I enjoyed Scream 4 and would see a part 5.

– Stevie, out!

I kinda have the feeling you want a new film, with a completely original story, and not a new Scream.

so you want the SCREAM franchise to be like the Scary Movie franchise??? Give me a break.

I wouldn’t mind seeing them surprise us by wiping out the old cast and bringing in a new one, and then starting the sequels all over again. Bring it on!

That being said, Scream 4 was everything it should have been. Could the comedy have been toned down? Of course. Was the ending hospital scene utterly ridiculous? Absolutely.

But the reason that this film did not do well was because they did not do anything that should have been done to CONTINUE the franchise. Now, I would love for Scream 5 & Scream 6 to be released, but Craven and the Weinsteins were idiotic for thinking they could have kept all the original main cast without any consequences. Yes, there are long time Scream fans out there that are die hard for the core trio (Sidney, Dewey, Gale), but what they forgot about was the new audience for this generation. The innovation of technology was not the way to connect with the younger crowd.

Here’s my interpretation–Emma Roberts ends up getting her way and offing Sidney. Dewey & Gale live in the end right by their “new Sidney”. Only she’s a killer–a famous one at that. The next film, Scream 5, would bring in a new killer stalking Emma Roberts and her new airhead rich famous friends. To me, that is what Scream is about. IRONY. A serial killer, once a villain, now being stalked by a new serial killer and made to be a victim. That would have made a connection with the younger crowd in a twisted way only Scream could have done. It would have sparked something inside of fans to think “wow, these writers are serious about starting a new franchise. I like that.” Instead, they went the boring, safe route & kept the original cast. Now, here we are.

And on top of that, the advertising before the film’s release was pathetic as well. With these two aspects that I noticed…they set themselves up for disaster, no profit, and no new trilogy. Just a film that would was satisfying, but exactly what it was 10 years ago.

I didn’t really expect much from Scream 4, but it won me over. I wish there were more quality slasher movies being made these days. It was refreshing to have a real writer and director behind something with an actual budget, when it seems like 99% of the horror market is zero budget direct to video brainless trash. Scream 4 was a well made, well written, beautifully shot horror film that was funnier and more satisfying than anything in the slasher genre has been in years. If Scream 5 were to happen with Kevin Williamson and Wes Craven behind it, I would be a very happy dude.

I agree to an extent Evan, but on the contrary this is suggestive that the franchise has A LOT of life left in it. There are so many fresh innovative things that can still be accomplished with a Scream 5 or 6.

Add to that, Ghostface is as iconic as Jason, Michael and Freddy at this point, he can’t go away any time soon. I just hope they don’t go the reboot route too soon. Not that I ever want a reboot, though it is inevitable some way down the road. I just feel there are a few sequels left in the franchise yet.

I think the biggest hindrance to Scream 4 was actually the location it was filmed… by not filming in the original town the nostalgia factor was completely eliminated making the whole ‘Return to Woodsboro’ theme redundant. Just imagine the finale self-mutilation scene talking place at Stu Machers house as is was originally Kevin’s plan? The other reason was simply the Weinsteins incessant interfering with the script.

If Scream 5 were to get the green-light it just needs to be handled better and I’m sure it can be a success, and that’s not to say Scream 4 didn’t do well… $100m at the Box Office for a Horror film (especially a Slasher at the moment) is a million miles from poor.

Scream is not the F13th, NOES, Hellraiser, or TCM series. Scream movies have razor sharp wit. Keep pushing the series and we could end up with something that resembles one of the many 90s teen horrors that followed Scream where the only wit present would be cheese wit. It would definitely be razor sharp; like a cheddar.

I may trust a 5th if Williamson was behind it, but looking at 4 I have no reason to believe he has more genius to offer here. If Scream 4 wasn’t written with the parody of reboots in play, I would say maybe the series has somewhere to go. As it is, it feels pretty final to me. “Don’t f*** with the original.”

I liked Scream 3 because I felt they fully developed the Sidney character. She wasn’t weak but truly ready to face the thing she was afraid of the most, and I thought the fight scene in scream 3 at the end was the best in the series.

Scream 4 I didn’t hate but I didn’t like it either. Kirby was the best character, and had the best scene in the movie when she starts just spitting out tons of horror movies to answer Ghostface question lol.

What killed Scream 4 was the ending. I felt cheated..

If they are going to do a Scream 5 some main characters have got to die. They need to hand the franchise over to young blood.

I mean the Halloween franchise allowed Michael to finally kill Laurie Strode.

But, they need to bring back some awesome chase scenes like Gale’s chase through the recording studio in Scream 2, and some awesome suspense scenes like the whole car scene in Scream 2.

