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The ‘Nightmare On Elm Street’ That Never Was (Exclusive)

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Back in 2008-09 Bloody Disgusting had learned exclusively that French filmmakers Julien Maury and Alexandre Bustillo, hot off the release of their slasher Inside, were in talks to remake A Nightmare On Elm Street for Platinum Dunes and New Line Cinema. They unfortunately went with music video director Samuel Bayer who butchered Wesley Strick and Eric Heisserer’s phenomenal screenplay (seriously, it was bomb).

We caught up with the duo to talk about their upcoming French slasher, Among the Living, now out in the UK. We were pretty stoked to get a response when we inquired as to what their Elm Street pitch was.

“Our idea of a good remake is to have a new vision on the same thematics,” they told Bloody Disgusting in our exclusive interview. “Here it was to really use the fact that Krueger is a child molester. So the idea was to have a twisted version of the ‘Goonies’ with a bunch of kids being stalked. We thought it would have been great for a remake to switch the teenagers of the original with real kids. Beside childhood is the moment in life when you are truly and deeply frightened by nightmares, when you’re not able to see the difference between reality and dreams…”

I think our genre, in general, has a problem with age. The joke is always that adults are playing teens, which is why movies like The Goonies are so bold. Can you imagine the impact of having Freddy stalk and murder real children? Fuck, man, that’s scary shit. At least the duo got to play with idea in Among the Living, out now in the UK.

Maury and Bustillo eventually went on to director the lucid french horror Livide, with their Texas Chainsaw Massacre prequel, Leatherface, arriving later this year. We hear it’s absolutely insane!

  • Francesco Falciani

    well said. still waiting for the GOOD sequel.

  • Braker

    “I think our genre, in general, has a problem with age. The joke is always that adults are playing teens, which is why movies like The Goonies are so bold.”

    Huh? Goonies isn’t horror. And it wasn’t bold by casting real little kids (half of the Goonies were teens, too).

    Love Bustillo and Maury.

    • RidleyScott

      Hmm I wonder what’s for dinner

      • Braker

        I knew there was something you did like.

      • Creepshow

        And carrots

  • Remakes are fucking stupid unless the original film is terrible. If you think you can do better (and that the source material deserves better) then it’s something to consider. Otherwise, it’s creatively bankrupt filmmaking.

    • RidleyScott

      Your mom is creatively bankrupt.

    • James

      Aside from a great premise the original nightmare is mostly terrible.

      • Darnell

        Are you kidding? The original Nightmare is a great movie. If you were talking about the original TCM or the original Friday 13th i would agree. However the original NOES still holds up even now.

        • James

          A lot of the originals are great concepts but weak films. They’re still classic but they could be better. I personally prefer the original Friday to nightmare but certainly not because of acting but the setting and the mood. The original nightmare is an awesome concept but the acting is dreadful, the climax is just weak and the ending is awful. It’s fun but I can’t say it’s a good movie.

        • James

          Actually the heroines from both the original Friday and nightmare are some of the worst actresses I’ve seen.

  • RidleyScott

    Lol that’s it? An age change? That title though…

    But seriously I wouldn’t be comfortable watching this movie. Really exploiting him as a child m and using real kids? You fucking nasties ahaha. And kids aren’t dumb, I knew my nightmares weren’t real. Give me Rooney blowing hair out of her face yelling “Quen’in! QUEN’IN!” any day!…ew.

  • Geno1987

    Stupid click bait article.

  • Mr. Dry

    Wait what?! Were Maury and Bustillo behind the remake in the beginning?! Can we go back in time please? They’re great, this is so frustrating.

  • Brian

    I don’t see how using kids would have made that shit any better.

  • Come. On. Grimdark Freddy is part of what spoiled the remake. Can’t somebody embrace the tone of Robert Englund’s fun but also menacing Freddy?

    • James

      I far prefer the dark and grim Freddy. He was the real highlight of the remake.

