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Rare ‘Alien3’ Footage Shows David Fincher Working with the Effects Team!

Walt Disney is rolling in his grave.

While we do have a Blu-ray release of David Fincher’s Alien3 featuring all sorts of behind-the-scenes footage, studioADI just released something truly special from their VHS vault.

This never-before-seen footage comes from the prep and rehearsals of the Bishop puppet shoot complete with direction from Fincher! You get to be a fly on the wall and watch movie magic in the making as Lance Henriksen’s pre-recorded audio is played in the background while Fincher directs the puppet’s movements right down to the eyes blinking. It’s really interesting to hear Fincher work through the “performance” as he aims for certain words to land with a stronger impact.

This is amazing stuff, and like watching one of Disney’s animatronic puppets if it were from hell.



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31 Comments
  • Hack Snyder

    Alien 3 is underrated. The theatrical cut is a choppily edited mess that deserves most of the shit it gets but the assembly cut is pretty good.

    • GunsOfNavarone

      There has always been something that has bothered me about the special edition though and that is the fact the facehugger impregnates a cow. We’re led to believe that the xeno takes on the characteristics of the host so in Alien 1 / Aliens they’re humanoid. But in Alien 3 it runs on all fours much like a dog, like it erupts from in the theatrical cut. A cow is a slow bulky animal and so it doesn’t really fit that the thing would be so agile. But other than that, I agree with you.

      • wedellbudwhite

        It takes on some characteristics of the host but has its own inherent characteristics its a mix, hence the agility makes perfect sense to me. In aliens they are often on all fours as well as upright and show agility beyond a humans

        • GunsOfNavarone

          Still doesn’t fit for me though, I mean what about the xeno in Alien 3 is bovine like ? – Absolutely nothing. It’s very reminiscent of a grey hound and a lot more streamlined than the xenos in Alien or Aliens.

          • wedellbudwhite

            well its quadrupedal, its back legs are Digitigrade it has a longer torso all bovine traits so no not absolutely nothing. Its really not any more streamlined than xenomorphs in aliens when its a shot of the puppet. The queen has pretty much no human traits, digitigrade back legs and four arms etc but it came from a human https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/aliensheropupsz.jpg?w=523
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/aliensheropuppetside.jpg
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/aliensheropuppettallymebanana.jpg
            https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/alienrodpuppetcrouchblue.jpg
            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wqL767FeCJ0/TZ5i0dxLoVI/AAAAAAAAAfU/Hc-SE9m9ZTE/s1600/alien3.jpg
            http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4ye9622c71qa1o5zo1_500.jpg

          • GunsOfNavarone

            http://www.scified.com/news/hr-giger-alien-3-interview-199293

            Here is an interview with Giger himself who explains that he designed the creature to be ‘doglike’ so I think that puts this conversation to rest however I take back my comment that it shares nothing in common with a cow in that it is (as you quite rightly say) quadrupedal.

          • wedellbudwhite

            The finished design is very different to gigers design. giger was only involved very early in the production( he was treated poorly and was upset by this) the actual creature in the film is designed by studio adi so no it really doesn’t put it to rest at all. https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/alien3gigerhead.jpg?w=788
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/alien3gigerside.jpg?w=788
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/alien3gigerfront.jpg?w=578
            the feet on the rod puppet also has a hoof like shape
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/alien3rodpuppetcunninghamsculptin.jpg?w=540

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Got to disagree with you there. Giger designed the xeno by drawing it out first – he faxed these drawings through to the US but then commissioned a life-size model of it 2nd pic down above which he asked the production company to go over and see. They didn’t (as I’m sure you’re aware) and he was pissed off, swearing to never work with Fox again, hence the ugly designs in Resurrection. What ended up in Alien 3 was Giger’s design transferred from his sketches that he faxed through. The long slender legs in the final image are exactly like the model Giger built. The feet do resemble hooves but they also have a long toe spike on the front, which kangaroos drive into the ground to propel them forward at speed, again going with the dog-like design. I think we may have to just agree to disagree on this one. You’re never going to change my mind about it, just as it’s evident you’re not going to see my viewpoint.

