[Weekend Poll] ‘Kick-Ass’ VS. ‘Super’!!!

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In 2010 we had Matthew Vaughn’s Kick-Ass. In 2011 James Gunn’s Super clobbered us with a wrench. While there are some obvious similarities between the two films – both explore vigilante behavior via the conceit of “a real person dressed as superhero” and both are in turns funny and dark and incredibly gory – they have more differences than many people think. Vaughn’s film almost seems to endorse vigilante behavior. It pays lip service to the psychological damage Big Daddy imparts on Hit Girl, but that’s not really where its heart lies. After all, Dave is a pretty normal guy who ends up getting the girl and flying around on a jetpack at the end.

That’s not at all how it goes down in Gunn’s Super. Rainn Wilson’s Frank Darbo is incredibly damaged. He’s already got some issues (he constantly perseverates over his two “perfect” moments) but when his wife falls off the wagon and back into the arms of a local drug kingpin, he literally can’t process it. For me, this is where Super trumps Kick-Ass. It explores the allure of the vigilante, but also the sickness and anger behind it. It’s also an incredibly personal film that offers catharsis rather than vicarious thrills. When you hear Frank rail about “the rules” during the film’s climax it’s so powerful you don’t know whether to cheer or cry. His heart is in the right place… he’s just psychotic.

That’s not to say I don’t like Kick-Ass, I do. It’s a vastly entertaining film. But while Super is more challenging and it’s not likely to please as many people – it resonates pretty deeply for the people who were meant to love it. That gives it the edge for me.

How about you?

 
  • dr.lamb

    Kick-Ass. “Super” starts out great, but is tonally all over the place. And the “moral lesson” at the end annoyed me.

    • professorfedi

      You mean the “Kill everybody and then god gives you a bunny”-lesson?

      • dr.lamb

        Yeah exactly. How degrading !

  • Zombie-Killa

    Kick-Ass for me.

    What edges it out for me is the cast. Chole Grace Moretz’s Hit-Girl/Mindy, Nicolas Cage’s Big Daddy, and Mark Strong was an entertaining villain. Kick-Ass was more funny, IMO, and the fight sequences/action were better than ANYTHING Super had to offer.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like Super and I have it on DVD. But I’ll only give Super one edge over Kick-Ass: Rainn Wilson. I thought he was a better leading man than Aaron Taylor Johnson. Plus, Frank fighting to save his ex (Liv Tyler) from the clutches of addiction and the nasty drug pusher was a more interesting storyline. And I might be alone on this, but when Ellen Page becomes Boltie, she gets kind of annoying.

    Oh, and am I the only one, who actually enjoyed Kick-Ass 2? Come on, it wasn’t that bad! lol.

  • Sick_skwerl

    Super all the way! Ellen Page as Bolty is incredible. And the scene waiting in line for a movie is goddamn hilarious.

  • Lion7718

    Kick-Ass for me also. Super was good…but in a different way.

  • z-laporte-airey

    Are you guys serious? Super! Kick-Ass pretends to be some meta transgressive take on super heroes, but it’s essentially the same “goodness prevails, guy gets girl, rah rah” crap that h-wood has been putting out forever. Have an 11 year old say “cunt” and people act like it’s edgy. Super actually delivers on what Kick-Ass’ marketing campaign promised.

    Also it’s a lot funnier.

  • BornVillian

    I LOVE both movies but I have to choose Super. I just love how dark and depressing it got.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.dimler Chris Dimler

    I choose super. I felt kick ass bailed on its premise when hit girl and big daddy joins. Super appealed to my dark sense of humor. Plus the ending packed way more punch.

  • Lonmonster

    Super, if only for Ellen Page as a comic nerd.

  • DoktorH

    Why not do both in a Kick Ass/Super crossover?

  • Raziel_cz

    Super is so much better movie! It’s more personal, it stars cool Rainn Wilson and really great Ellen Page. I started to love her thanks to this film.

    Kick-Ass is all right, nothing more. And the jetpack is just ridiculous. It ruined the experience.