      • Darnell

        I agree 100%. I am of the opinion that the best thing about the remake was Jackie. He did an amazing job all things considered. It wasn’t him or the look of Freddy that made that film suck.

        It was pretty much everything else about the film. On top of the star phoning in her performance.

        • James

          She was incredibly bond and then complained about having to do that movie after it was over. I’d love to see a real sequel though with Jackie still on board. A sequel could easily make up for all of the issues the remake had.

    • the usual suspect

      Would have to agree with you. Don’t get me wrong I love the evil dark menacing Freddy, but the humor and one liners is what at first attracted me to NOES series. A serial killer in a dream world cracking wise, what’s not too love?

      • Darnell

        It’s 2016…a joking Freddy won’t work without devolving into complete camp just like the majority of the crappy sequels. The original Nightmare on Elm Street was scary and as bad as part2 was it kept the fear factor.

        Dream Warriors was good but wasn’t nearly as scary as the previous films and after that all the followup films were a mess.

        If they are going to do a joking, non-scary Freddy they might as well not even bother.

        • the usual suspect

          Too each there own I guess. I prefer Dream Warriors as my favorite and part 4 was a pretty decent movie. Everyone has different taste but ,Camp/silliness and horror can still work in 2016 dude… all I need to say is Ash vs Evil Dead… point proven!

        • LeopoldHzilquihmbumn

          I disagree with you there. All that’s keeping a joking Freddy from also being menacing is a lack of writers and directors who can balance those moods.

    • Darnell

      God no! The joking, wisecracking Freddy is where the franchise went wrong. The first two in the franchise were the best because there was just this vicious venom to the character. The third movie really started the joking but they kept it in check. It went down hill after that until New Nightmare.

    • RidleyScott

      Rule: Freddy should always make you uncomfortably and nervously laugh. You should never feel safe with his jokes, but uneasy.

    • Adam Clifton

      The Freddy in the original 1984 movie was one sick, demented killer. He delighted in tormenting his victims before killing them, he got off on chopping off his own fingers and slicing his stomach open. He even kept trophies of every kill in the boiler room. The Freddy in the remake was just vengeance. He wanted vengeance because the kids he was raping had told on him. Bully for him

  • Alex

    So, where is this “phenomenal screenplay”? What else did it bring to the table? Because all you’re suggesting is that making the victims children would’ve saved that rancid abortion. Yeah, no.

    • wehoaks

      The screenplay was very meh. Not sure what shit he read.

    • Balerion

      I wanna find this script too. Is it out there?

  • It still would have been bad. Maybe worse.

  • James

    I would have loved to see their take on it.

  • Khy

    Lol Silly Brad. It just takes the smallest little things to make your pencil dick rise, eh? Go back to your apple slices and milk.

    • wehoaks

      Zing!

    • I don’t get it but I will!

      • Khy

        You look like a goat.

        • NixEclips

          Well,then. This explains why Brad never interacts us riff raff.

  • concerned citizen

    So… Stephen King’s IT then?

    • James

      I could easily see that kind of approach to a nightmare on elm street film.

    • Balerion

      Are they remaking IT? I thought I heard they were.

  • wehoaks

    The fact that Brad keeps saying he hears LEATHERFACE is insane just says tome that it is absolutely not (I also read the HORRID script – it’s not insane. Well it’s insanely awful if that classifies.)

    • RidleyScott

      HORRRRRRRRRRRRRID.

      • wehoaks

        Worse that Zombie’s Halloween 2 and that is saying a lot.

        • RidleyScott

          It makes Zombie’s H2 look like high art.

          • Creepshow

            Goddamn it YOOOU TOO!

          • Max

            Actually i thought it was high art for the genre. Along with the Maniac and Evil Dead remakes.
            Judge me.

          • RidleyScott

            Judgejudgejudgejudhejidjeudowlwpwlenwnwlgogo

          • Max

            Lol

          • Balerion

            I thought the Evil Dead remake was pretty damn good.

