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[Exclusive] We’ve Got the First ‘Saw: Legacy’ Plot Details; Tobin Bell Returning!

So is it a sequel? A reboot? We’ve got the scoop. PRESS PLAY

Let the games begin.

Set for release on October 27th, eighth franchise installment Saw: Legacy hopes to revive the series that seemingly came to an end back in 2010; but what the hell is it about? Plot details have thus far been shrouded in secrecy, to the point that we haven’t yet seen a trailer or even any official still images, but we were able to exclusively get our hands on the first story details.

Bloody Disgusting has learned that Saw: Legacy will begin with bodies turning up around the city, each having met a uniquely gruesome demise. As the investigation proceeds, evidence points to one man: John Kramer. But how can this be? The man known as Jigsaw has been dead for over a decade. Or has an apprentice picked up the mantle of Jigsaw, perhaps even someone inside the investigation?

We understand that neither Costas Mandylor nor Cary Elwes will be returning to play their respective characters, who both ended up becoming Jigsaw apprentices in earlier installments. As for the original Jigsaw himself, we’ve been told that Tobin Bell will be back in some capacity.

The cast also includes Mandela Van Peebles, Hannah Anderson, Laura Vandervoort, Brittany Allen, Callum Keith Rennie, Matt Passmore, Hannah Emily Anderson, Josiah Black, Shaquan Lewis, Michael Bolsvert, and James Gomez.

Saw: Legacy was written by Josh Stolberg and Pete Goldfinger, the duo behind Piranha 3D, Piranha 3DD, and Sorority Row. In the director’s chairs were the Spierig brothers, Peter and Michael, who brought us Undead, Daybreakers and Predestination.

Franchise staples Mark Burg and Oren Koules returned to produce.



  • pablitonizer

    Oh how original…. this franchise ended/died in part 3 to me.

  • The plot looks nice, I can’t wait to see the film.

  • Michael Huxel

    That’s the plot of literally all the films. You could have just made this article up and it would still sound legit. All in all though, I am a fan of the franchise so I will probably check this out.

    • Matt

      Me too, but on DVD. (When it’s no longer a “new release”.)

  • tyler

    They really need to look at the formula that made 1,2, and 3 so great and the fact that the rest of them sucked. BIG HINT: Jigsaw and Amanda…ALIVE! Saw is famous for twists and turns, so twist and turn the shit so that those 2 were never dead. Ignore that 4 through 7 ever happened and continue after part 3. Hoffman was absolutely the number one factor in the demise of the films. He was irritating, not interesting, not scary, and boring to watch so hopefully they keep him far away from this!

    • Jack Derwent

      Hoffman was boring but it wasn’t that bad of a concept, they just needed a better actor. I was thinking someone like Michael Rooker would have made things interesting.

    • J Jett

      tyler, i love your idea to ignore parts 4-7 and i agree 100000000% that Hoffman ruined this franchise towards the end. literally every and any other character in any of these films was more interesting than he was. i can’t remember, did he kill Jill or did she F him up? i liked Jill a lot and wanted her to end up becoming a hero/protagonist. Amanda & Jill were my faves throughout the series.

      • nowaygetreal

        Hoffman bear-trapped Jill’s face off.

      • Nahuel Benvenuto

        Hoffman was a metaphor for the audience

  • Blade4693

    I guess that old guy will be back via flashbacks showing us some other apprentice(s) he had met years ago that there was absolutely no foreshadowing or build up to just for the sake of this franchise to continue existing lol

    I know I sound like a hater but I used to enjoy these movies, but I think around 4 was where I was like “Ok, this is getting a bit ridiculous lol “

    • disqus_JGr7FxyRat

      It’s a copycat killer, not an apprentice.

      • Blade4693

        That’s not much better lol

        • disqus_JGr7FxyRat

          To be fair, probably the best option if they’re making a sequel no matter what. Better than resurrecting an old villain from the dead or a new apprentice which would inevitably be accompanied by endless flashbacks to explain how and when the apprentice teamed up with Jigsaw, making the already convoluted timeline even more convoluted.

    • Justin McGill

      6 was damn good.. actually I enjoyed all of them aside from the last. The CG blood in 7 was awful.. honestly it was just too compressed. There was meant to be 8 films but the final show down between Hoffman and Jill felt cut short.

    • Chip

      Or it could be a crazy Jigsaw wannabe seeing Jigsaw in hallucinations, encouraging him to play the games.

  • Khy

    So basically what we’ve suspected.

    I’m excited! Hurry up October

  • Darkknight2149

    Sounds like a direct sequel to SAW III in the vain of HALLOWEEN H20 and TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D.

