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‘Halloween Returns’ Director Reveals the Meaning Behind the Title!

Back in June Bloody Disgusting exclusively broke the news that Marcus Dunstan will be directing the “recalibration” of the Halloween franchise that he penned with regular collaborator Patrick Melton (various Saw sequels, as well as Pacific Rim, Feast, The Collector and The Collection).

This holiday afternoon we were pointed to a two-part YouTube video that offers 20 minutes of a 2-hour long interview with Dunstan, who reveals not only the meaning behind Halloween Returns, but also teases that The Box‘s Gillian Jacobs could be joining the cast.

While much of the interview was “lost” because of “technical difficulties”, the interviewees reveal plans for a violent opening, and confirm it will follow the events of the first three Halloween films (it’ll be interesting to see how this is even possible).

Inspired by the real-life murder of one of Dunstan’s family members, the most intriguing portion of the interview recounts the meaning behind the title Halloween Returns.

Halloween, if you have a semicolon, Returns, I think I put it in an email as a subtitle, but I think it was registered as Halloween Returns, which is fine. I like that, and it works, it does function as what it means to say. But if you commit a violent act, sometimes you get returns. What are the repercussions of being a violent entity? In that case, Halloween Returns could mean a number of things.”

And while we’re all waiting patiently for a shooting date, Dunstan does confirm that they’ve begun some tests: “The coolest thing we’ve done so far is a couple motion tests of potential Michaels.”

The duos vision for the film is built on the original film by John Carpenter and the build of suspense.

“Michael Myers is subtlety and suspense,” he explained. “Suspense isn’t expensive. A karate fight in a burning room is expensive.

He continued: “We went back to the original [Halloween] screenplay too and just read it, John Carpenter’s draft, and timed it with watching the movie, and line for line it keeps the same clock as watching the movie, so if you’re reading the pages, it’s almost like a shot list.

“I want to see a film shot on film,” he added later. “I want it to be one that stands on its own.”

Thanks to Halloween Daily News for transcribing, who also pulled out the info that, when asked about how the Michael Myers mask will look, Dunstan says it has to resemble the classic profile from the John Carpenter’s 1978 original Halloween. Of the mask’s reveal, likely in an early teaser trailer, the director sites the recent Star Wars: The Force Awakens teaser featuring a familiar yet aged Harrison Ford at the end, stating, “Our goal is to have that Han and Chewie moment.” Later, when asked if he wants to make more sequels after Halloween Returns, Dunstan, says, “I want to make The Dark Knight.”

Here are early plot details for Halloween Returns:

Halloween Returns will be a standalone film set to reintroduce audiences to Michael Myers years after his initial rampage. It will pit a new group of Haddonfield youngsters against Myers.

The now 18-year-old child of one of Myers’ victims plays a central role along with the child of a cop whose long been obsessed with Myers’ case, even putting it before his own daughter.

Myers is now on death row and the two kids with their own personal vendettas against the killer sneak in to watch his execution. But when things go awry and Myers escapes, the pair, along with their friends, find themselves in the firing line.

Updated Sep. 8 @8:36PM



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COMMENTS

239 Comments
  • curtis

    Pumped!! Yes!

  • Dustin

    The fact that they want to go for that Han and Chewie moment in an age where there are practically no safe spoilers excites me even more for this film.

  • Cody

    So this is going to lead up to H4?

  • J Jett

    “Halloween, if you have a semicolon, Returns, I think I put it in an email as a subtitle, but I think it was registered as Halloween Returns,
    which is fine. I like that, and it works, it does function as what it
    means to say. But if you commit a violent act, sometimes you get
    returns. What are the repercussions of being a violent entity? In that
    case, Halloween Returns could mean a number of things.””

    can someone explain what the hell he is saying? lol. also how can it follow the events of the first three Halloween films when H3 has nothing to do with Myers? lastly, (i’m not a STAR WARS fan at all) what is a “Han & Chewie moment” (i know who the characters are, i just don’t know what he means regarding this new HALLOWEEN movie).

    • Roberto Ciamora

      The “Returns” thing I think is referencing how some people refer to “Karma” as “Returns”. Like a “Return on your investment”, if your violent it will “return” to haunt you, etc etc etc

      At least that’s how I read it

      The Stars Wars shit I can’t help you with, I’m in the same boat as you, I don’t watch them. Even as kid I didn’t like them. I know Harrison Ford is Han and Chewie is that thing covered in fur but I don’t know how that relates to this

      • J Jett

        oh! thanx for the info guys! 🙂

    • Panda

      Basically what he means by the Star Wars thing is that in the new Star Wars movie teaser that was first release, it was exciting to see Han Solo and Chewie again.
      This could mean that in the teaser for Halloween Returns that it could be exciting to see Michael and Laurie again (specifically played by Jamie Lee Curtis of course), or even Michael and Dr. Loomis. Basically something to get fans excited about.

      • Jonathan Larsson

        Maybe Danielle Harris as an adult version of her character too?

    • Justin McGill

      I think he just means the first three as in that the ones Carpenter produced. Now if they’ll actually acknowledge the events in #3 is another story.

    • TheWorst

      Makes me wonder if he’s even watched the films in this series… they already did that with Jamie Lee in H20 and then they did it again with Danielle Harris in the remakes.

      Does he think this will be a new thing?

      • Jonathan Larsson

        I think movie makers at this point is starting to realize that Michael Myers by his own machinery is a popular enough cult-icon to not be exclusively bound by petty continuity. The franchise is un-even as it is; does he really need to follow the example of former directors who introduced the cult of the thorn, an alternate time-line or horse-hallucinations?

        • TheWorst

          Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

          • Jonathan Larsson

            Aye, but you know what they also say? Third time’s the charm.

          • TheWorst

            You’re ignoring the fact that they’re shitty filmmakers. So, there’s that.