    Shut up, crime!

  • Necromorph

    personally i liked super a lot more, i felt like kick ass tried too hard to be flashy and edgy what with all the cursing hit girl was spewing by the end, while super did have some out there moments i felt it was more realistic as a whole than kick ass did, plus rainn wilson and ellen paige delivered stellar performances, i loved the cameo by lloyd kaufman and kevin bacon and michael rooker were nice surprises too

  • BadCrumbs

    SUPER!!

  • CTHL

    I’d only vote Super for Ellen Page’s finale, which is what I want to happen to her in every movie. Pop!

    Liked em both, but Super dragged a bit too much. Kick-Ass automatically wins for having “The Cage”. KA2…now that was pretty bad, unfortunately.

    PS. Could’ve very well added Defendor to this poll too… always thought of it as the movie Super ripped off.

  • horrorking95

    I really liked Super, I thought it was really funny with great characters and some powerful scenes, however I thought the finale could’ve been handled better.

    Kick-Ass is the clear winner for me. It’s so much bloody fun! It’s probably as funny as Super and the action is brilliantly directed with some amazing set-pieces and characters. Kick-Ass is one of the most entertaining films I can recall in recent years. I still look forward to seeing its sequel!

  • Evil_Flip

    Kick-ass is a great ride, but Super is just a better movie. And even though they’re both superhero-in-real-life movie, Kick-ass is still very very comic-booky while Super feels more ‘real’.

  • Zombie-Killa

    Wow. Gotta say I’m 100% surprised Super is receiving so much support. I thought Kick-Ass was more popular for some reason. Did Kick-Ass 2 really piss people off that much???? lol.

    But in all seriousness, I can see why a lot of people are going for Super. And well, I almost feel like changing my pick now after reading these posts! lol.

  • ImPetrified

    What, did you eat a brain tumor for breakfast or something? Kickass paved the way for Super (and it’s equally undercooked ripoff God Bless America); it defined the unqualified super hero genre. There’s nothing impactful about Super or it’s maudlin conclusion. It’s unclear what Super was trying to say, and it didn’t have the skills to say it very well. I prefer also Kickass because it strayed from the racist material in its source text. (Not to mention it’s funny, smart, action-ortiented, visceral, self-aware. Oh yeah. And entertaining.)

    Super makes no such effort, reclining in facile racial stereotypes. The cop-killing drug pushers who keep Frank’s wife perpetually sedated suddenly grow a conscience when she’s raped by a huge black man??

    Amazing character arc…

  • Joey_Redballs

    I just scored Super for $4.95 on blu-ray, used, and sans box at Family Video. Fudge! I didn’t know Best Buy had an exclusive extra disc. FUGG! Maybe somebody I know has the extra disc so I can rent-to-own. The German blu-ray box art is pretty awesome; I should print that shib out and slide it in a case.
    P.S. You can debate all day long about Super vs. Kick Ass. However, Super defeats Kick Ass 2, not even debatable. BTW, I enjoyed Kick Ass 2 for what it was.

  • Joey_Redballs

    How about Super vs. Defendor? It’s like the same movie, but instead of crazy, the lead is mildly retarded. That and it’s a total downer of a movie.

  • Joey_Redballs

    How about Super vs. Special? In Super, the lead should be put on medication but isn’t. In Special, the lead is put on medication THEN goes nuts.

  • Joey_Redballs

    Oh Shib! I forgot about THE Specials. Gunn vs. Gunn. However, Gunn didn’t direct The Specials; he only wrote it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181836/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

  • ChildoftheKoRn

    Super.

  • Sean Bode

    Kick-Ass. Comparison isn’t Fair. Super needed to be made. But who is going to accept all that death for one junkie to make something of herself. Divine inspiration through tentacle rape? That was some weirdness. I don’t even put it on the same shelf as Kick-Ass. If it wasn’t for the fact Rainn Wilson was so obviously deranged I’d say this was some H. P. Lovecraft adapted movie. Great but for a different reason.