          • wedellbudwhite

            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/alien3gigerconceptos.jpg?w=788
            https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/alien3gigerbluepr.jpg
            come on dude the alien in the film looks very different than gigers sketches, used and inspired by yes but not gigers design transferred straight to puppet/suit. the feet are different,the hands and feet both have spikes that shoot out, it has full voluptuous lips, the tail is shorter and shaped differently, the shoulder pipes are positioned and shaped different. Kangaroos are marsupials not canines so I don’t know what this has to do with the discussion. All I’m saying there’s plenty of bovine traits to believe it came from a cow, as just as many canine traits to say its a dog alien. I actually prefer the dog birthing scene more but i find it believably it came from a cow. the more difficult thing for me is how does a facehugger fit on a cow or dog

          • GunsOfNavarone

            The point about the kangaroo is that the toe spike is used to gain traction for speed so again nothing like a bovine, and the differences you’re pointing out are only aesthetic and not structurally different. The voluptuous lips are talked about in the link I copied you over so that was only expanding on one of Giger’s design choices. Like I say, we will have to agree to disagree. Nothing other than the fact they’re both on 4 feet resembles a bovine to me. In fact the aliens from the hive in alien are more bovine like. Giger said he designed it on a dog and that is exactly what the thing behaves like and looks similar to imo.

          • wedellbudwhite

            A kangaroo toe spike is nothing canine either so has no relevance to this discussion at all
            First you you claimed there was absolutely nothing bovine about every the xenomorphn in in alien 3. I’ve pointed out that
            It walks on all fours
            Has a longer torso
            Has hoof like back feet

            There’s many structural differences (using your terminology) the legs are way different for one. If the whole lips change structure it’s a structural difference

            You say nothing but the four legs are bovine but you said the feet look hoof like

            IF your fimilar with alien 3s production I don’t know why you clinging onto ginger . The script changed the designed changed ang continued to change after he was out

            You asked how it was bovine like and said it had none I pointed out a few and you still won’t except them

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Regarding the toe spike comment – it is relevant, you’re obviously paying no attention to the words I’m typing. I have said it is reminiscent of a greyhound – it runs fast. A bovine is a hulking slow animal that spends it’s days chewing crud and plodding around. The toe spike sits more with an agile animal than a slow animal further adding weight to the fact it is based on a dog. Giger has said it is based on a dog, it looks like a dog, it has a toe spike to help propel it forward. Anyway, I’m bored now so I bid you farewell, the great thing about subjectivity is that at the end of the day we can form our own opinions about things so if a bovine makes you happy, so be it. I’ll go with Giger. Take it easy.

          • wedellbudwhite

            Your clearly the one paying no attention I’ve listed multiple bovine traits that you ignore. Kangaroos don’t even run, never they can’t unlike bovines, they have no sighthound traights other than looking vaguely similar. Giger again had no control over The finished design, I’ll go with facts an logic. ive already said they both make sense, subjectively you haven’t refuted any of my points or opinions, but go be bored

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Lol… I haven’t refuted any ? Seriously ? You go with ‘facts and logic’ and the running cow theory, I’ll go with the greyhound dog-*like* theory and we’re both happy. P.S. Kangaroos don’t run ?! Next you’ll be telling me that frogs don’t either !

          • wedellbudwhite

            And next you’ll be telling me that because frogs have webbed toes the xeno in alien3 doesn’t have any bovine traits. I guess what you looking for in a bovine alien is this
            https://nerditis.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bullalien.jpg

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Let me attempt to explain it in a different light to you. 2 colours – black and white. Different right ? So far so good. Next 2 – Night and Day. Still following ? Get ready for the next revelation – Fast and Slow. Now before you get this one wrong, think about it because I know it’s an easy trap to fall into when you think a cow is an agile streamlined creature. But if you check the previous 2 answers you might finally get it. Good luck.