          • Jonathan Larsson

            Even shitty moviemakers have their silver-lining. Heck, some needs to make a lot of shit before they even get close to something golden. Look at Alfred Hitchcock’s first movies; they’re boring as fuck.

          • TheWorst

            So, doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Makes shitty films. But, you’re still optimistic regardless. Got it.

  • NightRunner

    So it will follow the first 3 does that mean they will acknowledge Season of the Witch? God, I hope so! I love that film so much! Tom Atkins rocks!!!

    • TheWorst

      That line irked me the most… leading me to believe he was confusing the order of the films because that makes no sense.

      How can we trust someone who can’t remember what the third film in this series was? It’s possibly the most infamous horror sequel of all time.

      • Jonathan Larsson

        I’d say you’re nitpicking. Most people don’t even consider the 3rd Halloween movie an actual Halloween-movie.

        • concerned citizen

          Most people? Apart from the fact that it’s called Halloween 3? Dude, it’s a Halloween movie. In fact, it’s the third one.

          • Jonathan Larsson

            It still wouldn’t make much sense to introduce it. It literally has nothing to do with what the franchise would be known for except taking place during the same holiday. A playful easter-egg would be fun, but otherwise I think this guy is referring to Halloween 4. If people are gonna complain about something so simple then they’re kind of small-minded.

        • TheWorst

          Thats… why… I… made… the… comment, Jon.

    • ThunderDragoon

      No. Season of the Witch took place in a separate universe than Halloween and Halloween II.

  • EvilHead1981

    Sounds cool that Dunstan’s aiming for a more suspense driven Halloween movie.

  • I firmly believe Patrick Lussier should’ve directed Halloween Returns (as expected). Too many re-imaginings/re-boots/remakes try to dramatize the horror events to the point where any fun to be had is absent. Take the “Evil Dead” and “A Nightmare on Elm Street” remakes for example. Gone was the campy humor from Bruce Campbell’s character or even the the grainy/low-budget feel of the original from “Evil Dead” or the over-the-top blood and practical gore effects that really made the film entertaining from “A Nightmare on Elm Street”. Lussier’s “My Bloody Valentine 3D” definitely had its problems but because the humor was so tongue-in-cheek and the gore was comical, I had fun watching it. “Halloween” needs another “Season of the Witch” or “H20” to show that you can inject some humor or cheese into a film to really give it that kick. Look at how insipid “Halloween 2” and “Halloween 5” were- the tone was way too serious.

    • Roberto Ciamora

      Ironically I liked the Evil Dead remake far more than The Bloody Valentine one, and H2O is probably my least favorite film in the Halloween series……..Well, that one and the one with Busta Rhymes are neck and neck lol

      Guess it goes to different tastes. The “Campy Humor” thing or the “Wink at the audience” thing are the biggest turn offs to me in horror. Every once in a while it can be done well, such as “Evil Dead 2” or “Scream” but by and large I despise those types of movies.

      • Blade

        I absolutely loved Evil Dead 2013 lol and I agree, I can deal with the camp/cheese or little winks to us fans, but only to an extent. If its overdone I usually find myself getting turned off, sort of like a played out joke lol

    • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

      The script was ridiculous. Bodies were getting tossed 20ft away with Michael’s swing of an axe.

    • HALLOWEEN just needs another dose of both HALLOWEEN 4 and John Carpenter’s and Rick Rosenthal’s HALLOWEEN 2,since all of the other sequels were God awful.

  • Blade

    So it follows the first 3 movies…what? The third one was its own thing, hell in that movie the original Halloween is just a movie like in the real world lol maybe he just said the wrong thing or something. Anyway I am pumped for the film, I just really really hope they are putting in a lot of effort and dedication into this movie.

    • Grimphantom

      Either he only meant 2 or it will follow what Halloween 4 ended.

      • CGP

        It does neither.

      • Blade

        O lawd lol if it took place a good time after 4 (but before 5/6) I would be absolutely ecstatic if Jamie Lloyd was the protagonist again and Danielle Harris returned for the character… words could not describe lol

  • REC03

    um…i don’t believe Gillian Jacobs was in The Last House On the Left.

    • TheWorst

      She wasn’t.

      • REC03

        top notch reporting on here as always. it only took me two seconds to check IMDB…lol.

  • Tosufai

    “Michael Myers is subtlety and suspense,” he explained. “Suspense isn’t
    expensive. A karate fight in a burning room is expensive.”

    Exactly. It’s very reassuring to hear this. But, and it’s a big one, suspense is much harder to do than obvious kills and slaughter — requires much more skill and finesse. I hope they can pull it off, and that the studio lets them keep it subtle.

    And can we please not have Michael Myers built like the bloody Hulk in this one? That’s fine for Jason but not Michael.

    • REC03

      i am loving the Halloween: Resurrection shade in this interview. lmao.

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  • aNYagenda

    Hey look!
    A sequel.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    Am I only one who wants to stab someone in the throat whenever I hear/read the word “recalibration” or “reimagining” or any other cheap ass cop-out these people use to avoid simply calling a project what it is; a remake?

    PS: First three movies? So the new cast of 20-somethings-trying-to-be-teens are gonna have to battle Michael AND an evil mask-maker? Wow, this oughta be good……

    • Since both “remake “and “reboot” are sins to use anymore,I guess that “recalibration” makes it sound more elaborate.

  • CGP

    It is an AWFUL script. And when I say awful, I mean awful. I would be VERY surprised if Gillian Jacobs takes this film. This movie is going to really piss off fans of the original movie big time. It does not tie in or respect the original film the way they are saying AT ALL.

    • wehoaks

      And how did you get the script? Gillian Jacobs is 32 so I can’t imagine she’d be playing. Teen.

      • CGP

        I used to post as “Caitlyn.” As usual, I can’t say where I got the script, but my scoops are legit. There’s a role for someone Gillian’s age. It’s not someone in the main “teen” group of the film.

