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‘Talk to Me’ – 7 Things We Learned from the Blu-ray Commentary Track

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The year’s scariest sleeper hit, Talk to Me became A24’s second highest grossing horror film with $48 million at the domestic box office on a $4.5 million budget. The Australian movie marks the feature debut of co-directors Danny and Michael Philippou, who rose to prominence with their YouTube channel, RackaRacka.

The film’s home video release includes an audio commentary with the excitable Australian twins. They begin by stating that they won’t discuss the movie’s themes, as they want to leave it open to interpretation (although they let a few hints slip), but they have plenty of other insight to share.

Here are seven things I learned from the Talk to Me commentary. (Note that the brothers’ voices are nearly identical, but I tried my best to accurately identify the speaker.)


1. The opening shot took 10 takes.

Talk to Me opens with an ambitious, two-minute tracking shot through a house. It took 10 takes to get it right, which is the maximum amount they could do since they had ten doors to break through.

“This is the opening shot, but it was the last scene that we filmed. And right now, when we got this take, this is the tenth take. We had 10 doors, because the door gets smashed,” Michael explains.

“It was getting better and better each time, but it didn’t feel right. We had one last take, because we only had one door left.” They finally got it right after going three hours into overtime.


2. The lead actors appear as extras in the opening scene.

Several of the main actors appear as extras in the opening scene, disguised by wardrobe and out of focus in the background.

“All the actors we put in costume and they’re hidden in the shot,” Michael mentions. Danny points out, “Sophie [Wilde] who plays Mia is in there. Otis [Dhanji] is there, who plays Daniel. Jade [actress Alexandra Jensen] is in there. Joe [Bird] who plays Riley, they’re all there.”

“And I was in it too!” Michael exclaims. Danny notes, “I was meant to be in it but once we started directing we weren’t getting the takes, I was like, ‘I just need to focus on actually getting in the shot,’ so I couldn’t be in it.”


3. Sia allowed the filmmakers to use her song after Lorde turned them down.

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After the filmmakers’ first choice of Lorde’s “Green Light” didn’t work out, Sia allowed her hit song “Chandelier” to appear in the film at a discounted rate.

“This song, we got it for a quarter of the price. There was no way we were going to be able to afford this song,” Danny says. Michael adds, “But Sia is from Adelaide [South Australia], the same city that we grew up.”

“We really tried to get ‘Green Light’ by Lorde, but we got turned down,” notes Danny. “I’m not allowed to say that? Oh well, I said it.”

Beyond music, iPhones and Snapchat also had to be cleared for use on screen, which was important to the filmmakers in order to make the film feel authentic.


4. The Philippous’ sister makes a cameo appearance.

Danny and Michael’s sister, Helene Philippou, makes a brief cameo as the girl getting possessed on Snapchat. She previously appeared in several of her siblings’ internet videos.

“That’s my sister right there! Shout out to Helene. That’s the first thing we shot for the entire movie,” says Michael. “That was the day we were trying to figure out what the possessed look was going to be, so we just had makeup artists and a bunch of artists and explored different looks for the thing.”


5. The production took a budget cut for Sophie Wilde.

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Danny and Michael felt so strongly about casting Sophie Wilde despite being relatively unknown that they took a $1 million budget cut to keep her in the lead role.

“We lost a million dollars out of the budget just by casting Sophie, because some of the people thought she wasn’t a name and all this other stuff, but we felt so passionately about casting her,” explains Danny.

“She is a name, you just don’t know it yet!” interjects Michael. “That’s what we told them. Take as much money as you want, we’re using Sophie.”

“We had to reinvest our fees, and our producer, Sam [Jennings], reinvested her fees. We just did everything we could to get her,” Danny continues. “If one thing comes out of this film, just being able to help present her to the world means so much to me, because I think she’s such a talented performer and she’s going to have a huge career. Same for all of our cast.”


6. The film shot at the Philippous’ high school, renamed after a childhood friend.

The school scene was shot at Para Hills High School, which Danny and Michael attended as teens. For the film, they renamed it Seiuli Hills High School in tribute to their childhood friend.