          • Max

            I know right?
            Maniac remake had that artistic feel and being shot from killers POV made it even more interesting to watch

          • Balerion

            I agree completely.

        • Creepshow

          Goddamn it YOOOU!!

    • alwayswipetwice

      I am absolutely dreading that Leatherface movie. I have zero faith that anything about it will be good. If Texas Chainsaw got made in the first place, that should say enough that they don’t give a SHIT about this franchise.

      • wehoaks

        Leatherface script was even worse.

      • RidleyScott

        Have you ever winced at a painful wipeout? The Leatherface script had that…quality.

        Oooooph. Just oooooooph.

      • Balerion

        But you could say that about every franchise ever.

    • I know people who have seen it. Look at who the directors are. How can you not have faith? They’re pretty fantastic!

      • wehoaks

        Because I read the awful script.

        • jasonlives1986

          You haven’t.

          • wehoaks

            K.

          • jasonlives1986

            Right

          • wehoaks

            Sure

          • jasonlives1986

            K

          • Balerion

            This conversation went south pretty fast.

          • wehoaks

            You should see him try and do math.

          • Balerion

            Why hasn’t he read the script? How do you know?

          • jasonlives1986

            Almost every post of his is just negativity about the scripts he read about whatever the thread is about.

          • wehoaks

            Not my fault every recent franchise script has sucked unwiped ass.

          • wehoaks

            He replies like a moron to everything I say. The best is he usually ends up asking me what is in the script. (And I legit do have it. It’s bad.)

          • RidleyScott

            He’s just mad because his dishwashing job has no cool perks. Wehoaks has read it.

          • wehoaks

            Ridley has read it too, along with a third user here.

          • jasonlives1986

            If ridley has read it it would only be because that’s your other account.

            Christ.

          • wehoaks

            You have severe mental issues. Please seek help. Good day, sir.

          • jasonlives1986

            Omg no. Not the mental card.

            Christ.

          • jasonlives1986

            Oh no, not my dishwashers job.

          • RidleyScott

            Cluck cluck cluck cluck

          • wehoaks

            The wacko hahahahaha he just said not the mental card RIGHT after he, a GROWN MAN, said “Uh derpa derpa deeerp multiple accounts deeeeerp.”

            I bet he is a poor wiper.

        • Dave Sykes

          agreed, youre talking shit

          • wehoaks

            Did you say something?

    • Balerion

      Where did you find the script?

      • wehoaks

        Someone gave it to me. It’s not online.

  • wehoaks

    Way to trumpet the last actual exclusive you guys got – EIGHT years ago.

    • I’m proud of it! The entire reason I was able to ask this question was because of that. This is pretty cool, right?

      • wehoaks

        Are you really d-bagging your own site right now?

    • Not trying to be a dick here but what Brad is saying is that we had one exclusive eight years ago (the directors) and now we’ve got this brand new one (their synopsis). We’ve also had TONS of exclusives in between!

    • Balerion

      Ha, exclusive!

  • rezblue

    I always hated the fact that kids are off limits in horror movies/video games. It makes no sense.

    • Right?!

    • Salzberger

      It ruins the movie by taking out all the suspense. Annoying kid in a horror movie? Guess we know who’s surviving.

      • LeopoldHzilquihmbumn

        For all it’s faults, Return of the Living Dead 4 killed off its ‘pre-teen with attitude’

        One of Hitchcock’s older films kills off a kid too. Which film? Let it be a surprise 😉

        • Balerion

          Yeah, which Hitchcock film are you referring to?

          • RidleyScott

            Who fucking cares

      • Dave Sykes

        there are tons of movies where kids are killed.

      • Romantic Placebo

        Planet Terror called *hands phone

    • RidleyScott

      Who fucking cares. Any horror film worth its salt won’t be just about the deaths, and if the entire time you’re focused on the kid and anticipating their death or lack thereof, then you have authentic problems. And this goes for any character in any genre. I know Indy isn’t going to die, that doesn’t detract from the movies. It’s still fun and tense watching him in peril.