        • Yeah,I’m getting that strong feeling that the poster art for new HALLOWEEN film is the only good thing that it’s got going for it,and godo luck if it actually makes it to filming(since the Patrick Lussier/Todd Farmer HALLOWEEN 3/3-D didn’t make it to filming[and had a truly horrible script{I secretly read it somewhere on-line,and was glad it never made it to filming}])

          • Khy

            H3D script was terrible. If that was made it’d probably be duking it out with Resurrection as the worse in the series- hell, it might would win because although Resurrection was bad, there’s still a few things I kinda liked(and Busta Rhymes was not one of them lmao). But H3D was just a mess. Not surprised considering it had to be written, prepped, scouted, casted, and shot in only two months time. Thank God it was cancelled.

          • CGP

            This one’s on par with H3D. I think that if I could compare this script to anything, it would be MBV3D. It doesn’t REALLY get what makes the original good. And the “execution scene” and aftermath are a joke. It only makes sense if Michael is like a supernatural entity.

        • wehoaks

          Ahhh I remember you! I like you! And believe you (although you did say the scream TV series was great and had an awesome pilot script and that was most definitely not the case!). So your general feelings then? What draft did you read?

          • CGP

            Well actually with Scream, they tweaked the script a lot right before they went into production. And there was an earlier draft by two different writers that was way better than the watered down CW BS we got. Way different concept though.

            As for Halloween, I read the script that is going to shoot. I think they’re aiming for an October start. For those who think I’m lying, the lead character is named Sofia and Sam Loomis no longer exists. Her father is the “new” Loomis. And again, it’s all very bad although I like it better than the Zombie nonsense.

            You’ll see when they start casting. I can’t say much more now but as more info comes, I can comment in greater detail. Wehoaks, if you want to message me I’ll give you more scoop.

          • wehoaks

            That seems right about Scream. Jill whatshername seemed to come in an shit it up. What was the original scripts concept?

            I’ll message you in regards to Halloween. But answer this for everyone: Sam Loomis no longer exists as in his character is dead or they act as if he never actually existed?

          • CGP

            Never existed. They have reframed the mythology.

          • Khy

            Reframed how? Is this a different timeline?

          • Matt Thompson

            It’s a direct sequel to HALLOWEEN. None of the other sequels, including H2, happened.

          • CGP

            Hmm, then they changed it since April. The shooting script is not a direct sequel to any of the other movies. I promise.

          • Khy

            Haha, now I’m wanting to read BOTH of them.

          • wehoaks

            The april draft is not connected either. That user misread or misunderstood.

          • wehoaks

            It is not a direct sequel to HALLOWEEN either. It is a complete
            reframing of Carpenter’s. To me it reads as a sequel to a movie that we
            have never seen and that doesn’t exist.

          • TheDarkShape

            The draft I read essentially reworks the dates. HALLOWEEN happened (to the point the first news broadcast we hear is about Laurie Strode and Dr. Loomis), but not necessarily in 1978. On the night of the original film, Michael ends up killing Deputy Hunt’s wife. Dr. Rogers shows up and talks Michael down, and then we cut ten years later.

          • wehoaks

            It is not 1978. it is ten years prior so it is 2006.
            Halloween happened yes but not the Halloween we know. The doctor they mention in the broadcast is revealed only seconds later to be DR ROGERS. Loomis does not exist. I guess we can assume the girl they mention is Laurie but they never clarify and she is never mentioned again.

          • Khy

            My God, my mind is doing backflips.
            That’s’ really….interesting. So it’s pretty much a whole new universe. Wow.

          • wehoaks

            Basically, yes.

          • TheDarkShape

            That’s what I meant by it reworking the dates. HALLOWEEN happened, but it happened “ten years ago.” So if RETURNS comes out next year, then HALLOWEEN would’ve happened in 2006.

            Are you CGB? Just wanna know if I’m talking to someone who’s actually read the script.

            And again, obviously things change, but in the draft I read Dr. Loomis absolutely makes an appearance (in a very, very silly scene), meeting with Dr. Rogers.

          • wehoaks

            I am not CGB. I am reading the april 13 draft and to be honest have yet to finish it. 20 pages to go and right now it is feeling like a chore.

          • CGP

            Oops! I just went back and read some of it again. They do say that “nearly ten years ago” the Halloween killer “took the lives of a dozen people.” And there IS STILL the Loomis tag at the end, which still doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s pointless and lame. “Gary Oldman?” Sorry guys!

          • TheDarkShape

            Does it still have the opening scene where Dr. Rogers talks Michael down in Hunt’s house?

          • CGP

            Yes, it does. Sorry for the confusion.

          • CaptainBlake

            Don’t know how to message you on this thing, but if you could copy and paste the same info you’ve shared with wehoaks and send it along to threemotherslive@yahoo.com, I’d be much obliged. Morbid fascination and all.

          • wehoaks

            There is now way to PM you. How can I speak to you off of here?

          • Matt Thompson

            He existed, the script just goes out of its way not to mention him. Pretty sure he’s only mentioned, along with Laurie, in that quick news broadcast at the very beginning.

          • CGP

            Your script is older than mine, and might have been revised. There is NO mention of Laurie or Loomis. Dr. Rogers is the “new” Loomis. There is, in a way, a new Laurie too. But she is not the lead.

          • Matt Thompson

            Hmm. Interesting.

          • Khy

            Very interesting indeed! How did you enjoy your draft?

          • TDS-Matt

            I thought it nailed the Shape and the general tone/suspense, but that the characters were a little weak. Was hoping they’d improve that, but CGP’s read a later draft than I have.

          • Khy

            Very interesting! Thanks again!

          • wehoaks

            They also describe ROB ZOMBIE’S Loomis and not Carpenter’s.

          • scott

            Can you email me the script? I’m dying to read it.

          • wehoaks

            Then it quickly reveals that the doctor they were referencing in the news boradcast was Dr. Rogers. Loomis has been wiped from the series. As well as Laurie.

