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‘Talk to Me’ – 7 Things We Learned from the Blu-ray Commentary Track

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The year’s scariest sleeper hit, Talk to Me became A24’s second highest grossing horror film with $48 million at the domestic box office on a $4.5 million budget. The Australian movie marks the feature debut of co-directors Danny and Michael Philippou, who rose to prominence with their YouTube channel, RackaRacka.

The film’s home video release includes an audio commentary with the excitable Australian twins. They begin by stating that they won’t discuss the movie’s themes, as they want to leave it open to interpretation (although they let a few hints slip), but they have plenty of other insight to share.

Here are seven things I learned from the Talk to Me commentary. (Note that the brothers’ voices are nearly identical, but I tried my best to accurately identify the speaker.)


1. The opening shot took 10 takes.

Talk to Me opens with an ambitious, two-minute tracking shot through a house. It took 10 takes to get it right, which is the maximum amount they could do since they had ten doors to break through.

“This is the opening shot, but it was the last scene that we filmed. And right now, when we got this take, this is the tenth take. We had 10 doors, because the door gets smashed,” Michael explains.

“It was getting better and better each time, but it didn’t feel right. We had one last take, because we only had one door left.” They finally got it right after going three hours into overtime.


2. The lead actors appear as extras in the opening scene.

Several of the main actors appear as extras in the opening scene, disguised by wardrobe and out of focus in the background.

“All the actors we put in costume and they’re hidden in the shot,” Michael mentions. Danny points out, “Sophie [Wilde] who plays Mia is in there. Otis [Dhanji] is there, who plays Daniel. Jade [actress Alexandra Jensen] is in there. Joe [Bird] who plays Riley, they’re all there.”

“And I was in it too!” Michael exclaims. Danny notes, “I was meant to be in it but once we started directing we weren’t getting the takes, I was like, ‘I just need to focus on actually getting in the shot,’ so I couldn’t be in it.”


3. Sia allowed the filmmakers to use her song after Lorde turned them down.

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After the filmmakers’ first choice of Lorde’s “Green Light” didn’t work out, Sia allowed her hit song “Chandelier” to appear in the film at a discounted rate.

“This song, we got it for a quarter of the price. There was no way we were going to be able to afford this song,” Danny says. Michael adds, “But Sia is from Adelaide [South Australia], the same city that we grew up.”

“We really tried to get ‘Green Light’ by Lorde, but we got turned down,” notes Danny. “I’m not allowed to say that? Oh well, I said it.”

Beyond music, iPhones and Snapchat also had to be cleared for use on screen, which was important to the filmmakers in order to make the film feel authentic.


4. The Philippous’ sister makes a cameo appearance.

Danny and Michael’s sister, Helene Philippou, makes a brief cameo as the girl getting possessed on Snapchat. She previously appeared in several of her siblings’ internet videos.

“That’s my sister right there! Shout out to Helene. That’s the first thing we shot for the entire movie,” says Michael. “That was the day we were trying to figure out what the possessed look was going to be, so we just had makeup artists and a bunch of artists and explored different looks for the thing.”


5. The production took a budget cut for Sophie Wilde.

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Danny and Michael felt so strongly about casting Sophie Wilde despite being relatively unknown that they took a $1 million budget cut to keep her in the lead role.

“We lost a million dollars out of the budget just by casting Sophie, because some of the people thought she wasn’t a name and all this other stuff, but we felt so passionately about casting her,” explains Danny.

“She is a name, you just don’t know it yet!” interjects Michael. “That’s what we told them. Take as much money as you want, we’re using Sophie.”

“We had to reinvest our fees, and our producer, Sam [Jennings], reinvested her fees. We just did everything we could to get her,” Danny continues. “If one thing comes out of this film, just being able to help present her to the world means so much to me, because I think she’s such a talented performer and she’s going to have a huge career. Same for all of our cast.”


