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Say Hasta La Vista to the ‘Terminator’ Franchise?

I think the report below is a bit hyperbolic, but according to NY Daily News, Paramount Pictures has killed The Terminator.

The site explains that Paramount execs have decided not to pick up their option to bring Arnold Schwarzenegger and “Game of Thrones’” Emilia Clarke back for additional movies in the series.

The move comes in spite of the fact that the fifth Terminator movie — 2015’s widely panned Terminator Genisys — raked in almost $300 million in profits.

“It is over for ‘The Terminator’ and Arnold,” said their Los Angeles-based source. “The studio has taken the sequel off the production slate completely, meaning there is no preproduction or any plans for another sequel. The talent had been offered long term deals, but this is not happening.

“The ‘Genisys’ movie was seen as a way of reviving (the franchise), but the critics were not happy and somehow the studio bosses fell out of love with making more, even though they made huge profits,” we’re told.

The reason this feels like hyperbole is because Paramount is simply a distributor, and may have also been frightened off by recent reports that franchise creator James Cameron is on the cusp on regaining his rights. This would mean that Paramount would have needed the next film in production by the end of this year to avoid potential legal battles in 2019. The confidence is already low on the franchise, and with Paramount allegedly in a crisis from the top on down (Michael De Luca recently turned down top vice-chairman role), it’s unclear what direction the studio will take.  With the failure of Rings and the shutting down of Friday the 13th, there’s a lot going on behind the scenes that we know nothing about.

The question remains, however, as to how Cameron could revive the franchise on his own when he’s focused on his unnecessary and long-gestured and even longer delayed Avatar sequels. Could he find an international and independent backer to get another film in the franchise financed? Sure. And with China throwing money all over Hollywood, I could even see that as an option.

It’s probably best that Paramount isn’t behind the next Terminator film because, let’s be honest, they’re all uninspired at this point. Knowing the franchise is dead is probably better than suffering through another disappointment. I’d rather wait and see what Cameron can pull off once he’s finished shooting his Avatar films.

What do you guys think? Will the Terminator be back?



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  • Aaron King

    This could be a good thing. We don’t need another one. And I’d like to see another Friday, but not if it’s another reboot.

  • Marcin Robakowski

    one less on the list, still to kill: predator, saw, fast & furious, aliens etc etc…or any reboot, re imagination and other shit that comes from hollywood these days…

  • oh_riginal

    I love T1 and T2. T3 has a great ending, and that’s all it can claim. T: Salvation was piss soaked garbage on fire in a coal factory. Genisys is a step up from that, but only in that it’s not in a coal factory.

    The only Terminator ideas that could work would be a “prequel” to the original, about the mission to defeat Skynet and send Kyle Reese back in time, but Genisys kinda ruined the potential since they sorta showed that already. I would still want to see a film set in the future with giant HK’s, soldiers with pipe bombs, and purple lasers against a never ending night sky.

    The only other idea would be to reveal that the John Connor we know is NOT the John Connor that originally defeated Skynet. This is more to fix a plot hole than anything, but say that when Kyle Reese went back in time he unknowingly “intercepted” the original father, pushing him out of the situation and changing everything in the process. That would mean that the John Connor we’ve been following since T2 would be an entirely different person trying to live up to the legend of a John Connor that he could never be.

  • Matt

    There’s no way in hell that we’ve seen the last of the Terminator. While it likely won’t be starring Arnie, I believe it was Mr. S who said it best: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff7cf2596e090441e66c608d32b3e999e5c3e2ed7fc7562fcc476bf688b41154.gif

  • KSE1977

    More and more I am in favor of killing these old series films. Let’s find something new or possibly even, dare I say, original. Let Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street and Terminator go. They had their run. Maybe its time for new franchises to be born.

    • Saltoner

      AMEN!

    • Horrible Day

      I want to see Nightmare die, without Robert Englund it will never be the same, but I don’t I don’t want Friday the 13th to die because no matter how much I want new and original slasher movies Friday the 13th films are pretty much a guaranteed success so they get bigger budgets and bigger budgets in slasher movies mean better practical effects

  • Ocelot006 .

    What the fuck? Duh. They already announced the Cameron produced sequel with Tim Miller. How is this news? They took the Paramount sequel off the schedule forever ago.

    This is the biggest bullshit headline I’ve ever seen.

    ‘Terminator is gone even though they’ve already announced it’s coming back with James Cameron but just to be clear that canceled sequel has been extra canceled.’ Stop diluting a good site with bullshit.

    • Mike

      Exactly. It should read ” Any Terminator projects WITHOUT Cameron have been shelved”.