          • wehoaks

            I am reading it now. It is seriously fucking pissing me off.

          • wehoaks

            Can I get an email? I’m on a mobile device and can’t message you on here privately for some reason.

          • Matt Thompson

            Will verify that CGP isn’t lying. Sofia’s the lead. Dr. Rogers, her father, is the “new Loomis.”

          • scott

            Can you email me the script?

        • Khalil Wright

          You you lyin brah?

    • … I call bullshit

    • Brett

      Can you tell me more about it?

    • Khy

      I believe you’ve read it but I don’t think I’ll dismiss it as horrible just yet until I read the script- Mainly because to most people every thing in this series except the original is classified as “awful” haha. I’m not expecting the 11th installment in a 35 year old slasher franchise to be “good”- I just want at the bare minimal something that’s fun and entertaining.

      As long as it’s better than the Zombie films (which I actually didn’t mind too much) and that horrid H3d script- I’ll be happy.

      • CGP

        Well, I love the franchise, not just the original. For some context, the only Halloween movies I really don’t like at all are Zombie’s. I can even find it in my heart to enjoy Halloween V on some level, if I’m in the right mood.

        • Khy

          Ahhh! I gotcha! Thanks for replying!

    • Matt Thompson

      Just like to toss out there that I’ve read a draft of the script, dated April 2015, and dug it.

      • Khy

        Any hints to where we might can dig one up?

        • TDS-Matt

          As far as I know it’s not online. I work in the industry and got it through friends.

          • Khy

            Gotcha, thank you Matt, it’ll probably surface one of these days :p

      • wehoaks

        Reading the same draft and it is angering me. I am more in line with CGP with my assessment. The teen characters are so fucking awful.

  • Khy

    So I listened to the whole thing and came away with…not a damn new thing. Once again BD hyping up fucking “non news”.

  • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

    Advice to the interviewer: lower your voice and don’t interrupt the eloquent Marcus.

  • Geno1987

    I’d like to see someone with balls make a sequel to Halloween 3.

    • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

      moron

    • Khy

      Uh no.

  • Kirby4Ever

    Acknowledging the original films, referencing Star Wars and the goal for nostalgia, and throwing shade at Halloween: Resurrection….
    I just got even more excited about this!

  • Ripley

    This sounds fucking great. Couldn’t be more excited!

  • Christian

    It sounds like Marcus is ticking all the right boxes. I just hope the studio doesn’t meddle it’s way in too much.

    • Khy

      The Weinsteins will find a way- they probably already are.

      • wehoaks

        I am sure Bob Weinstein is throwing his sweaty weight around trying to ruin this project.

        • CGP

          One day I would love for everyone to read Kevin Williamson’s original Scream 4 script.

          Edit: I will never be the one to leak it so do not ask.

          • wehoaks

            GODDAMN i have been trying to get my hands on that for four years! You jerk! (thats me not admitting I am jealous). My friend worked on the film and told me details of the chaos that is not public but even she didn’t get that draft.

          • CGP

            I’m sorry to inform you that I don’t think it will ever leak. But there were basically three incarnations of Scream 4, and the worst one is the one that came out. The other gold mine is Kevin Williamson’s Scream 3 treatment. If that movie had been made instead of the POS we got, Scream would have had four more sequels I swear. As reported publicly, the killer motive was recycled (in a way) into the following. But Bob Weinstein has no patience and he meddles.

          • wehoaks

            What were the other two incarnations? So wait, Williamson wrote a full Scream 3 or do you mean his treatment?

          • CGP

            I edited. Again, I don’t think I can ever reveal that stuff unless I want to reveal myself, which is not wise. Kevin never wrote a Scream 3 script but he DID write an opening scene and a full treatment. And they pissed all over Ehren Kruger’s lame brained script. Wes Craven’s on set direction and decision making salvaged Scream 3, but I still hate it. And FYI: he really hated it too.

          • wehoaks

            No I don’t want you to subject yourself to anything that could get you in trouble at all. I knew he wrote a treatment but never could track it down. My reps can’t even get my it or anything involving Scream 4. I am officially jealous of you. I wish I could talk to you privately somehow.

  • Wes Draven

    I haven’t read the comments yet, but I always figure it’s cynicism, that’s everyone’s approach to everything ever, and maybe with this, there’s reason, we have no reason to expect anything out of this. It’d be completely left-field for the 10th Halloween film to be the one to bring it all back ten-fold. And if he means make “The Dark Knight,” as in, a film that’s BETTER than the originals, skepticism will inevitably ensue.

    With that said, … how can you hate on that? Someone who actually cares enough to try? That’s ambition we didn’t see with so many of the other films.

  • Golic

    this sounds promising; but that reasoning for the title was fucking retarded.

    • Jonathan Larsson

      I figured he made the title as a reference to Batman Returns, but I guess he intends to show violence with consequences, which usually isn’t brought up in slasher films. Or at least I think that’s what he means.

      • concerned citizen

        It isn’t usually brought up, but it featured fairly heavily in Rob Zombie’s H2

        • Jonathan Larsson

          Too bad it was bad, bad movie… with the exception of Danielle Harris.

  • I do like Rob Zombies remakes even if people said they suck I thought they were good.

    • Jonathan Larsson

      They were good in a sense, but Zombie’s moviemaking style clashed the style of the beloved franchise. He did some suspenseful scenes which were in line with a Halloween-flick, but the characters, the general plot and the kills just weren’t.

      • James

        I still think zombie would have been more at home doing Friday the 13th instead. The sex and violence, the mommy issues…all seem at home with Friday more than a Halloween film.

        • Jonathan Larsson

          Nah, his movie-style is too angry and sadistic, not to mention he likes to drag things out. Friday the 13th is usually very straight to the point.

