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‘Venom’ Will Not Be Part of the Marvel Universe; Shooting This Fall

Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige has confirmed to Allocine that the forthcoming Venom movie will not be part of Marvel’s Cinematic Universe.

“For now, there is no plan for Venom in the MCU. It’s a Sony Project.”

Being that it’s a Sony project, there will be no issues with it receiving an R-rating. However, as Collider notes, Marvel Studios is ultimately owned by Disney, which does not make R-rated movies, so the prospect of an R-rated MCU movie seemed improbable at best. Still, Feige leaves the door open:

“I don’t think it’s out of the question. When I started at Marvel seventeen years ago, the Blade franchise was doing very well. A lot of people didn’t even know that it was based on a Marvel character because at the time they sort of hid the fact it was Marvel. So, not out of the question, but not something we’re working on right now.”

It’s awesome to hear him mention Blade off the tip of his tongue, which lends credibility that they’re working to revive the character. But in regards to Venom, there’s also news on a potential shoot date: According to Omega Underground, Sony will start shooting Venom on September 1 in both Atlanta, Georgia and New York City.

It was announced last month that Tom Hardy will be starring as the title character and Zombieland‘s Ruben Fleischer is directing.

Hardy’s Eddie Brock is able to converse and have a relationship with the symbiote, which culminates to him becoming Venom.  The character was introduced in 1988 in “The Amazing Spider-Man” #298-300, scripted by David Michelinie and drawn by the legendary Todd McFarlane and Mike Zeck. Venom is an alien symbiote that needs a human host to survive. In return, the alien empowers its victim with incredible powers.

No word on what the film will be about, but a production listing pegged it as an “action/horror/science fiction” movie.

Sony will spin a darker web on October 5, 2018.



COMMENTS

44 Comments
  • James

    Not bringing someone like Tom Hardy into the MCU is a massive waste.

    • Ocelot006 .

      It’s not like it’s Kevin Feigie’s decision on this.

      • James

        Oh I know but it’s no less disappointing.

    • Corey

      Tom Hardy doesn’t fit into the Disney MCU.

      Dude is way too good at playing dark and gritty characters for Disney/Marvel to waste him.

  • Grimphantom

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7b7bb318350dbeff9f849c46856d6b26c6d0c2497b6ba595601d5b01bee7b96.gif
    Hope it bombs, showing Sony once and for all they can’t handle Spider-man and his villains well.

    • James

      Let’s hope it doesn’t. We couldn’t ask for a better venom on film.

      • Grimphantom

        Yeah but if they don’t learn their lesson, they will still make this bullshit move making Fox look good.

        • James

          Fox is doing great with xmen. No complaints aside from J Lawrence.

          • Grimphantom

            Tell that to Fantastic Four lol

          • James

            fantastic four and x3 are indeed their big failures. Well both F4 part two and the reboot which wasn’t horrible but could have been better. But for the most part the x-men series has been solid.

          • oh_riginal

            The Last Stand, Origins, and Apocalypse are still a taint on their overall record. Like, they are BAD, no matter which way you look at them.

            But I do think that, if not for the bad continuity in the series overall, it really would be a solid series. I think people would be a bit more forgiving.

          • James

            Oh shit I forgot about origins. Pretty sure I blocked that from my memory. Apocalypse wasn’t bad though.

          • David Reese

            Yea Apocalypse wasn’t that bad at all. Not sure why anyone would lump it into the same category as Last Stand and Origins.

  • Ocelot006 .

    People are getting a lot ornate mileage of clarifying over and over again that this is not part of the MCU. This site announcing Marvel was the one that cast Tom Hardy when they didn’t certainly didn’t help anyone.

  • Neckbeard The Terrible

    Venom is pointless without his connection to Spider-Man

    • Corey

      Nah, he’s just an extra-terrestrial version of Spawn without Spider-Man.

      It’s going to be awesome.

  • Biscoito18

    I’m gonna watch anyway. Tom Hardy is in, i’m in.
    Also, I’m so sick of this universe thing. Just make a good film.

    • Muscle Struts

      I hate the obsession with trying to make everything into a cinematic universe. It makes everything feel like a massive cliffhanger, and excuse to raise plot points that don’t get answered because they can always rely on a later film answering it.

