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Danielle Harris Offers More Thoughts On Jamie Lloyd Being Retconned Out of ‘Halloween’

Franchise icon Danielle Harris made headlines here in the horror community last month when she opened up about her thoughts on the direction the Halloween franchise is headed, expressing her sadness about Jamie Lloyd being retconned out of the series – after all, next year’s film will operate as if only Carpenter’s original exists.

I’m bummed out. And here’s why I’m bummed out,” Harris said in a YouTube video. “What I am bummed about is… [Laurie Strode] has a daughter. They’re saying it’s the last one and… she has a daughter. And it’s not Jamie. It’s just kind of a bummer, I guess.

As a reminder, Judy Greer was recently cast to play Laurie Strode’s daughter in David Gordon Green’s Halloween, whose name will presumably *not* be Jamie.

While on the interview circuit to promote her new film Inoperable, Harris has naturally been asked about the much-talked-about video. First up, she told Birth Movies Death that she’s still holding out hope that maybe, just maybe, she’ll someday return to the series.

They keep saying this is Halloween 3 and they’re never going to make another one. But somewhere along the way, if they make a Halloween 4, I think it would be really cool to have Jamie come back,” Harris told the site. “I’ve kinda always wanted to be the killer. But, you know, Michael is the killer. I think it would be cool to be Jamie just one more time for one scene with Jamie Lee Curtis. That’s really what I want to be at the end of the day. And then I can be done with that.”

In a chat with Daily Dead, Harris noted that despite not being asked back, she’s still excited to check out David Gordon Green’s film when it’s released next October.

I’ll absolutely go to the theater and see it for sure. I’m a fan first and foremost,” Harris said. “I am looking forward to them bringing it back to the way I think it needed to be. It kind of took a pretty intense hard left I would say, so I am looking forward to seeing it. I’m hoping that it goes back to the old school with Carpenter involved. I’m assuming that that’s going to be where they go with it. I always believe less is more, so maybe it’ll get a chance to do that and I really would love to see Michael back and in his original mask and see Jamie Lee [Curtis] back up there.”

She added, I mean, I am bummed that I’m not a part of something that could be super cool, especially if it’s the last one—that’s just so sad that it’s done—but I’ve done four movies. I’m more than happy with what I had from that franchise so far. Maybe one day I’ll meet Jamie Lee [Curtis], we’ll see, but I definitely 100% will be at the theater checking it out.”



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  • Brett Lovejoy

    She’s hurting for that paycheck!

    • Grimphantom

      Same goes to Bruce Campbell, Kane Hodder who they reprise their roles even when they are too old now.

      • Saturn

        I dunno, with the character of Ash I wouldn’t be too upset if Campbell reprised the role again while in his 70’s.
        An older, much more bitter, Ash could work well.

        • Grimphantom

          True but to bring out the point how some are in favor of actors that want to return to the franchise they started and with others they give them the death stare and let it go.

  • I understand what Danielle Harris is saying, but the new film is under absolutely no obligation to bring this character back. This is a completely new continuity and new chapter in the franchise, meant to take Halloween back to its roots. People say that making a direct sequel to the original is confusing, but putting a character in the film from a non-canon movie for the sake of fan service is infinitely more convoluted. There’s simply no logical reason to do so.

    • pablitonizer

      I’m assuming she doesn’t fully understand the plot behind the new halloween. She says they’re pretending to be H3 (?) when this is a direct sequel to the original halloween and then she starts with H4 shit and makes even less sense. Perhaps she never understood the timelines in halloween franchise, Laurie and herself are not on the same universe…

      • Grimphantom

        Does this apply on all the franchises we saw like Nightmare, Texas Chainsaw and Friday the 13th? Because their continuity it’s pretty messed up as much as Halloween.

  • Graham

    I didn’t even think about this until I read this article. She makes a good point, it would be cool to bring Jamie back into the fold, since the story will involve Laurie’s daughter anyway. However, it would be more complicated as they’d have to retcon even more than they already are. At least this way, they can say “just ignore all the sequels.” If they brought Jamie back, it would be “ignore bits and pieces from all sequels.” Personally, I’d be cool with that, but it might confuse the mainstream audience, and would almost definitely piss off at least a few hardcore fans.

    • Yes, it would confuse pretty much everyone who isn’t a hardcore fan (which is the same reason that half the general audience thinks the new Leatherface film is a reboot of Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning). There really isn’t any reason to do it, other than to please a minority of fans.

  • Even if the new film was set in the original continuity, people forget that Jamie and Laurie are both dead. And in the Halloween H20 timeline (which already erased most of the sequels), Laurie is dead and Jamie doesn’t exist. This fan service that people complain we’re not getting was never going to happen to begin with. Judge the new Halloween by what it is, not what you wish it was.

  • john

    Her whining on this is getting annoying.