    • Maxime C

      Loved them !!
      The first one is awesome, and yes, the 2nd part is…weird and kinda over the top with the horse thing, but this hospital opening is purely magnificent. I mean, Myers really goes at it !

    • concerned citizen

      They work best for me if watched back to back as one full story. That way it slides strangely from “grounded” to sickly and supernatural.

    • Khy

      Meh at least they were different. Love em or hate em but we must admit- Zombie did his thing. I only agree with remaking something if you’re going to truly put your own spin on it which he did.

      I appreciate that over the Nightmare reboot which felt like nothing but a soulless generic deformed clone of the original.

  • macguffin54

    Not a fan of the plot synopsis but I do like everything this article says he said (I have not watched the clip). Cross your fingers.

  • ThunderDragoon

    So freakin’ excited for this. 😀

    • Khy

      If only they hurry up and start filming. Been waaaay too long since we had a Halloween on the big screen

      • Halloween_Vic

        god im dyinggg!!!! Like pick this shit up start filming, make it amazing beyond the point of amaze-balls, bring that darkness in michael’s eyes and suspense and bammmmm off to a good start!!! I neeeeeed this nowwwwwww!!!!

        • Khy

          My body is ready, has been ready for six long years.
          Leatherface has already been shot, it finished shooting months ago, so I’m wondering when they’re thinking about releasing it- they released that poster a few days back so maybe an announcement is coming soon in a potential date.

          I have no fucking idea what’s going on with Friday. 110% it will not be making that May 13th release date- yet another bullshit date that failed to pan out. I’m done waiting for that shit.

          • Halloween_Vic

            I know like next year is gonna be the return of the kings of slashers themselves. So I’m guessing we will be getting Leatherface first which obviously is a nice warm up and hopefully nothing like the abomination of the 2013 sequel. And fuckkk thats right there hasn’t been any update on Friday the 13th which sucks man because we were suppose to get it November of this year originally and now they havent even started shooting so idk how that’s gonna play off. I feel like there waiting for a official release for ” Halloween Returns ” so F13th can be last and they can compare how they both performed. But they need to get moving I mean they clearly fucked up the plan on releasing the 13th Friday film on a friday the 13th for real if they don’t start production literally by tomorrow.

          • CGP

            Oh, buddy. If you think Leatherface is going to be better than the 2013 film, you better BUCKLE YOUR SEATBELT. And I need to stop helping this horrible website get more hits.

            News to you all: their scoops are like 40% wrong.

          • wehoaks

            Hahahah seriously how do you obtain all of these scripts?

          • CGP

            Because it’s my job.

          • Khy

            Best job ever.

          • CGP

            I really need to delete some of these posts. I like you guys, but I also like my job.

          • wehoaks

            That’s why I deleted mine.

          • Khy

            Understood CGP! Thank you sooo much for you insight on everything. 🙂 feel free to message me if you ever want to chat some more to a desperate hungry fan haha.

            Thanks again!

          • CGP

            You can have one more question about any of the aforementioned projects (except Scream 3/4), then I’m deleting everything so don’t get me in trouble.

            I used to be a big fan before I started working in the film industry, so I get it!

          • Khy

            Ok thank you!

            My last question is about Friday 2. Was there really a kill where Jason chops a teen to peices while a light from their camera goes off?

          • CGP

            I can go back and look, but I really don’t remember that.

          • Khy

            Ok thank you CGP. Do you think once the new movie gets in production you’ll be able to share the old script? I’ve been wanting to read it since 2010.

          • CGP

            I will never leak or share scripts because I could literally get fired and sued, but I will tell you details of the plot, etc.

          • Khy

            I respect that GCP 🙂 Do you think you can email me and at least tell me more about the plot of Friday 2? I’m so curious. I can give you my email

          • wehoaks

            Caitlyn, I would like to discuss the HR script with you in great detail. Any way to message privately?

          • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

            One more question from me that is very broad: Is Prometheus 2 pure sci-fi or is it sci-fi/horror?

          • Halloween_Vic

            I’m trying to have hope!!! Considering the director attached to it is far better then the one they hired for the 2013 sequel.

          • CGP

            Sorry, but at this point I think it’ll be January 2017 – they are never going to make next May. I was waiting patiently too. Everyone has really tried to get this together in time, and they just got a new script, which I’m reading next week. The last script was NO GOOD. I am SUPER glad they did not go into production with it.

          • wehoaks

            Who was the credited writer on the draft you have read?
            And on the new one?

          • CGP

            I will share all of the details of the “3D” script when they go into production on the new one and the last draft is officially a dead property. Right now, I can’t.

          • wehoaks

            Sounds good. That Halloween Returns script. I think you’re kind saying it is awful.

          • CGP

            Good. Glad we are on the same page. I hate when this site (and others) spin stuff. This script is crap. It’s really not good. It doesn’t even reinvent the mythology well, and then it descends into terrible slasher cliche. And the characters (especially the teens) are just so lame. I hadn’t read it in two months so I just went back and went through it again. It made my brain sleep.

            If you guys want to get excited for a movie, get excited for Prometheus 2.

          • wehoaks

            I was angry reading it. It is so so so so bad. The teen dialogue is awful and some of it is so downright insulting to teens if that’s what Marcus & Patrick think they are like. The characters are all stripped of anything that could make them pass for human. Everyone is so damn somber. It actually doesn’t reinvent it at all. It takes the old mythology and neuters it. The “homages” to the first three films were just… there. And the Loomis they describe – the clothes etc is ZOMBIE’s. Not even Carpenter’s.

          • CGP

            No punch. Sofia and her friends are not like Laurie. Ugh, the scene with the beer made me want to die. That is NOT character development. The script tries to be too expansive so it fails everywhere.

          • wehoaks

            The scene with the beer– I YELLED at the script. SO BAD. The teen dialogue and the overuse of the word slut was when I said “uh-oh”.

          • CGP

            There’s no slut anywhere in mine. So maybe your draft is the older one, at least.