6. The film shot at the Philippous’ high school, renamed after a childhood friend.

The school scene was shot at Para Hills High School, which Danny and Michael attended as teens. For the film, they renamed it Seiuli Hills High School in tribute to their childhood friend.

“This is our old high school, Para Hills High. We’ve changed the name up there to Seiuli Hills High School. That’s actually the last name of our best friend’s sister, Nellie and Ben.” Danny goes on to explain that Nellie encouraged their creative side during their rebellious youth.


7. The hand has great significance to Danny.

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Danny shares a personal story in regards to the significance that hands play in the film:

“I was in a really bad car accident when I was 16, and I’d split my head open just above the eye. They thought I might have broken my spine. I was in hospital, and I just physically couldn’t stop shaking. They didn’t know why I was so cold. The doctors would bring in blankets, turn on heaters. They were trying to get me warm, but I just could not stop shaking.

“My sister came and she sat next to me, and she held my hand and the shaking just stopped. I wasn’t shaking ’cause I was cold; I was shaking ’cause I was in shock, and the touch of someone that I loved brought me out of it. So hands and human connection was a thing that always stood out to me.”

The swelling on Riley’s face after his possession was also based on the injuries Danny sustained in the crash.


Talk to Me is available now on 4K UHD, Blu-ray, DVD, and Digital.

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‘See No Evil’ – WWE’s First Horror Movie Was This 2006 Slasher Starring Kane

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With there being an overlap between wrestling fans and horror fans, it only made sense for WWE Studios to produce See No Evil. And much like The Rock’s Walking Tall and John Cena’s The Marine, this 2006 slasher was designed to jumpstart a popular wrestler’s crossover career; superstar Glenn “Kane” Jacobs stepped out of the ring and into a run-down hotel packed with easy prey. Director Gregory Dark and writer Dan Madigan delivered what the WWE had hoped to be the beginning of “a villain franchise in the vein of Jason, Freddy and Pinhead.” In hindsight, See No Evil and its unpunctual sequel failed to live up to expectations. Regardless of Jacob Goodnight’s inability to reach the heights of horror’s greatest icons, his films are not without their simple slasher pleasures.

See No Evil (previously titled Goodnight and Eye Scream Man) was a last gasp for a dying trend. After all, the Hollywood resurgence of big-screen slashers was on the decline by the mid-2000s. Even so, that first Jacob Goodnight offering is well aware of its genre surroundings: the squalid setting channels the many torturous playgrounds found in the Saw series and other adjacent splatter pics. Also, Gregory Dark’s first major feature — after mainly delivering erotic thrillers and music videos  — borrows the mustardy, filthy and sweaty appearance of Platinum Dunes’ then-current horror output. So, visually speaking, See No Evil fits in quite well with its contemporaries.

Despite its mere  setup — young offenders are picked off one by one as they clean up an old hotel — See No Evil is more ambitious than anticipated. Jacob Goodnight is, more or less, another unstoppable killing machine whose traumatic childhood drives him to torment and murder, but there is a process to his mayhem. In a sense, a purpose. Every new number in Goodnight’s body count is part of a survival ritual with no end in sight. A prior and poorly mended cranial injury, courtesy of Steven Vidler’s character, also influences the antagonist’s brutal streak. As with a lot of other films where a killer’s crimes are religious in nature, Goodnight is viscerally concerned with the act of sin and its meaning. And that signature of plucking out victims’ eyes is his way of protecting his soul.

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Image: The cast of See No Evil enters the Blackwell Hotel.

Survival is on the mind of just about every character in See No Evil, even before they are thrown into a life-or-death situation. Goodnight is processing his inhumane upbringing in the only way he can, whereas many of his latest victims have committed various crimes in order to get by in life. The details of these offenses, ranging from petty to severe, can be found in the film’s novelization. This more thorough media tie-in, also penned by Madigan, clarified the rap sheets of Christine (Christina Vidal), Kira (Samantha Noble), Michael (Luke Pegler) and their fellow delinquents. Readers are presented a grim history for most everyone, including Vidler’s character, Officer Frank Williams, who lost both an arm and a partner during his first encounter with the God’s Hand Killer all those years ago. The younger cast is most concerned with their immediate wellbeing, but Williams struggles to make peace with past regrets and mistakes.

