amazing job

  • Travis Ignaffo

    I’ve heard it all now. Id rather see Jason meets Kim-jun-ung or whatever that North Korean man child is called.

  • Jonathan Larsson

    These days, I would’ve preferred to see a Jason vs the cast of Superbad.

  • Riding The Bus With Spooks

    JASON VS KANYE. JASON VS CHARLIE ROSE. JASON VS DAVE CHAPPELLE. JASON VS OJ. JASON VS NIGHT OF THE LIVING ODOM’S.

  • Baron Von Marlon

    How about a Friday the 13th movie with Ice Cube, Chris Tucker, Mike Epps, John Witherspoon,…

    • Kristoffer Groves

      Deebo gonna whoop Jason’ ass.

      • Baron Von Marlon

        Because he’s mad he got blamed for Jason’s murders.

  • AdamX

    Jay and Silent Bob meet Pinhead…what is this generations stoners meet slasher rumor? Harold and Kumar meet the Babadook?

    • Kristoffer Groves

      Abbi & Ilana vs Jigsaw

      • AdamX

        I forgot the 90’s, The Half Baked crew vs Candyman.

  • Adam Nixon

    People can trash-talk this all they’d want… I’d have watched the HELL out of “Cheech & Chong Meet Jason”, hahah! Screw it, it would have probably been better than everything else that came after “Jason Lives”, anyways…

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