          • wehoaks

            Mine was dated April. At least they took that shiz out. The line that made me howl and not in a good laughing way “That was pretty crazy last night, wasn’t it?” “Yeah, it was. People died.”

            just BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA so bad.

          • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

            As someone who loves Prometheus as much as Alien and Aliens, I’ve gotta ask: Is the Prometheus really that amazing? I work in the industry as well and have heard it’s like a fusion of Blade Runner and The Matrix.

          • CGP

            Hmmm, that’s not how I would describe it. I didn’t really like Prometheus that much. Everything should have been so great, but they squandered it.

            Prometheus 2 is wayyyyyyyyyy better.

          • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

            Did Green really make it more Alien-y, or is it less Alien-y?

          • Khy

            So they really were aiming for 3D for the new Friday? Wow.

          • CGP

            Oh yes. Big time. Everyone has cooled on that. They really didn’t know where to go after the remake. It was just blase. It could have been Friday the 13th Part VII: Jason Takes 2009. Nothing new. So that has been the big script struggle.

            I never understood why they banked on the F v J writers, and Marcus Nispel. It could have been so good.

          • Khy

            Can you give me a few deets on the last script? Who was it written by?

  • i’m. so. excited!

  • Jonathan Larsson

    He sounds like he’s taking the project seriously. The setting and plot also puts the franchise at a place it hasn’t really visited before, which could make it a nice and refreshing new addition to the franchise.
    However, I still have to see a really good movie from Dunstan to completely trust him. He does seem ambitious and experimental, not to mention a true movie enthusiasts, which seems like the kind of guy that should take this project on. But his earlier films are so and so…
    I’ve never been very keen on the Feast movies, and most of his Saw movies are okay I guess. The Collector films are interesting, but not very substantial on their own.

    I guess we’ll now soon enough. I just hope he doesn’t do any damn 3D. I fucking hate those awkward camera-shots!

    • Khy

      Haha I think the 3D horror fad died- for now at least.

      • wehoaks

        Let’s hope to fucking god it did!

      • Halloween_Vic

        Thank god that era of 3-D for horror is done. At least for slashers lol

  • Maxime C

    Gillian Jacobs???? YES PLEASE. But not as an 18yo girl, let’s be some kind of logic.

    Excited for this.

  • Michael Voorhees

    What does he mean by following first 3 Halloween movies is it 1,2,3 or 1,2,4?So excited for this,director really means bussines 🙂

    • Halloween_Vic

      LOve your fucking avi!!!!

  • concerned citizen

    It follows the first 3 movies? You mean the third movie which included the first movie playing on a television as a movie? And it’s also a stand alone movie? Is this going to be the ‘New Nightmare’ of the Halloween franchise?

    • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

      Buhhhhh

      • concerned citizen

        You know you’ve arrived when the site @sshole decides your worthy of his dickish attention

        • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

          your worthy

          • concerned citizen

            Now that was subtle

          • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

            buh

          • concerned citizen

            Weak

          • RidleyScottIsADirector@gmail.c

            yea

  • Irving

    Final Destination 6. New Line Cinema, LLC © 2016.

    • Taboo

      Love it haha

  • Taboo

    I’m always excited for new Halloween as long as it’s not a remake.

  • Mark

    Michael Myers is the bogeyman. You can’t put the bogeyman on death row.

    • Khy

      You also can’t keep the boogeyman in a 10 year long coma.

      You can’t also have the boogeyman going on a road trip to California.

      You also can’t turn the boogeyman’s house into an internet reality show

      Why start applying standards now?

    • Daniel Baldwin

      He was locked in an institution for 15 years. What’s the difference? You are acting like he just appeared out of the ether at the start of the “present day” portion at the beginning of the original film, which just isn’t the case at all.

      • He was kept in an institution for 15 years BEFORE he turned into the personification of fear on Earth. At that point, he became The Boogeyman. Putting The Boogeyman on Death Row is like imprisoning Santa for breaking and entering. It just ain’t gonna happen.

        • Daniel Baldwin

          Dr. Loomis disagrees. Michael was pure evil from the moment he killed Judith onward. Does it bother you that your Boogeyman had to drive around in a car constantly or break into a store for supplies. Michael is pure evil and even supernaturally-tinged, but he’s not a phantom or a wraith. He still has to walk or drive places. He still needs tools and clothes. He can still be locked up, especially if he ever goes catatonic again. You are twisting the character to fit your personal vision of him. That’s fine, but you cannot hold others to your personal standard of what is allowed and what isn’t, especially when existing elements within the existing films…including the original…doesn’t fit your personal rules.

          Will the film be bad? Odds are it very well could be. But let’s not pretend that the story details thus far don’t fit the series, when in fact they do.

  • boaaa82 .

    I’m actually excited about this director can’t wait for this movie only one thing though please don’t let me down

  • Grither 57

    So there’s remakes, reboots, retellings, reinterpretations, reimaginings….now recalibrations.

  • Krug09

    I read the article and some comments but i will not waste my time watching the videos. Anyhow, so according to this article. Halloween Returns Follows the events after the first 3 films? I assume he made a mistake and meant first 2 films? There is no way to follow after the first 3 films. Its either one or the other.

    Also his explanation of returns has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard of… at least in a while. So what is he trying to say, Michael is going to get his ass kicked through the whole movie? This movie is his receipt (returns) for the murders… That just sounds straight up stupid but i still do look forward to this 🙂 lol

    • Khy

      From what I’ve heard, The first three Halloween films are amongst Marcus Dunstan’s favorites and includes elements from all three- Michael escapes and begins to stalk a teenage girl(Original), it’s set in Russellville and several characters share the names of H2 characters, and there’s several references and nods to “Season Of The Witch” which is really cool. That’s one thing I did like about that terrible H3D script- the fact they at least paid homage to the original H3, glad to see that have survived.