    I feel for her on the Halloween 6 issue. Beyond that… you’re there to serve the franchise. Not the other way around. I mean, Jamie was only a character in the first place because Jamie Lee Curtis didn’t come back. The films, characters, and actors are what that particular installment of the franchise needs them to be. Enjoy the light while it’s on you.

    Besides, you were retconned out 20 years ago in H20.

    It just seems like she feels entitled to be a part of this franchise or something.

    Yeah, Laurie has a daughter… and Jamie’s mother died– and no, she didn’t fake her death, become Keri Tate and abandon her daughter. It’s a different timeline all together.

    H40 is going back to the first movie exclusively. This isn’t personal. Deal with it.

    • ^This

    • MODOK

      I don’t think it’s a sense of entitlement, just sadness that her character isn’t part of the franchise anymore. What’s wrong with that? I’d be bummed too if I was particularly fond of a character or enjoyed playing the part, only to be told the character had ceased to exist. It’s not like she’s claiming she’s indispensable or is hoping the new movie fails without her.

      It’s an interview, and she’s being asked about it. Of course she’s going to answer.

      • john

        Because she’s lying to fans and herself about whether that character exists or not and whether it’d make any sense at all if she turned up in this film.

        Her character does not exist in the timeline they’re working from.
        Her character didn’t exist in the last Jamie Lee Curtis timeline the franchise used either.

        Also, when you participate in the remakes, you lose your right to complain about being deleted/not included. You had a hand in deleting an entire franchise. What goes around, comes around.

        She got to play Jamie in two films and Annie in two films. You don’t see the actress who plays Rachel publicly lobbying to be in the flick. Danielle didn’t seem to have a problem with taking-on Nancy Kyes role in the remake. I didn’t notice Jamie Lee Curtis out there saying, “I just want a cameo in the remake.”

        Again, I feel for Danielle on Halloween 6. I can understand a desire to be in the new flick. I can understand having grown up in the shadow of Jamie Lee Curtis that it would be nice to work with her. I can’t understand this public lobbying for the part with bum information and no consideration for how convoluted the idea is.

      • Boydon

        her character ceased to exist in part 6, which she exited over a salary dispute. so much for the fondness. listen, i get it, the woman is gigging and wants a part in a highly anticipated sequel. who can blame her for hustling but let’s not pretend she’s bummed out because she doesn’t get to play a character she last portrayed 30 years ago.

        • Grimphantom

          Same with Jamie Lee Curtis on Resurrection, not to mention on H20 she had a son BUT she’s returning once more in this new version! So that applies to Kane Hodder who also desperately wants to play Jason again?

          • Boydon

            what you and danielle harris apparently do not get is that several halloween timelines established after the first one do not exist. so no questionable abandonment of the daughter, no staging her death, no cult, no son, no private boarding school, no ll cool j and certainly no resurrection. END OF. the faster you accept this, the less painful it will be.

          • Grimphantom

            Then why bring Danielle Harris’s character being dead on Halloween 6? You could’ve put it with a simple sentence “From 2 and 8, those movies don’t exist” plain and simple yet you come up babbling over nonsense where you need to prove yourself right.

            You have to accept as well why she feels this way, i don’t see no one complaining Kane Hodder wanted to be on Freddy vs. Jason and telling him “let it go, someone else took the role, move on” or Kevin Bacon that he NOW wants to be in Tremors when he didn’t want anything to do to begin with yet everyone is cool that he’s returning for the new series.

          • Boydon

            lol calm down dorothy. you have a hard-on for kane hodder, don’t you? the reason why i’m bringing up halloween 6 is because danielle’s so intent on continuing a timeline in which her character is dead, she and her rabid fans (all three of you) need serious reminding. it’s borderline desperate and would make no kind of sense.

          • Grimphantom

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/afaa95b390ff605fad9cd8bab0af6108d30a81cfaea0f4dca5ec77387a88a036.gif
            You guys are the ones making a big deal out of this, especially when everyone here what they really want is to hate this movie and i know many will when it’s release.

  • Jay Bennett

    Addressing it once was enough, but now its a bit tedious

    • Graham

      She brought it up once, but it’s not her fault people keep asking her about it.

  • pablitonizer

    Oh I see in the interview that this woman is pretty resentful till this day:
    Interviewer: If Jamie was to ever return, who do you think she’d be today in 2017?
    Danielle: She’d be mad that her mom doesn’t show any recognition to the fact that she exists [chuckles]

    Gurl, move on once and for all!

  • Will Coors

    Honestly, I have to respect her cause she’s such a fan. She’s right that it would be really something special & cool if her and Jamie did one scene together! Fans would love that. I have to give her respect on that part especially cause she said she will be buying a ticket. At least she’s keeping it real.

  • Sorkin006

    Someone really wants a job. MILF porn will pay well. And I will watch.