      Knocking off kids in a manner that is tasteless, exploitative or non-purposeful is low hanging fruit. A cheap shot and it just shows me the filmmaker can’t intelligently engage me.

      • Dave Sykes

        You clearly don’t understand the horror genre.

        • RidleyScott

          You stay away from me.

      • rezblue

        This is not what I’m saying. I’m saying nothing should be off limits. If it can happen to an adult it can happen to a kid. I think we are all mature enough here to be able to deal with something bad happening to anyone at anytime in a movie/game/whatever without having an emotional breakdown.

        • RidleyScott

          There should be parameters. I don’t want to see something happen to a child in a tasteless manner and without purpose.

          Lol I can’t deal with it. I won’t have an emotional breakdown but I’ll divorce my interest from the movie, because the director is trying to shock me, and is not serious in their intention to maximally engage me.

          • Doogie Bowser

            Go watch Feast.

          • RidleyScott

            Blah fucking blah. Go mop some floors.

      • Romantic Placebo

        Thank you

    • oh_riginal

      The Blob ’88 is disappointed to be left out of the conversation.

  • Uter

    That idea does sound really promising, and whichever of the pair was quoted above sounds genuinely interested in the project. Shame, shame.

    • These guys are awesome filmmakers. It would have been special, for sure!

  • Dee

    But Platinum Dunes stands for 0% creative freedom for directors. So maybe not getting the gig was good for their career.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    Any Nightmare remake starring anyone not named Robert Englund was doomed to fail long before a single frame was shot, regardless of how good the writing could’ve been. Good for these guys they didn’t get to do it.

    • RidleyScott

      Many people are capable of reinterpretation that character satisfactorily.

      • Flu-Like Symptoms

        Good luck with that.

        • wehoaks

          He doesn’t need it as his min dis capable of grasping other concepts. You need the luck.

          • Flu-Like Symptoms

            Yo mama

          • wehoaks

            Your dad licks ass so well.

    • Balerion

      Although I agree with this specific example, there are times when a new actor can take over a role better than the original guy.

  • Justin ‘Jay’ Brown

    Well except Krueger is pretty specifically a child MURDERER. Not molester. On purpose.

  • disqus_qsavOWssMI

    Aww man I WISH this was the version they made. The new one sucked so hard.

  • EvilHead1981

    Strick and Heisserer’s original script really wasn’t THAT much better than the movie. It was basically the same. I read the script before watching the movie in theaters, and I was surprised how little they changed. The only big things they changed was more surreal aspects to dreams(in the bookstore, there was a trial of rats leading to the back room, a reference to the Pied Piper), the infamous pool party scene(which was the original opening), and Freddy turning into a monster/were-wolf-like creature and attacking Quentin so bad that he laid on the verge of death. Mostly everything else(even literal lines) was pretty true to the script.

    I DO like the idea of kids being a main focus rather than teens. While you can humanize teens, most horror directors tend to go the lazy route and resort to the “vapid teenager” cliche where they are disposable, 2D stereotypes that only like shallow shit and have no more depth to them than that. While kids can suffer a similar stereotype, I think placing them in horrific situations and not pulling your punches could deliver something more than “yet another uninteresting group of teens that are angsty and horny”.

    Though, I always kicked around the idea that you could do both. Maybe have a group of teens that are shown as being MORE than just that. Develop them as teens that not only have strong bonds with their friends, but their family and have some sort of connection to their younger sibs that start to die in their sleep. Have Freddy start reaping in their younger brothers and sisters, and them(the teens) pulling together to find a way to stop Freddy before he kills all the children of Elm Street. Again, you need more to horror teens(and young adults) than “Let’s fuck, get high, drunk and act STUPID!”. The NOES series has been less that for a while(probably handles it’s teens better than most horror movies), but it should remember to stand above the rest.