      • David

        I couldn’t had said it better myself. This whole “cinematic universe” feels like a soap opera. If you miss a movie, then you’ll miss 23 things on what they’re talking about.

      • Buk Lau

        Well, the comics are connected within a universe so why wouldn’t they want the films to be too? I don’t think you miss much if you skip a few movies here and there. You can still get the basic plot points.

        • Jada Maes

          That’s the problem: the storylines are so interchangeable that the plot points ultimately don’t matter. The X-Men flicks are the worst example; previous movies are always retconned, explained away, or outright ignored because they don’t fit the current narrative.

          • Buk Lau

            How much of that is Disney’s influence? They seem to be the driving force behind the cinematic universe with their mouse wallet. X-Men stands kind of unique because they started out before they came along and weren’t really regarded as good at the time but they didn’t get a reboot, just some weird prequel timeline. I get it though, it does get kind of confusing and pointless. It does with the books too.

          • Jada Maes

            I find the books less problematic but still a bummer (not much for time-and-dimension-altering-deux-ex-machina garbage). The movies are a whole different aminal because the end of one is always out of synch with the start of the next.

            And I concur, you don’t usually go to Disney for taking a risk.

        • Muscle Struts

          It’s kind of a problem in comics as well. For one, it doesn’t necessarily mesh well together. Like in the controversial Spiderman run of One More Day, where the whole plot is kicked off by Aunt May being shot because everyone now knew Spiderman was Peter, because he revealed his identity as part of the Civil War plot. Peter saves her by making a literal deal the the devil, where his price was annulling his marriage to MJ on a cosmic level.

          This is where the problem of a huge connected universe comes in. There was a mutant during this time period, who’s whole gimmick was that he was able to manipulate cells, like making them heal. Why didn’t Parker ask him to save Aunt May? Or hell, why not ask Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Beast, or any of the other super geniuses that the Marvel Universe is full of? That’s the problem with having a huge interconnected universe is that if you have someone with a broken power somewhere, it just ruins the verisimilitude if someone doesn’t turn to them. That said, the whole purpose of One More Day was convoluted and was just meant to get rid of Spidey being married because Quesada hated it.

          And there’s also the same problem as MCU, having a huge interconnected setting means that events can happen outside of one comic, and someone reading that will get lost if it isn’t handled properly.

          Like say what if Robin weren’t killed off in a Batman comic, but was killed off in his appearance in say a Justice League comic, or hell, maybe say Aquaman. For someone who might only read Batman, or dislikes Justice League or just Aquaman, they will probably be confused as to why Robin might be gone, or hell, pissed off he was killed off in some other comic they don’t read and don’t want to spend the time or money reading some other comic just to see one other character’s resolution.

  • Judge Satchmo

    But will it be connected to the “Life” universe?! That’s the question.

    • Saturn

      Yes, it’s a direct sequel – and is to be found footage, dealing with the character receiving a videotape that he believes is of his cousin’s next door neighbour’s younger sister who went missing something like 20 years back.
      I can’t wait!

  • Jada Maes

    Oh no, Venom won’t be jetting off to exotic locales and exchanging wisecracks with two-dimensional villains. How shall we cope?

    • Golic

      Comment of the fucking day.

    • Alex Harbie

      Wait, Wait. They only did that with one character, and they did it well. Just because you don’t like it, don’t shit on it. Don’t pretend that every Marvel movie is like that. By and large, those movies do well, and their stories for the most part are decent. They hired a horror director to shoot this, and if you look at his track record, his action movies suck, and he’s only had one real hit, which was Zombieland. Maybe judging by your taste and your avatar, you may want this movie to be more like the movie, The Craft, with pseudo horror Wicca garbage, then an actual action movie, which is what this movie should be, but won’t be.

      • Jada Maes

        Nah, Marvel flicks by and large are pretty much the same. There’s no risk taking or change in filming technique, and every ending pretty much sets the story back to status quo. As for Venom, I’m actually hoping they look at the short film Truth In Journalism, which demonstrates exactly how you’d respond meeting him in real life (AKA near-paralytic terror and the evacuation of the bowels). The thing about my avatar… If you think I look like a pesudo-Wiccan, I find that super cool 🙂

        • Jack Derwent

          People only say there’s no risk after they’re successful. People were predicting the movie with the gun-toting raccoon and talking tree was going to be the film that destroyed Marvel.