      • Krug09

        I see. I never read the H3D script but i remember Farmer loving the script he wrote. I might have to look it up. Supposedly (as you probably know) he had a week to write it.

        • Khy

          I can send it to ya

  • Thanks for sharing guys!

    • Halloween_Vic

      Thank u guys for posting!!!!

  • Halloween_Vic

    Finally some updates, I’ve been nervous that this was gonna shelved once again!! Now what I find interesting is him saying its gonna be a continuation from the first 3 films?? How in the hell will they tie in n” Season Of The Witch ”? I mean in the film itself ” Halloween Michael Myers ” is referred as a movie soo how will that work? And honestly I don’t want any tie in with the 3rd film and no supernatural mask bullshit. Simply go based off the first one and bring back that suspense and vibe that Carpenter gave us with the first, which seems that’s what he is going for. I’m really fucking excited!!! Halloween is my favorite franchise soooooo I have a lot to say lol but this has me excited. Still a bit confused about the direction it’s going but as long as it works and make people fear Michael again!!!! I seriously don’t want to see his face and I want him lurking in the shadow’s, I want him dark, mysterious and just bring that presence he did in the first one!!!! Can they start filming already????? I’M SO FUCKING READDDYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Khy

      I think he mainly just means nods and homages to the first three, because everything else I’m hearing sounds like this will be a fresh new story set in its own universe.

      • wehoaks

        The “homages” read, to me at least, as HEY REMEMBER THAT THING WE LIKED, as opposed put to good use.

        • Khy

          Haha damn, I figured. Do we see a Silver Shamrock commercial on TV? Bet we do.

          • wehoaks

            the jingle is heard.

          • Khy

            *screams* Sorry, little excited. lol
            So what are your thoughts overall? I trust your opinion probably the most.

          • wehoaks

            The Shape aspect is great (when they use him as the shape. 90% of the time they use him as Michael and we see him waaaaaay too much). Some interesting shots. But all in all it is pretty terrible. The teen characters are the FUCKING WORST. The females are props. Dialogue is atrocious from almost everybody. The teen dialogue is so so so so so so so so bad. Like so bad. I mean REALLY REALLY BAD. The logic is all over the damn place. “fire is expensive” is all could hear and laugh about during the EXPLOSION scene. I don’t want to give anything away. Just go in with ZERO HOPES.

          • Khy

            LMAO. OMG.
            Is it as bad as H3D? *dies*

          • wehoaks

            It is better than that garbage at least haha

          • Khy

            *breathes a little better*

            Oh well, this is what I love the most about these films. The hype, the discussions, the early script reviews ect. That’s the fun part!

            Haha thanks for getting back to me man!

          • wehoaks

            I hate this script.

          • Khy

            Oh wow!
            At this point are there even any cool kills to look forward too? That part has to be alright at least. *gets nervous*

            We could at least get some decent kills if everything else is terrible

          • wehoaks

            Not really. This isn’t Carpenter’s Shape either. Everything in that interview that he said is not happening on these pages. The dialogue is SOOOOOOOOOO BAD. I actually HATE this script with a passion.

          • Khy

            Omg. Wtf? There’s two drafts right? Are you reading the earlier one from April? Maybe the revised one is better.

            I’m trying to cling to hope. 🙁

          • wehoaks

            Yes April. It is just soooooooo bad.

          • Khy

            Gah!! Sad part is it doesn’t even seem so bad in a fun way.
            Damn. Well maybe the latest draft is better but I doubt it, according to what was said it seems just as bad.

          • wehoaks

            And it is not a complete story as Marcus says. there is a goddamn post credits scene setting up a damn UNIVERSE.

      • Halloween_Vic

        That’s what I’m feeling based on how they are gonna pull this off….. I’m just beyond ready honestly and I want them to just make Michael truly terrifying again and no back story. But I’m readyyyyy and he said there trying to make the mask look just as much as the original!!! That already has me beyond excited!!!!

  • Matt Gleason

    I like this guy. He showed thoughtfulness several times in this interview… even going so far as to be concerned about the title of the film. Also his comments RE: getting ripped off struck a chord with me. I’m hoping we’re going to end up with a great film to watch. My optimism is high for some reason.

    • Drew Douglas

      Him talking about going back to the suspense of the first movie is great news.

  • kenneth Tanner

    I’m really dieing to know about Michael Myers on death row. So does that mean Michael Myers is going to get the death penalty? Lol I’m dieing to see how this movie will turn out.

  • NYC Guy

    It should be noted that the true source of this information is an interview is Darnell Weeks and not these sites. he should be mentioned for all the hard work and time it took him to arranage this interview.

  • itbegins2005

    Whoa, whoa, whoa… when did all this new info come out?

    So Halloween Returns is actually going to be a continuation of the ORIGINAL Halloween franchise, rather than a continuation of the remakes? Which three Halloween films will this be following up on– the ACTUAL first three? Is Silver Shamrock a part of this? Or do they mean 1, 2, and 4? Maybe 1, 2, and H20? Or do they just mean 1 and 2– no Silver Shamrock, no Jaime, and no Keri Tate?

    Michael got CAUGHT? When?! Is this after he exploded at the end of 2? Or at the beginning of this one? (Probably that, actually.) And now he’s after a bunch of new kids? Why? Are they just ignoring the family aspect of the character to refocus on teen-slashing mayhem?

    This interview is just all over the place. Not a lot to be gleaned from it, and I’m REALLY hoping that’s an intentional thing by the director, because he kind of sounds like a dullard here.

    Still, I am excited for this movie! More Halloween can only be a good thing! (I hope…)

    • A-TOWN CALI DUDE

      Actually, brah, what I got from the interview was that Marcus Dunstan wants to bring back originality with a fresh new start, using the first three Halloweens (Halloween 4 as “the third one”, i’m sure of ) as the backdrop for this new entry. So, no Rob Zombie continuation- thank goodness-we will be getting old-school ,Michael Myers back, something we haven’t seen in a LONG time. As for the Laurie continuity, who knows? It is too early to tell.