    Funny they mentioned the Goonies. I would’ve said something similar to It. I know of the NOES series before It, but always felt that whole “childhood fear” and being young and alone while facing such a supernatural threat(and adults are oblivious to it) was universally shared throughout both the book and the NOES series. That would be a damn good approach for a NOES movie!!!

    • wehoaks

      I agree with your assessment on the script. I am not sure what the fuck Brad read.

  • Adam Clifton

    Freddy is NOT a child molester. So they came up with that stupid idea

    • Dave Sykes

      you clearly have no grasp on the story, go get your facts straight dipshit.

      • EvilHead1981

        Half-true. Originally Wes wanted Freddy to be a child molester, then some big child molestation case hit the headlines in Los Angeles so they opted to make Freddy a “child killer” and not a molester. Still, I think in both cases, the main thing is that Freddy preys on innocence. Even in the first movie, while Nancy and crew were teens(and did teen stuff), they were still innocent to the fact that they knew not what their parents did(killed Freddy), nor had a personal connection to Freddy(other than being the children of the mob that killed him). So basically, they were paying for their parent’s sins(which was a theme Wes wanted to inject in there, the whole “Sins of the Father” idea).

  • Adam Clifton

    I’m surprised that none of the past Nightmare On Elm Street movies ever really did much with the jump-rope girls in the dream sequences. Dead ghostly children can be pretty creepy if they worked hard on it. Look at the Shining for example. Maybe the dead little kids creeping out the teen characters allows Freddy to get his claws into them?

  • dave o

    Honestly pretty much anything would have been better than we got with the remake, the only good things were Jackie as Freddy and Katie Cassidy as Kris. Rooney Mara is one of the worst final girls ever.

    • Adam Clifton

      told Kris (her friend since childhood) had just been murdered, Rooney’s character practically shrugs it off. That scene upset me

      • dave o

        How Mara got the job will remain a mystery to me, she was lazy and unconvincing as Nancy. If she saw the job as beneath her she should have let another actress take the role who actually cared

        • Adam Clifton

          Some people shit on the original because of the ‘bad acting’. But I found that the original NOES movie had the most genuine characters. You believed Nancy. You believed Tina and really feared for her life. The remake had none of that soul. It was just flat, lazy and soulless. They should have gotten a director that actually wanted to do it as well, because Samuel Bayer only agreed to it to get in favour with Michael Bay

    • Albert J. Brown

      Jackie’s Freddy was one of the worst parts of that movie. Grade A terrible.

      • but thats the way he was written so not haleys fault

        • Albert J. Brown

          You need to get that confirmation bias in check, Verlon. Clearly, you’re a fan of JEH, which is fine. It doesn’t make you a bad person if you’re a fan of someone or something that isn’t objectively perfect. Toughen up that will power.

          • Actually I agree that he was horrible in it just always felt it was the direction of the director that caused this to be shit I honestly only can say off the top of my head Rorschach is probably the only other part I can recall him playing but yea I believe that unless the have Robert Englund around in some form on the new on it will suck as bad too but my comment was more or less saying that with Bayer and bay it didn’t have a chance but fast forward a few years and Michael bay put out tmnt 2 which was really good IMO n made up for the shitstorm part 1 was

  • Balerion

    I would have loved to have this version made.

  • Balerion

    The latest once was ok at best, but this would have been much better in my opinion.

  • Pulagatha

    And I’m over here waiting for a little bit of info on what Peter Jackson was going to do with Part 6… Interesting story though.

    • Dee

      The pitch for Jackson’s version was that the kids are not scared of Freddy anymore and he becomes the tragic monster.

      • Pulagatha

        It’d be nice if the script got on the internet though.

        • Dee

          They should publish it, yeah.

      • Bla Blah

        Freddy as a tragic villain? A child molester, possibly rapist, and murderer suddenly gaining sympathy from the audience? I’d love to have seen how that would be accomplished.