          • Jada Maes

            Guardians of the Galaxy is the only one that colors outside the lines, and that’s mostly because Gunn is one of the lucky few to pretty much get his way artistically.

          • Jada Maes

            Are the flicks successful? Yes. For much the same reason Wal-Mart and McDonald’s will usually succeed when you build a new one. Because people (en masse) have been programmed to accept familiarity as comfort.

          • Jack Derwent

            You can say that about almost any studio-produced film designed to appeal to a mass audience. But there’s at least a level of quality that Marvel offers that most other blockbusters lack.

          • Jada Maes

            The acting is generally better, and the characters are fleshed out… But is it because of the films, or because they have so much history attached to them already?

        • Alex Harbie

          Your wrong again. You keep changing the facts to support your conclusion. The Marvel movies are not all the same. Captain America and Ironman are nothing alike, as well as Thor and Spiderman. You seem to pull your so called facts from out of your behind. Venom is going to fail for two reasons, the director and Tom Hardy. A Micast and misdirect. Paralytic and emptying the bowels really? A Marvel film by Sony? Your obviously in tune with watching garbage, and judging by your flowery pseudointellctual language, you obviously have no idea what your talking about.

          • Jada Maes

            I love attaching pseudo- to the front of words. Makes one sound so intellectual 🙂

            The facts: every Marvel film uses pretty much the same color palette, same camera angles (that is to say, framing things in the center and staring at them), same filters and lenses. Every one could’ve been directed by the same person, with minor exceptions (the Russos prefer practical stunts for fight scenes, Whedon ups the Whedony dialogue, etc). You go see a Tim Burton film, you know who directed it by looking at it. Same with Del Toro, or Tarantino. There’s nothing that makes any particular Marvel flick stand out from the pack (except GotG, but that one has its own issues).

            And rather than insulting my tastes, maybe… WATCH the short film I was referring to?

          • Alex Harbie

            Sweetheart, you seem to be so in the know, yet, you dance around my question with that flowery stupid language of yours, and again your pseudointellctual bitchiness, that keeps going and going. Again your wrong. Every Marvel movie is not the same. Color palette? Whendony dialogue? Practical fight scenes? You sound as stupid as you look. Do your fake eyebrows cutoff the circulation to your brain, which in turn doesnt allow you to think. Sony couldn’t get it right, again miscast and misdirect. Two failed choices for the price of one. Keep going, i love when fat girls try and run with me, a guilty pleasure.

          • Jada Maes

            …how the flying fuck would eyebrows cut off circulation?

            And yes, I do weigh 299 pounds, but thankfully it’s mostly muscle (not to say I don’t enjoy a good McLunch now and then). I got lost in the insults, so what exactly IS your question, dear?

          • Alex Harbie

            There you go. That’s what i wanted my beautiful butterball, only with more feeling next time, let the uber cunt out on a grand scale. Sure, 299 lbs and mostly muscle, hahaha. A Mclunch every now and then? Don’t you mean everyday, Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner? Cupcake, I’m sure you didn’t get lost in the insults, you found them and me just fine no? Reread sweetheart, then get back to me, take the Mcrib out of your mouth, and get back to me with a coherent, on point rebuttal.

          • Jada Maes

            …that got really creepy really fast.

            At first I thought you were just another troll who disagrees for the sake of disagreeing. You quickly morphed into the human equivalent of that black shit you have to scrape up when you clean behind the refrigerator.

            I have no need for the rude. Later.

  • Corey

    When you get down to it Venom is an awful lot like Spawn..just with alien origins instead of demonic ones.

    Make it based on the “Lethal Protector” story lines and let Tom Hardy be the bad ass that he’s fully capable of being onscreen and this will be the best comic film that Sony has ever made.

  • Christopher Nickerson

    Well, they did spend the whole movie LIFE building a new origin for Venom…

  • Boxcar Racer

    I am okay with it not being connected. Not everything needs to be connected with these movies. Just focus on making the movie GOOD and go from there.

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