    • Nahuel Benvenuto

      that would be the smart choice,

  • Grimphantom

    How much you’re gonna bet it will flop like the Blair Witch and Rings……

    • Jack Derwent

      Saw was a consistently successful franchise for close to a decade. The same can’t be said for the other two, at least in America (obviously Sadako is much bigger in Japan).

    • Daniel Baldwin

      While it wasn’t the runaway hit that Lionsgate and the filmmakers were clearly expecting, Blair Witch wasn’t a flop. It quadrupled its production budget while in theaters here and ultimately made almost ten times its budget worldwide.

      • Copper

        Maybe not flopped, but it sucked.

        • Carlton Fisher

          Distinctly different things. One is objective, one’s subjective. I thought it was fine.

    • Khy

      Saw will NEVER flop.

  • Mike Lawrence

    Really curious to see what they do with this.

  • J Jett

    P3DD was so god awful but i very much liked their SORORITY ROW. i’m fairly confident the directing in the movie will be very good because (IMO) both DAYBREAKERS and PREDESTINATION were very good. fingers crossed the storyline/script are good.

    • Khy

      They didn’t write P3DD- BD keeps inaccurately reporting that. They only wrote the 2010 remake.

      • Carlton Fisher

        Someone on staff at this place needs to figure out that, while copying and pasting the same material from one article to another over and over again is, in fact, fun, and makes them look longer, it helps if the information is actually accurate. Alternately, they could always fix it before they copied….but… know. Stuff to do.

        • J Jett

          Carlton, i agree 100%. i’m so sick of them copy/pasting the “Katherine Waterston copying Ripley” (or whatever) sentence in every and any article on COVENANT.

      • J Jett

        Khy, thanx for the clarification! that’s good news that they didn’t write P3DD. 🙂

  • Jack Thompson

    Jigsaw never had cancer. He plans so absurdly far ahead that his entire origin story was an elaborate ruse.

  • Craig Walker

    The first Saw movie was a stroke of genius…low budget, brilliantly written and directed…and that twist at the end! Every movie after that felt less and less till it became nothing more than a “You know what Halloween is….its SAW cash in time!”. I hated the last one as Cary Elwes appears like some frickin character from a Scooby doo episode…it was pathetic. The SAW franchise has juice left in it as long as story is written well and directed well like the first….if it doesn’t get great reviews then they will can the franchise for good because no one will give a toss to go see it.

  • RKSDooM

    I got whiplash from how much SAW V sucked and then how shockingly good SAW VI was.

    …Then SAW 3D shit all over the good will that VI earned. Managing to make the headcage trap FINALLY going off seem dull was quite the accomplishment.

    Fingers crossed for SAW VIII – at least they got the best part of the series back, with Tobin Bell returning.

  • nowaygetreal

    Listen, it’s Saw. You know what to expect. I don’t even care if these movies are good anymore, I’ll still watch them. And maybe that makes me part of the problem, but hey, there are worse franchises to continue.

  • Abandoned_Being

    So basically we’re getting the same plot like we did in the last several films.

  • I really hope this is a Saw III or VI type or sequel, and not 3D… God every time I think about that movie I get mad. So much potential wasted with that hot garbage. Zero characters, zero story, zero emotions.

    • Nahuel Benvenuto

      i was really dissapointed too that they fucked up, the story made sense if it was Hoffman who pretended to be Jigsaw and rigged the traps we saw in IV-VI to frame Straham and escape, and the movies were leading to that revelation, but the ruined the whole story with the story of VII, it was obvious Rigg game on IV was only made by Hoffman to cut loose end, as was the game in V to frame Straham, it was obvious he was the one to kill Kerry and fuck everything up so Jigsaw and Amanda died and he could escape and be free, and then in 3D they explain it was all Jigsaw, and they ruined the whole story because of it, but they also kinda changed Jigsaw personality from IV onward so i dont know anymore, i just know they fucked up

      • Exactly. I don’t even consider Saw 3D canon. That’s how bad it is for me. (And god what a stupid name!)

  • Nahuel Benvenuto

    this is the obvious plot we all already know was gonna happen, please they have to pretend like VII never happened

    • Hans

      It did happen. It will remain canon.

  • dukeblues

    I wonder how many horror movies already have or will in the future have the title ______: Legacy? Its a tad un-original

    • Sykes

      It’s not just horror movies. Tron, Bourne, 24, Mortal Kombat…

  • wastheman

    if they dont have Dr.Gordon then dont make the damn movie. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT GORDON DOES AFTER THAT SAW 7 ENDING

  • Could they also return Dr. Gordon and Costas Mandylor’s Hoffman please?

    • Pete Madrona

      Isn’t Hoffman already dead?

      • Nicolas Caiveau

        He was locked in the room from Saw 1 in the end, that’s all we see.