          • wedellbudwhite

            Let me explain again the xeno takes some traits not all, it has inherent traits otherwise it would come out as the same as the host your caught up on that it should be slow and bulky while ignoring the other bovine traits it has and the traits that are naturally xenomorph . I get it you can’t just say yeah good point it does have bovine traits. Traits you admitted it had after saying it had none

          • GunsOfNavarone

            I said in an earlier reply to you that I take it back and you were correct as it was quadrupedal. I fully accepted that. But as far as the hooves go, they simply look like hooves to you but aren’t necessarily hooves. If you look at the picture of the puppet on it’s rigging that they used for the scenes it clearly has feet like a velociraptor with huge talons. They share no bovine similarity. The general structure of the creature is also very reminiscent of a dog – long back legs for speed, even the posture it takes ready to propel it forward. So winding back to my original reply was that I personally have problems with it coming from a cow because nothing about this new type resonates with a cow for me. Yes they all have their inherit xeno dna but the xeno in Alien 1 doesn’t run – it is upright like a human and moves in a similar fashion. The aliens in aliens are upright / quadrupedal (maybe from livestock) but again don’t move like the alien in alien 3. It’s perfectly reasonable for us just to have a difference of opinion on this matter without one of us having to concede to the other, but my opinion hasn’t changed.

          • wedellbudwhite

            http://cdn2-www.dogtime.com/assets/uploads/2011/01/file_22942_rottweiler.jpg
            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Abondance_cow_profile.jpg/1200px-Abondance_cow_profile.jpg

            Very similar posture and similar proportions in the hind legs. No extra long back legs for speed( they are extra long on the xeno but it didn’t come from either of these animals, I also own a sighthound and its hind legs are not disproportionately long , he gets his speed from being lighter for a dog of similar height and being highly muscular) so the aliens from aliens might somehow on a whole be mixed with livestock to explain there very very different movements from the big chap but 3 coming from a cow is not believable…. Ok

          • GunsOfNavarone

            We agree on the on the xenos in Aliens so that’s something at least. I’m sure you’ve seen the below image before but it was an early screen test for the Xeno in Alien 3 of how they thought they might accomplish it before turning to the miniature model – the dog kept running off apparently (lol). But if you compare the hind legs to the miniature they ended up, you can see what I was getting at.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05d08cd9c2dc7164f336419b4d268bc7f09a1141c35206f5314312ab79ce568b.jpg

          • wedellbudwhite

            I’m fimilar with the whippet alien. It wasn’t a screen test before the puppet it was just ment to be the bambi burster but it didn’t work, they wanted it to run off but it looked goofy. The protruding hips? I don’t see what your getting at? Also don’t think we agre on the Denis in aliens but hey

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Defiant until the end.

            “so the aliens from aliens might somehow on a whole be mixed with livestock to explain there very very different movements from the big chap”

            You’re not making a lot of sense anymore. You reiterate what I have mentioned, I say we seem to agree, you say we don’t. So at this point you’re either not proof reading what you’re typing or you just want to argue for the sake of it. Lets call it a day, I did say this before but we continued on but I’m getting a very argumentative vibe from your messages.

          • PsychoMantis18

            You’re pathetic; you’ve made many weak points only to have them broken by wedellbudwhite, someone who’s shown in this argument to not only know more about this subject than you but who’s also being rational, and all you can come up with is – ‘i’m bored’ and that you’ll go with Giger.

            No – you’re wrong and you won’t go with Giger as you’ve been out-thought, out-Giger-ed and out-Alien-ed.

            You lose.

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Yep you’re spot on the money kid. Are you part of the running cow club too ? And I lose because some idiot who’s hung up about Metal Gear Solid tells me I am ? Lmao.

          • PsychoMantis18

            More nonsense.

  • moebius2249

    “Alien 3”, a movie that still makes me mad when I think about it. What the hell was Fox thinking?

    • Clawson_J

      this is what Fox was thinking $$$$$

      • moebius2249

        Killing off your fanchise isn’t the best way to do that.

        • Clawson_J

          I think when people wanted a sequel back then they were expecting something similar to ALIENS, then I heard in various interviews that there was a new guy running FOX at that time and they were desperate for a hit, so they made Alien 3. Just goes to show they didn’t really care that much other than for it to make profit and they had to go screw David Fincher and even H.R. Giger as well as Vincent Ward.

          • PsychoMantis18

            Well at least Giger had his brain picked by Fincher for the great designs (unlike the garbage featured in Captain Meatheads Aliens).

    • PsychoMantis18

      That after doing one for the kiddies the third film should go back to being directed at the grownups.

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