  • Dustin’sBig80sHair

    Danielle, you should be like that song in Frozen and Let It Go! They don’t want you and they never wanted you for their movie. You made 4 shitty Halloween movies and you should just leave well enough alone.

    • Grimphantom

      How much i’m betting you’re going to hate the new Halloween movie……

    • Justin McGill

      Actually her track record is almost as good as Jamie Lee’s even as much as I HATED the Zombie remakes.. I’d rather watch those piles than Resurrection.

  • Saturn

    A message to Danielle : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

    ***Edit*** Just noticed that Dustin’sBig80sHair beat me to the punch by 4 minutes.

  • DaddyKo

    I prefer the Danielle Harris movies. She may not have starred in the original but she’s been in just as many Halloween films as Jaime Lee Curtis. I’m not saying she needs to be in this at all, I’d prefer a reboot that wasn’t connected. I’m viewing this as her saying she disappointed that the character Jaime Lloyd won’t even get a reboot take of the character but just a totally new invented daughter not necessarily that she won’t be playing the part. Although I’m sure she’s love too.

    • Graham

      I agree. I don’t think this is her begging to be in the movie, and she doesn’t sound desperate. She just sounds disappointed. Can’t blame her for that, she does have a long history with the franchise and is often overlooked. It’d be nice to see her at least get a cameo.

    • RJ MacReady

      I agree, I’d take H4 any day over any other Halloween movie(other than the original and H2, of course). I still enjoy H5 as well.

  • Grimphantom

    It’s funny how many are making fun of her on trying to return the franchise because they didn’t call her but when it comes to Kane Hodder(Jason) you guys go nuts that you want him to appear on another Friday the 13th movie or anything that relates to it.

  • Khy

    For crying out loud just put her in the damn movie already so she can shut up. Danielle’s determined to get in this movie one way or another.

    Make Jamie a friend of Karen’s in this timeline. Or make her a stripper at the Rabbit in red or a store clerk or go full Twin Peaks and have her be a demented version of Laurie from the black lodge.

    Just get her to shut up! Between her and Danny McBride my excitement for this movie is plummeting.

    • REC03

      Don’t let her comments ruin it for you as she has nothing to do with this movie. I love Danielle but if i were making this movie i wouldn’t put her in it either. She was brought back in the RZ movies and that should be enough.

  • Sam Beckett

    I would be happy with every filmmaker always ignoring what “the fans” would want to see. Integrity is key and a movie should be good/bad on its own merits.

  • Micah Unice

    Did she really just say she wants Jamie to become the Shape?

    • Necro

      HaHa! Yep!

    • DaddyKo

      That was the plan for Halloween 5, if you remember the ending of part 4. Also Tommy Jarvis was so supposed to become the killer in Friday part 6.

    • Justin McGill

      Yes.. And with the ending of 4i always kind of did too

  • Necro

    I understand what she’s trying to say, but this movie has enough issues already with the biggest one being McBride having diarrhea of the mouth!

  • I Believe You

    Her and PJ Soles probably talk about this all day long during their shifts at Waffle House

    “PJ WANNA TAG TEAM BLUMHOUSE TOGETHER”

    “TOTALLY HAHA JUST LIKE LYNDA GET IT”

    • Khy

      LMAAAAOOOO.

      It’s like the premise of a Tarantino movie. Two washed up neverbeens come up in a heist to return to b-movie glory by starring in the 11th entry in a slasher series.

      Set it in the 70s, make it hard R

      • Oh god!!! This movie would be awesome!!!!

      • Graham

        I’d watch the hell out of that.

    • ScaryLarryV

      ahhhahaha!!!

  • Hank_Scorpio

    “Franchise icon”

    Really?

  • Jada Maes

    Boy, a lot of people are assholes for no good reason.

  • Nia Snacks

    My 4 favorite Halloween movies did not feature her character. 1, 2, 3 and H2O. So I’m perfectly okay with this

    • Kristoffer Groves

      Booooooo 😛

  • Galaxy_Scribe

    So…she does interviews about her new film, gets asked about Halloween and SHE’S the one who can’t let it go.

    Uh-huh

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    Always so bizarre how people misinterpret an actor’s response to a question as them being stuck on something and needing to move on. People think Kane Hodder still stews over not being in Freddy vs Jason because there are articles still being written from time to time or videos being shown of him talking about it, though the transcript/video almost always shows someone asking him. Of course they’re gonna talk about it when asked. If they refused to answer the question, people would then say “Boy, someone sure sounds bitter… time to move on”, etc. That part of fan-perception is a no-win for them.

    On an amusing note; though I’m all for Danielle being in this movie and have been a fan for many years, I can’t help but find it hilarious that John Carpenter had no idea who she was when they met. I think that pretty well answers any possible question of why she isn’t in the new film.