      • Adam Clifton

        I remember it as the kids wilfully dream of Freddy so they can kick his weakened ass all over the dream world. But then Freddy actually gets lucky by killing one of them in their dreams and starts to regain his power… still, it would have been better than Freddy’s Dead

  • John Connor

    I want this movie.

  • Alea Anderson

    Sounds like the remake could have been awesome if the screenplay wasn’t messed with. This problem happens with movies too often. The same kind of thing happened with DragonHeart, in which its amazing screenplay was ruined by both the studio and an inept director. If you ask me, it’s movies like this that deserve a remake, not movies that feel complete and otherwise have nothing wrong with them. http://moviepilot.com/posts/3698187

  • Albert J. Brown

    This literally gives us no information but the commenters are amazingly talking about how great it sounds. Easily led sheep.

    • Jerad Wisdom

      Kay, thanks Morpheus.

  • Romantic Placebo

    Just like keeping the tree rape in the new Evil Dead, making Kruger a literal child molester would have taken this series into not just uncomfortable territory, but reprehensible territory.

    I love horror, but I’m really distressed at how badly it actually addresses the psychological and social reality of these issues. Put it like this, despite efforts on filmmakers, I almost never hear survivors of abuse or assault say “that horror film really helped me get over what happened/made it easier for me”

    The exception being It Follows…

    • Iommianity

      At what point is it not easier to admit that something may just not be for you than act like there’s a burden on people to create art with a social conscience?

      Despite whatever pretensions filmmakers may or may not have, the problem is assuming everyone is looking for what you describe in a fucking Nightmare on Elm Street movie. The only commentary that’s remotely interesting in this context is one rooted in nightmares and common sources of terror. What, did the tree scene make the original Evil Dead because it was a bygone era where being raped by demonically possessed plants was encouraged, and we’ve all collectively moved past that?

      • Romantic Placebo

        No, when you bring up issues that affect real people, I don’t think it’s really wise to dismiss it.

        • Jerad Wisdom

          Aside from the backwood-hillbilly subgenre, I don’t see as much rape scenes in horror as I do in violent dramas.

          • Romantic Placebo

            You’re not looking

        • how many people do you really know who have been molested by a razor glove wielding dream demon

          • Romantic Placebo

            I just saw a film where a man kept a woman prisoner after impregnating her and was reminded of Josef Fritzl.

    • Devin Owen

      If anyone is offended they should not Watch. Simple

      • Romantic Placebo

        that does not solve the problem. In fact, it exacerbates it.

    • KennyThaKilla

      And why should they? The horror genre does not exist to make you feel better about yourself. It is horror. You are meant to be horrified. You can keep that foremost in your mind when you sit down to watch a horror film, or continue to be disappointed. Your choice.

      I will say this though – I think that ultimately it was a wise decision by Wes to make Freddy a child murderer instead of a molester because the franchise probably wouldn’t have been as successful and enduring as it has been. The films got campier as they went along and Freddy became an anti-hero of sorts to millions. Would have been a tougher sell had Freddy been a pedo.

      • Romantic Placebo

        Your choice also to lecture me on everything I know while ignoring the subjects exist outside of a genre of films.

        why SHOULDN’T they be? The issues are more important, even if they don’t affect you.

        • KennyThaKilla

          Oh, do you consider my response to you a “lecture?” Is that your outlook every time someone disagrees with you? It’s not hard to decipher what you do and don’t know when your previous comment says the exact opposite.

          BTW, your response does not follow, as you’ve completely ignored the definition of horror.

          • Doogie Bowser

            I am going to back Kenny on this one, as horror isn’t built for comfort. It’s built to make you feel uneasy and off-kilter. To push your emotions in ways of unease. So it isn’t a comfort food, and people won’t say “that helped me” because it isn’t a genre built for that. I understand your point though in a sense where a “survivor” could overcome the horrors and terrors they’ve dealt with, but these stories aren’t about overcoming. These stories are what cause the “trauma” so to speak. A heartwarming horror flick isn’t going to happen, and if it does, it probably wouldn’t work out so well. Not to back lash out at you, because that isn’t the case… but figured another thought tossed in might help this “bickering” to stop between you two about movies.