“This is our old high school, Para Hills High. We’ve changed the name up there to Seiuli Hills High School. That’s actually the last name of our best friend’s sister, Nellie and Ben.” Danny goes on to explain that Nellie encouraged their creative side during their rebellious youth.


7. The hand has great significance to Danny.

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Danny shares a personal story in regards to the significance that hands play in the film:

“I was in a really bad car accident when I was 16, and I’d split my head open just above the eye. They thought I might have broken my spine. I was in hospital, and I just physically couldn’t stop shaking. They didn’t know why I was so cold. The doctors would bring in blankets, turn on heaters. They were trying to get me warm, but I just could not stop shaking.

“My sister came and she sat next to me, and she held my hand and the shaking just stopped. I wasn’t shaking ’cause I was cold; I was shaking ’cause I was in shock, and the touch of someone that I loved brought me out of it. So hands and human connection was a thing that always stood out to me.”

The swelling on Riley’s face after his possession was also based on the injuries Danny sustained in the crash.


Talk to Me is available now on 4K UHD, Blu-ray, DVD, and Digital.

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Forgotten ’80s Satanic Panic Horror Gem ‘The Kiss’ Is Worth Rediscovering

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Joanna Pacula is Felice Dunbar in The Kiss

Horror was thriving so well in the 1980s that movies like Pen Densham’s The Kiss (1988) would understandably get lost in the shuffle, only to then gain their fans later on in life. Even still, this one Canadian-American curio has had a more challenging time than others, as far as contemporary reevaluations go, which is very likely due to the movie’s limited availability—at least as of this write-up.

However, the scarceness of The Kiss, while a bit annoying, makes it like catnip for ‘80s horror completists everywhere. Hopefully, a lot of them will walk away satisfied after watching this hidden gem.

Even though The Kiss was intended as the first of several horror collaborations between Astral Pictures and TriStar, as well as the first feature produced by Densham, Richard B. Lewis and John Watson’s Trilogy Entertainment Group, it ended up being the only one produced from that former union. Once the movie was released, TriStar’s distribution jitters—they opted for a regional rollout—did the $6-million flick no favors. TriStar’s cold feet toward horror releases have been well noted, but The Kiss still did a tad better than Night of the Creeps (1986), another genre outing that flopped due to its regional opening.

Shot in Montreal, but set in Albany, New York, The Kiss—which was still called The Host just a few months before its October premiere—concerns an average middle-class family and their forthcoming situation. The uncanny problem in store for them was, in fact, set in motion some years earlier. As that hot and dusty flashback to the Belgian Congo shows, a familial curse was set upon the two Dunbar sisters well before Meredith Salenger’s teenage character was born.

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Meredith Salenger, Nicholas Kilbertus and Mimi Kuzyk in The Kiss

The Kiss, which was based on a story by co-writer Stephen Volk (Ghostwatch) and penned by both Volk and Tom Ropelewski, has the outward appearance of The Stepfather (1987). This movie, though, is anything but a gender-flipped retread of that classic domestic disturber. For starters, The Kiss is far less grounded in reality—that much is clear from its unsettling opening scene. There, a trusting girl (Priscilla Mouzakiotis) is the victim of her own deceptive aunt (Céline Lomez); the movie’s titular act, and the story’s first shock, becomes the means of transferring an ancient evil from one host to another.

In the present day, Salenger’s role of Amy Halloran, a religious schoolgirl, is dealt a harsh blow in life once her mother, Hilary Halloran née Dunbar (Pamela Collyer), suddenly dies in a freak accident. But rather than a complete stranger sweeping the Halloran widower (Nicholas Kilbertus) off his feet some months later, Joanna Pacula’s character is that chosen temptress. Here, Pacula plays the grown-up version of the afflicted girl last seen in the movie’s opener. Since Amy’s mother is insistent about there being no reunion between estranged sisters, and she even contemplates buying a gun shortly before her tragic demise, it’s presumable that Aunt Felice poses a threat to her family.