Scream 4 was a lot of fun, but I feel that with the right story and with a little more horror… Scream 5 could be amazing.

i’d like to point out what happened in Scream 2 when they killed off randy (who was my favorite character). after that happened it seemed the film got a little darker and more suspenseful giving you the sense that anyone could possibly be next since randy was a main character. like with gail and dewey watching the tapes inside the empty college and that whole scene – had me on the edge of my seat. definitely a stand out scene for me. and when sidney and her friend were in that car wreck with the cops.

If they do all of that and manage to have something to say about society and later sequels or something, the film can work and should be made. But this isn’t one of those situations where an enthusiastic greenlight (with a release date) should somehow come before a completed script.

I understand where you’re coming from anezka. And hey, if Scream 5 happens, I’ll keep an open mind for the best. I’m just don’t want Scream to devolve into a series of shitty sequels. Shitty sequels that were made for the sole purpose of cashing-in on the Scream name for another quick buck.

True that, true that. Sidney, Gale and Dewey are f***ing invincible. They have waaaaayy more lives than a cat has.

What I think is that, according to the “remake tone” they gave to Scream 4, it will need two more entries to finish the series, because they are remaking now.
But I agree that it is overly dangerous to have a bad movie in the end, even more after the lovely Scream 4. But I do think that, if they can make a good story, why not?

That’s true. A character is only dead if we SEE them dying on screen. Unless they are the killer…

Here’s some youtube links to an upload someone did with the commentary regarding Kirby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNc27nsk34c

As for a “Scream 5” I’m really torn. The fanboy in me would love another and another and another. Just think about life without 12 “Friday the 13th”‘s. However, the non-fanboy (whatever you want to call it) would like to see a franchise end on a high-note.

I guess what I’m saying is, if they make a fifth movie, great, I’ll see it. If not, I’m just fine with that…

Oh yeah, I’m done with anything “Ghostbusters III” until it’s actually finished and playing in theaters…

I LOVED Scream 4, and I can remember a friend telling me one thing I’ll never forget after we walked out of the theater: “damn, that was awesome! If Scream has to end after this I’m okay with it. I really am.” I share those feelings. Scream 4 was an unexpected home run for me, and I really don’t need to see another film, ever. Think about it, do we REALLY want to take a chance on Scream 5 turning into the next Halloween Resurrection, Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, or those shitty straight-to-video Hellraiser films? Sometimes you just have to know when it’s time to pull the plug, because franchises/film series usually peak or plateau after the first two or three films.

As far as Ghostbusters 3 goes…I just don’t care anymore. All the waiting, the delays, and the Bill Murray drama just killed any interest I had for #3. It’s weird, because I was watching part II last night, and unlike a lot of Ghostbuster fans I actually enjoy that film. It was a respectable follow up for me, and I really don’t need to see another film.

Well, if they didn’t throw 40 million at a movie that needed 15-20 mil. the final box office gross wouldn’t have looked half as bad. It would look a lot better if we could say S4 cost 15 million to make and it grossed 100 million worldwide but they gave it too big a budget that it didn’t need. You can’t tell the film cost 40 million to make, it looks just as good as Scream 1 and 2 does VS their 16 & 20 million budgets.
The franchise was also away for 10 years, nobody should’ve expected it to gross as much as the first three.

Anyway, I’d love a Scream 5. I’m a huge fan of the whole franchise, but I’d only like them to do it with Kevin’s idea and Craven’s direction. No re-writes. Just a final script that won’t be changed during the shoot.

Dimension should get on it rather soon though and not take a huge break between 4 and 5.

#5 would have to be some monumental overhaul for me to care but considering Wes and the cast were so adamant about not doing anymore after #3 unless the material were stellar and that was so not the case with #4, I have no confidence… and for chrissakes, leave Sidney alone! Create a Ghostface who is smart enough NOT to tangle with her, who wants to create a new legend and stand on his/her own merits without riding the coattails of Sidney. Hell, there’s even another joke for ya: Killer reveals he wasn’t about to tussle with her because that bitch is clearly not human… or something actually funny.

I just don’t want it run into the ground and made a huge embarrassment. SCREAM 4 did not pull in the numbers for reasons and it seems a revamp in ideas and execution (not necessarily a franchise reboot) is a must and the only option for another generation to care.

Infect,

“It feels like a party down the street-you don’t like who’s throwing the party. Sure you know a couple of friends going, and you can occasionally hear the noise of it all, but you don’t have to go. And you don’t have to be the person to crash the party.”

VERY VERY VERY well said!

Slasher_Lover, don’t leave me/us hanging here!!! 🙂

what did Wes & Hayden say about her fate? i never heard the commentary. 🙂