  • Chris Genth

    Arnold will be back! Well maybe, he’s up there in age!

  • Keith Sunkes

    waiting for Terminator 2 3D in theatres and 3D Blu Ray

  • Ocelot006 .

    http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3421949/terminator-shocker-james-cameron-regaining-rights-plans-conclude-franchise/

    Here’s a link to this website with movie news that answers the question of ‘will the Terminator be back?’

    You guys should check this site out. Pretty neat.

  • ShadowInc

    I’d rather see more TERMINATOR movies than more AVATAR movies.

    • Ted C

      Sucks to be you.

      • ShadowInc

        Nah, it’s pretty awesome.

  • KennyThaKilla

    The story was too convoluted, that’s why it was panned. They jumped the shark.

    But Terminator will be back in some shape or form eventually.

  • KLD

    I doubt very much that this flick made any money for Paramount. My guess is that it lost a bundle. Certainly no where near a 300 million profit. Good article:

    http://www.boxofficeflops.com/articles/when-does-a-movie-break-even-at-the-box-office/

    • johnhelvete

      Yes it looks like the NY Daily News article was basing the “almost 300 million in profits” on the international gross of the movie minus the budget. The NY Daily News appears to be skipping things like marketing cost and the percentage the studio gets back from the theaters.

  • Saltoner

    1 and 2 were great, the others were bleh, so fine with me.

    • Rick-Taylor

      I say the same thing with the Alien franchise.

  • I like Genesys because is way better than Terminator Salvation, but it’s kind of pretentious. They should have chosen to maintain the vibe of the original films, increase the violence, decrease in the CGI and ignore the confused plot.

  • Genesys had an overall good idea, just a piss poor execution! If there is to be a third movie, I want it with Cameron, Hamilton, Schwarzenegger, and to a lesser extent Furlong. They were the ones that made the series… I’d love to see whatever Cameron’s take on a third movie would be (ignoring all the other movies). I’d be quite happy to see them jump into the future war figuring out what the hell to do and how to stop it… all of them.

  • Ted C

    Finally! It should have stopped after 2

  • Carl Chrystan

    There’s simply no more Terminators because Skynet has almost completed its plans and by the time the next film is wrapped they’d have made us all toast!

  • Ocelot006 .

    I’m not understanding how this is having traction on other sites as well. We have David Ellison himself today saying that there will be some big Terminator news this year. We’ve already been told Jim Cameron and Tim Miller are making their own sequel. I think everybody just got stupid today.

    • You’re right. I think in this case the NY Daily News quote is taken out of context. The Terminator Franchise has a bright future BUT it’s over for Arnie.

  • pablitonizer

    GeneSHIT was a complete joke!!! I feel so bad everytime I catch it on cable….how could they do such a thing like that? Erasing the only AMAZING things Terminator ever had (1 & 2)?? SERIOUSLY? Let T800 rest in peace for goods and let’s all move on. This is really good news, Arnold was a joke on that movie!

  • El_Fez

    And nothing of value was lost.

  • They should just leave this franchise alone. T2 was perfect, T3 was an entertaining mess, t4 a dud and TG one of the worst blockbusters in memory. Stop already. It is dead

    • Creepshow

      This sums it up perfectly.

  • Joe Smith

    Emilia Clarke is only a good actress when her top is off or she’s banging a guy. She never should have been in this movie.

    • KennyThaKilla

      Such disrespect for Khaleesi.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    I didn’t mind Genisys till the story went full on Metal Gear Solid mode toward the end. I dig MGS in all its overly-complex, convoluted glory, but not real interested in seeing that kind of formula in a Terminator universe. By the time the credits rolled I was legit convinced Kojima must’ve had something to do with the writing.

  • Bloodspatta

    Just stop. This franchise is dead. T1 and T2 are 2 of the greatest sci fi films ever. Can’t recapture that magic. Stop flogging a dead horse.

  • Necrogeddon666

    This franchise ended in 1991. Everything since has been garbage.

  • Weresmurf

    Moviebob had a fantastic idea on how to actually continue the series, they should follow that, other than that, everything after part 2 has been utter shit.

  • Abandoned_Being

    First two were great, third film was a rehash of the second one(in a way), fourth was a disaster and I haven’t bothered with the fifth film.

  • ElGigante

    The only loss is the Terminator Genisys miniatures game, great ruleset attached to a bad license.

  • Simon Allen

    It has now already been confirmed that The Terminator WILL be back just not as a sequel to Genisys but as a reboot which will apparently “give the fans what they have wanted since T2” according to producer David Ellison .
    Just Saying .

  • Terminator is like ripe, low-hanging fruit. How has it come to this?

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