The Kiss isn’t a movie ever too concerned about its own predictability. The audience is indeed often one step ahead of the story here, but also keep in mind how every one of those steps is loud. Take, for instance, the death of Amy’s mother; the Halloran matriarch goes out in garish, gruesome fashion, as a supernaturally commandeered truck sends Collyer’s character through a store window first, then leaves her one leg short. The directorial enthusiasm truly comes out in horrific moments such as these.

The Kiss is always sure to revel in its characters’ ills and misfortunes. So if the plot doesn’t impress, then its lurid parts should. Amy’s mother’s exit scene was proof of an eager, first-time horror director proving his worth. Then, bestie Heather (Sabrina Boudot) survives to tell the tale of a bizarre escalator mishap that, despite showing relatively less gore, spikes viewers’ empathy meter. The wilder bits of this movie, however, commence with that inevitable hookup between Felice and Amy’s bewitched father; their kitchen coitus is paralleled by Amy’s feverish classroom terror. The outcome there is a disquieting cross-cut of sex magic and a young woman’s menstrual onset plus hallucinations.

Sabrina Boudot in The Kiss

From foam appliances to bladders, that parade of special effects in The Kiss casts its own spell on the audience. Felice’s familiar, a visibly malevolent cat, was realized here with several models, some more articulate than others. Admittedly, the demon cat’s not as convincing as most of the effects here, but accepting that artifice, as opposed to fighting it, will make the whole experience way more enjoyable. As for the makeup used to manifest Felice’s inner villainy, it is more minimal and subtle than one might like; yet the work done to turn Pacula into an antithesis of herself is nonetheless compelling.

The otherworldly perils and dreadful goings-on wouldn’t work half as well as they do in The Kiss without the story’s contrast effect. Finding frights in picturesque, extremely ordinary settings was something that took off in the ‘80s, thanks to that sweeping shift to locales like the suburbs. And Amy’s home, a replica of a real Montreal suburban house, is the ideal battleground for any proper good-versus-evil story. It’s also prime real estate for this movie’s satanic panic-inspired horrors.

Because of their ostensibly similar plots, The Kiss has been compared to The Exorcist (1973). Except in Densham’s movie, the sinister, non-Christian entity targeting a teen girl lies within something less apparent and, perhaps, more devastating upon its exposure. To an outsider, Pacula’s Aunt Felice is too beautiful and unobjectionable to ever suspect of being a monster. More suspicious is how quickly she rips into the fabric of the Halloran home. Felice’s mere presence upsets the “texture of family life,” according to the director.

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The demon cat in The Kiss

Taking out Amy’s mother and best friend, and distracting her father, would suggest The Kiss is playing by a different set of rules. It is initially leaving its adolescent target unsupported in a rather grim scenario. In contrast, though, this story offers up a surrogate parent who does her best to fill in the holes of Amy’s eroding home life. Mimi Kuzyk does good work as that family friend and doctor, Brenda, who guides the lost child without also steering her in any one direction; she is naturally skeptical of Amy’s accusations until it’s almost too late to do anything about them. So although The Kiss does an admirable job of undoing the main character’s support system, it never leaves her without a lifeline. This dark movie, in spite of everything that’s transpired, doesn’t deprive itself of light and hope.

The Kiss is a potent mélange of familiar ideas. If not for the director’s surprise flair for horror, though, the movie would have been less effective. What a shame that Pen Densham didn’t continue with the genre. As for Joanna Pacula, she is, too, owed credit as the wicked vixen opposite Meredith Salenger’s pitiable Amy; she never fails to be unsettling in her role. Pacula makes Aunt Felice a sexy yet intimidating character.

For horror that steadily doles out madness and menace, while also delivering a flashy and ghastly conclusion, The Kiss is certain to please. Yes, it’s cheesy all the way, but most favorably, everyone involved plays everything straight. That kind of commitment goes a long way with this movie.

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