While the first See No Evil film makes a beeline for its ending, the literary counterpart takes time to flesh out the main characters and expound on scenes (crucial or otherwise). The task requires nearly a third of the book before the inmates and their supervisors even reach the Blackwell Hotel. Yet once they are inside the death trap, the author continues to profile the fodder. Foremost is Christine and Kira’s lock-up romance born out of loyalty and a mutual desire for security against their enemies behind bars. And unlike in the film, their sapphic relationship is confirmed. Meanwhile, Michael’s misogyny and bigotry are unmistakable in the novelization; his racial tension with the story’s one Black character, Tye (Michael J. Pagan), was omitted from the film along with the repeated sexual exploitation of Kira. These written depictions make their on-screen parallels appear relatively upright. That being said, by making certain characters so prickly and repulsive in the novelization, their rare heroic moments have more of an impact.

Madigan’s book offers greater insight into Goodnight’s disturbed mind and harrowing early years. As a boy, his mother regularly doled out barbaric punishments, including pouring boiling water onto his “dangling bits” if he ever “sinned.” The routine maltreatment in which Goodnight endured makes him somewhat sympathetic in the novelization. Also missing from the film is an entire character: a back-alley doctor named Miles Bennell. It was he who patched up Goodnight after Williams’ desperate but well-aimed bullet made contact in the story’s introduction. Over time, this drunkard’s sloppy surgery led to the purulent, maggot-infested head wound that, undoubtedly, impaired the hulking villain’s cognitive functions and fueled his violent delusions.

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Image: Dan Madigan’s novelization for See No Evil.

An additional and underlying evil in the novelization, the Blackwell’s original owner, is revealed through random flashbacks. The author described the hotel’s namesake, Langley Blackwell, as a deviant who took sick pleasure in defiling others (personally or vicariously). His vile deeds left a dark stain on the Blackwell, which makes it a perfect home for someone like Jacob Goodnight. This notion is not so apparent in the film, and the tie-in adaptation says it in a roundabout way, but the building is haunted by its past. While literal ghosts do not roam these corridors, Blackwell’s lingering depravity courses through every square inch of this ill-reputed establishment and influences those who stay too long.

The selling point of See No Evil back then was undeniably Kane. However, fans might have been disappointed to see the wrestler in a lurking and taciturn role. The focus on unpleasant, paper-thin “teenagers” probably did not help opinions, either. Nevertheless, the first film is a watchable and, at times, well-made straggler found in the first slasher revival’s death throes. A modest budget made the decent production values possible, and the director’s history with music videos allowed the film a shred of style. For meatier characterization and a harder demonstration of the story’s dog-eat-dog theme, though, the novelization is worth seeking out.

Jen and Sylvia Soska, collectively The Soska Sisters, were put in charge of 2014’s See No Evil 2. This direct continuation arrived just in time for Halloween, which is fitting considering its obvious inspiration. In place of the nearly deserted hospital in Halloween II is an unlucky morgue receiving all the bodies from the Blackwell massacre. Familiar face Danielle Harris played the ostensible final girl, a coroner whose surprise birthday party is crashed by the  resurrected God’s Hand Killer. In an effort to deliver uncomplicated thrills, the Soskas toned down the previous film’s heavy mythos and religious trauma, as well as threw in characters worth rooting for. This sequel, while more straightforward than innovative, pulls no punches and even goes out on a dark note.

The chances of seeing another See No Evil with Kane attached are low, especially now with Glenn Jacobs focusing on a political career. Yet there is no telling if Jacob Goodnight is actually gone, or if he is just playing dead.

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Image: Katharine Isabelle and Lee Majdouba’s characters don’t notice Kane’s Jacob Goodnight character is behind them in See No Evil 2.

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