    • Grimphantom

      I personally saw that people talk about it than Hodder, it’s a shitty move from New Line on what they did but still Hodder kept his cool.

  • Bloodspatta

    FFS she needs to just shut the hell up. She’s been in 4 Halloween movies and 3 of them are utter shite. No one gives a fuck about her character.

    • Grimphantom

      That’s what they say about you when you come home, eh?

      But let us DO care like Kane Hodder playing Jason again, Kevin Bacon as Valentine from Tremors, Schwarzenegger as the Terminator again!…….that’s being hypocrite….

    • Kristoffer Groves

      Hey! You don’t talk that way about my future ex-wife!

  • The Night King

    That would be funny if Buh-Buh-BBBBilly from part 5 expressed dismay at not being included in the upcoming film as well.

    • tyler

      Hahaha nice!

  • Mac888 spectral

    I like Danielle, but let it go already. What sense would it make to bring back a dead character from part of the series that hasn’t been canon in nearly 20 years? Yeah I know Laurie was killed too, but there is no comparison in popularity or icon status.

  • sixfeetdownsouth

    She’s getting a little stalker/clingy about the Halloween franchise. She’s like Corey Feldman is about Friday the 13th.

  • Maxime C

    Relax Danielle, if the movie works, OF COURSE they’ll do another one, you still have a chance.

  • I Am Colossus

    Her death scene (the entire scene from beginning to end) in H2 creeped me out and made me feel bad….. She’s awesome in that

  • Nick Greeley

    Holy shit some of you are completely taking what she said out of context. She isn’t even whining and said that she supports the film and is still looking forward to seeing it.

    Apparently “I’m bummed, but that’s that” translates to “HAHA SHE WANTS A CHEQUE HOW ENTITLED”
    Lol fuck off.

  • Halloween_Vic

    HOnestly if your gonna give Laurie a daughter why not Jamie and why not Danielle Harris? I honestly don’t want Judy Greer near this movie and Danielle Harris would be perfect for it and hello finally having the proper on screen relationship between Laurie and Jamie would be awesome and so nostalgic for fans of the original films.

  • Jada Maes

    This is it. This is the message board that convinced me to stay away from this site for good. We could be here talking about horror and fun things. Instead, an actress can’t say anything without fanboys exploding with the impotent fury of middle-aged men who have accomplished nothing.

    Peace out.

    • Alexis Collins

      Agreed

  • Alexis Collins

    Halloween 1, 2 and 4 were the best. They should totally continue from that point. The Rob Z remakes were some of the worst piece of garbage I’ve ever seen. Totally destroyed the franchise.

  • Wez Za

    Poor Josh Hartnett males don’t have any luck in slasher film it’s the same shit over and over again

  • Josh Nitsche

    She should have been it, I agree. That would have been cool, but I understand they are trying to set this one apart from the rest and having Danielle would have created a continuity between films that they are trying not to acknowledge. I find Danielle much more appealing than the comedian they cast for Laurie’s daughter.

  • Shaun Shaffer

    She’s being a primadonna bitch. I could understand about the H6 situation but she’s being a baby. I’ve lost a lot of respect for her. I’ve even lost some respect for some of the Chucky crew because Don,Fiona,Alex and Christine are against MY Prez and got all butthurt when Cult leaked a week before release. You think you know people when you find out they’re fucking-A-holes Especially all of you.

    • Mac888 spectral

      Newsflash: Most of America hates your prez, including many who voted for him. Learn to separate politics from your other interests or you’ll always be the prickly douche you appear to be.

      • Shaun Shaffer

        You goddamn jew. I’ll ALWAYS support Trump. I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL!

  • Darnell

    I don’t really understand her attachment to the original franchise. I think if she wasn’t in the remakes it would make sense I guess to bring her back.

    However it’s been almost 30 years since she was apart of the original franchise. I think part 5 released in 1989?

    I honestly could see a case made for Josh Harnet’s character being brought back over Jamie.

    Either way this entire alternative timeline for the sole purpose of bringing Jamie Lee Curtis back to boost ticket sales sounds like a terrible idea. Nothing about this movie sounds appealing.

    Jamie Lee Curtis is almost 60 and Michael is older than she is in the series. We going to have a near 70 year old Michael?

    I think she should be happy she isn’t apart of this potential dumpster fire. Those thinking Carpenter being involved means success will be disappointed. Dude has been about only getting a check for awhile.

  • I mean it’s not a retcon in the true sense of the word. It’s just another continuity. Halloween III not being considered canonical to the rest is a retcon. This is more like what the did with Halloween H20, which discounted everything after Halloween II. It simply created a new timeline. There’s one continuity which is Halloween through Halloween 6, and there’s another which is Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween 7-9. Then there’s the Rob Zombie version which are a completely separate version. This new one will simply be a third continuity in the original series, which consists of the Original and itself.

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