            Also, I don’t like the “Child Molester” aspect at all. It alters what Freddy is. A psychopath. The murder aspect fits as you have tons of pedophiles out there who don’t actually commit murder (not saying what they do is good in any form) so that I feel would rob the character of his fearful aspect as a threat in that way. Obviously “Kid Lovin’ Krueger” would obviously entice fear in it’s own form, but who is the demographic watching? Not kids… I hope. Granted, I watched horror movies as a kid and that’s what started my love for all things horror, but I don’t think I watched movies about a scary child molester at least.

            TL;DR – Scary movies are Scary – Leave Freddy alone!

          • KennyThaKilla

            Bickering? Who’s bickering? 😉

          • Doogie Bowser

            Haha – That’s all you took out of the response? And basically Romantic Placebo and well… after scrolling through the comments.. everyone for the most part.

          • DisqusRaider

            KennyThaJizzLobber

          • Romantic Placebo

            Disagreement I understand, what i find irritating is people saying “this is why this can’t be, so just accept it”

            I’m well aware of horror, but horror that entertains is different than horror that isolates and scars. That’s all I want to say, and that we need to be careful when we mistake one for the other, especially when it portrays things incorrectly or plays into fallacious narratives.

          • KennyThaKilla

            But we’re talking about horror. Saying you can’t accept that it’s horrifying is like saying you can’t accept that the sky is blue. It is what it is, and doesn’t conform to anyone’s preconceptions.

            And that’s the great thing about being a filmmaker – you get to decide what’s correct and whether or not a narrative is fallacious.

          • Romantic Placebo

            No, I made a very clear distinction between horror that is horrifying but entertains, and horror that scars.

          • KennyThaKilla

            Subjective.

          • Romantic Placebo

            No

          • KennyThaKilla

            Yes.

          • Romantic Placebo

            I can see you don’t agree, but I can also see you don’t really understand the depths of the issues I’m bringing up.

          • KennyThaKilla

            Condescension always supports viewpoints.

          • Romantic Placebo

            Better than absolutism.

          • KennyThaKilla

            Not really. And pot/kettle as far as that’s concerned.

          • Romantic Placebo

            Touche

          • DisqusRaider

            oh imagine that you argue with everyone lol KennyThaAsshole

      • Darnell

        You are 100% correct. If Freddy had been a pedo this franchise would have never made it past the first movie. Pedophilia is just something that isn’t funny, and it’s so reprehensible that I am totally OK with it being off limits even in horror films.

        I still remember how controversial Halloween 4 was back when it came out. Having a serial killer go after a small child was such a controversial thing. They had to really scale back on the interaction between Jamie and Michael in the film. If you remember both the 4th and 5th films Michael never really hurt Jamie. They always prevented him from actually hurting her. It was mostly chasing.

        As a society we just are not ok with child torture and rape which is a good thing. I don’t want to see it because i’m just not comfortable seeing that. I think that was one of the main problems in the remake of Nightmare on Elm Street. Pedo Freddy just didn’t work and came off gross and creepy not scary.

        • KennyThaKilla

          Yeah, that coupled with the poorly enacted scenes from the original film made it a shiny turd I never plan on viewing again.

  • joewaters

    anything would’ve been better than that sam bayer shitfest

  • Evan3

    Let’s not just blame the director, who was probably just a mercenary anyways. Platinum Dunes, the terrible actors, awful fx-workers, and probably Michael Bay had a lot to do with that shit-fest.

    In any event, I love this pitch. Not at all surprised it didn’t get picked up (especially by Platinum Dunes – the lease inventive studio ever) because as you accurately stated, horror (especially modern horror) hates putting real kids in danger. Too bad, I don’t know if it would have been good, but at least it would have been interesting.