Untitled Joker Origin Movie (2019)
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In the first stand-alone movie centered on the classic Batman villain, Joaquin Phoenix plays Arthur Fleck, who no doubt transforms into the criminal psychopath, Joker.
Directed by Todd Phillips and produced by Scorsese, the movie is supposed to be a darker, grittier take on the character.
First image revealed.
Directed by Todd Phillips and produced by Scorsese, the movie is supposed to be a darker, grittier take on the character.
First image revealed.
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Or after the Jesus movie I guess if Rooney is in it
Todd Phillips is a weird choice, but then again so was David Gordon Green for Halloween.
Joaquin can turn this into something special.
I'm so down for this
It definitely speaks volumes to the material that someone like Phoenix signed on for it. I can't think of many reasons why any big-name, esteemed actor would want to join the DC movie roster right now. The risks are too great, so there had better be a blindingly good reason for doing it.
Todd Phillips is an interesting choice. Unexpected, but at least it feels fresh. My hope is that they actually kinda throw any Joker source material out of the window and do something completely new with this.
DC jumped the gun immediately and floundered with Man of Steel. That movie cannot be the starting point. Then they failed again. And again. And again. Even if Dawn of Justice is great for a certain crowd and the Blakelock's of the world can enjoy it with their kids, DC needed that standalone with Universal acclaim to get people to give a shit. Instead they drove right on into a sea of mediocrity.
It still hurts that Marvel geeks and mainstream critics shit on DC when their best film is better than all of theirs combined, but that's the world we live in. Like anything, film is time and place and it just wasn't the right time for DC. It's too late.
I wrote a bunch yesterday and then deleted it. I think this video I found later sums up what I was aiming for more coherently
Out of all their properties, Batman does the best. It's just easier to do a passable if not better version of him. He's got the Death-wish-ness any audience can relate too, and not the four color always do right even if it means having to spend more time at it to always do right
So you make Batman your Flagship, but not of the other movies are sailing the same flagship. They keep going from gritty flagship to more four color stories
They really need to pick a lane and would be a lot better to lighten up the Batman movies than trying to make gritty Superman, Wonder Woman, or whoever.
I think the Shakespeare route of heavy angst , light hearted is the way to go (this being how I see the MCU, could be other ways to put a fine point her tho)
Soften up Batman and the DCU just might flourish instead of all their multiple tones
Anyway, that's my theory of why the DCU isn't catching on like the MCU and what could be fixed
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Warner Bros just need to employ people who understand the characters, and if they want to have an MCU style franchise of their own then copy the formula. Build it slow. Do stand alone movies, give the audiences time to get to know the characters then put them all in one movie.
The DCEU pretty much went from Iron Man to Guardians to the Galaxy then onto The Avengers.
Take for instance Black Panther. When I first saw it, I thought Ryan Coogler was all over that movie. But I've seen it again since, and whilst it's a great film and probably my favorite of the MCU thus far, it's Coogler on a leash. I kinda didn't wanna acknowledge it the first time because I dig the guy so much.
Come to think of it, both the MCU and the DCEU are operating on opposite, extreme ends of the spectrum. The MCU offers little to no free reign to it's filmmakers and you could say Kevin Feige himself is the author of all those movies, and apparently over at the DCEU the individual filmmakers can do whatever the hell they want, good or bad.
Yes, they stick to a very safe formula but it clearly works, but when they do branch out, like hiring Taika Waititi the results are gold.
@Atmosphere studios just can't pump hundreds of millions into something and trust another vision. Every movie with a name director has been that name doing a Marvel movie. Even Thor 3.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wbpictures/status/1043184618160021505
I really dig it.
I like it and its good to see a non traditional Joker look.