        • Machine Animal

          Wasn’t his corpse seen in one scene when they later returned to that room or do I remember wrong?

        • Jared Wignall

          It was confirmed in the commentary of Saw VII, that Hoffman died.

          • Nicolas Caiveau

            Oh, thanks, I didn’t know.

  • Geno1987

    It turns out Jigsaw had a twin brother who was the one who died in part III, and his brother was the one suffering with the brain tumor.

    • Nick Botic

      I would be so pissed if they used a cheap ass tactic like that. The Saw series deserves so much better. Haha

    • smaug

      I wouldn’t be shocked by anything at this point. They clearly had to retcon a ton of things, in order to include Hoffman in events that happened even before the first movie.

      Still, if they want to keep the integrity of the plot, they better not come with a twin. Don’t dare.

  • The first 2 were okay namely coz the girl was great, the 3rd one had its moments when it attempted to finally explain Jigsaw’s motivation. After that it was a bit like “Oh, look… this again, how… shocking?”. So-called ‘torture porn’ has had its day. I think it’s attempts at being brutal over and over again probably desensitised viewers to it; I’d love to watch a Saw movie without so much of the gore, and more psychological tension… and, well, a story. The original concept was great – but it got old fast.

  • James Allard

    Repealing and/or replacing KramerCare… Nuts, this means that the 7 film blu-ray of the currently existing films I picked up for $15 at Target is now just … a dust catcher.

    • Abandoned_Being

      You paid that much? What a waste.

  • Hans

    After Saw 3D everyone cop or detective involved in the Jigsaw case died, Hoffmann died, Jill died, John’s will was said and done, and Gordon walked away with the last laugh. The whole series wrapped up nicely and it was a fitting concluding chapter for the franchise.

    Make Legacy the beginning of a new storyline. No more apprentices. Let someone else, amazed by the concept of life-appreciating games, take up the mantle of Jigsaw and continue his work. Maybe one of the previous films’ survivors? I just don’t want this new sequel/reboot to revisit the original series and convolute the storyline even more.

  • Renzo Fuentes

    im scared, it supose that all of we are waiting saw 8 to know what happend to Hoffman, what the dr. Gordon is going to do, who was the 2 people who helped him to capture Hoffman, if Adam is alive…there are many questions that should be answered for respect to the fans!

    • smaug

      Well, Adam is dead, very dead. He was killed in the third movie. I don’t think we’ll see him again. We know everything we needed to know about his character.

      Gordon locked Hoffman in the bathroom, because Hoffman failed his game ( or whatever it was, because John predicted he wouldn’t stop ) so he had to be punished for killing Jill, I guess.

      Hoffman is obviously dead, because he got his game over line from Gordon. It’s funny that Hoffman is the only character in the Saw universe to hear game over twice in 2 different movies.

      The 2 guys who helped Gordon to capture Hoffman, were the 2 guys from the opening public trap from Saw 3D, according to the writers. Yep, they can always retcon a ton of things, so maybe we’ll get something in that regard.

  • smaug

    That plot ( if it’s indeed true ) doesn’t make sense.

    First, Jigsaw died in the events of Saw 3 / Saw 4 ( both movies happen almost at the same time ). We got to see his autopsy. So yep, he’s very, very dead.

    Second, why would the evidence point to John Kramer and not Hoffman, for example? Unless the cops found the bathroom and obviously Hoffman’s corpse, people obviously would think it’s Hoffman and not Jigsaw. All the cops were hunting Hoffman in Saw 7 ( 3D ) and he was never found.

    So, I guess they’ll probably have to adress that fact too. The whole 10 years gap is also weird. Why taking too long? Why now?

  • Joel Arkaine

    Okay, I don’t know how accurate any of this is so please don’t shoot the messenger. Back before IMDb closed it’s discussion boards there was a guy on the Saw Legacy board who, from what I understand, had some pretty juicy inside dope. I’ll bullet point some of the things I remember:

    -Apparently Jigsaw’s grave is dug up by the new “apprentice”
    -Tobin Bell was costumed on set as Jigsaw as he appeared in the first movie, (Bald head, soul patch) So if that’s true whatever is the plot device of Legacy started with John way back then.
    – The main trap is confined to a barn/ warehouse and there is a motorcycle trap.
    -Now, these were real, real rumors but: Apparently Cary Elwes and a few of the other actors from Saw 3-D, (Not Costas, though), are actually in the film but in very short cameos where they are killed off, presumably by the “new apprentice/ accomplice”. Lionsgate is trying to keep this very hush-hush to surprise fans. And, Daniel Mathews is supposedly one of the main characters.

    That’s all I really remember and again I’m not saying any of it is true. I’m just passing it along.

    • Abandoned_Being

      So much for spoilers. :/

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