      • itbegins2005

        I would absolutely be down with that, as long as this guy brings some skill and style to the franchise again. Don’t forget, classic Halloween can get pretty bad, too– just look at Halloween Resurrection, The Revenge of Michael Myers, or (God help us) The Curse of Michael Myers.

        • A-TOWN CALI DUDE

          I don’t think we have anything to fear from Marcus Dunstan. I think this installment of Halloween is in good hands. Marcus is really passionate about this and is big on suspense and rstoring originality to the Michael Myers universe.

      • wehoaks

        It’s not connected to any film in the series. And the script – IT SUUUUUUCKS.

  • Darnell

    If they are using the first two films as the backdrop for the movie then it seems ridiculous to have Michael Myers on death row.

    This is a man that was stabbed in the chest, had a needle jammed in his jugular. He was shot six times in the chest, while falling about 30 feet directly onto his back, and got up and walked away and this was just in the first movie!

    In the second film he is shot a few more times, and blown up…he walked a good 20 feet before collapsing while on fire!

    How in the hell is lethal injection suppose to pose any threat to him?

    Michael Myers in jail just doesn’t work anymore for what the character has become over the years. Halloween is by far the worst handled franchise of the slasher films. The continuity is all over the place, and it’s been a jumbled mess since the first two films.

    F13 has a better film continuity than Halloween and so does NOES.

    • wehoaks

      Not a sequel. A standalone film.

  • Kevin Lovell

    As a huge fan of Dunstan & Melton’s work I must ask, where does this ‘Pacific Rim’ credit come from? At the beginning of the post where it lists their work including various Saw sequels, etc. it lists Pacific Rim. Did they have some top secret involvement with Pacific Rim that no one is aware of or is this simply a completely false credit added by Mr. Disgusting for some seemingly unfathomable reason? It seems like I continue to see more and more incorrect information on this site lately and it’s awfully disappointing. I’m pretty certain neither Dunstan or Melton had ANY involvement whatsoever with Pacific Rim, very odd. If I’m wrong, please feel free to prove me so, but that seems like an odd and random credit which I’m fairly certain is incorrect.
    Nonetheless, couldn’t be more excited to see them tackle Halloween!

    • wehoaks

      Uncredited rewrite.

  • Sorry, but Michael Myers on Death Row? Did they not get the memo? Michael Myers is The Boogieman – you can’t put The Boogieman on Death Row. This is shaping up to be another Rob-Zombie-esque embarrassment, because once again the writers don’t understand what Halloween is all about..

    • A-TOWN CALI DUDE

      Why does everyone have a problem with Michael Myers being on death row? I mean he was in the nuthouse for 15 years and he was STILL the boogeyman….what the fuck is the big deal…? I mean, John Carpenter incarcerated him….so what’s the big deal? Does it make him any less than what he is? C’mon people! John Carpenter said that Michael Myers is part supernatural entity/ part human, so wouldn’t it be logical that the part of him that is human could be caught and locked up? It certainly don’t make him any less the Michael Myers I knew and was scared shitless of when I was growing up, so c’mon people- give it a shot.

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  • Halloween_Vic

    I just hope they don’t fuck this up!!! The disrespect to Michael’s character if they do not make this a bad ass scary Halloween film!!!! I NEED TENSION AND SUSPENSE SUSPENSE SUSPENSE!!!!!

    • kenneth Tanner

      Agree 100 %!
      At the same time I hope they won’t screw this up and at the same time I’m stoked up for this. I scratch my head everytime when I hear the rumors that Michael will be on death row. I’m like Michael Myers will get the death penalty?
      I prey that this movie turns out good I’m still stoked for this movie.

      • wehoaks

        It’s not rumors. That is the plot – Michael on death row.

      • Halloween_Vic

        I just feel like take out the death row scenario honestly it’s been done to death and I can’t see it happening to Michael. Like Michael on death penalty?? I mean the coma concept kinda worked in part 4 but death penalty? I mean I say scratch that come up with something more original I mean damm considering its taken them this long to get the movie up and running I say they can come up with something wayy more better. I’m just super fucking excited that were getting a new Halloween film, I honestly never want them to stop making them. I’m just stoked that we get to see the King Of Halloween on the big screen again, and I hope they give him the justice he deserves with this film!!! MY BODY IS BEYOND READYYYYY!!!!!!!

        • kenneth Tanner

          Same here 🙂

          • Halloween_Vic

            I just hope they don’t make it cheesy and go back to the roots as to what made Michael so scary in the original!!!

          • kenneth Tanner

            Exactly, I really have a lot of hopes for this film because I heard that this Michael Myers will be the true Micheal Myers and what I mean by that is they will bring back Carpenters roots. So if they are going for that aspect I’m quite sure this movie has to be good.

          • Halloween_Vic

            Exactly! I want him lurking in the shadows, I want random creepy shots where you just hear him breathing from inside the mask not knowing where he is stalking his victims. I want it to be dark and suspenseful. And I want it to make sense tying in with the first 2 films. God I just want more updates and official news on this already!!!!!

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  • Billy Bob Throrton

    last time we had an 18 year old in a slasher sequel,they didn’t bother having time make sense.
    And Leatherface became a superhero

  • George W. Kush

    Sounds ambitious, hope he can pull it off.

  • angelo

    I think the death row idea would be a good idea only if Laurie strode was there to watch him get executed ..I think a good scene would be her watching him behind a mirror and him staring at her then she asks if he can see her and someone says no then he escapes and hunts her again.

    • A-TOWN CALI DUDE

      I totally agree

  • Halloween_Vic

    I want Michael back in the shadows, I want creepy random shots were you just hear him breathing from inside the mask, not knowing where he is exactly stalking his victims. I want suspense and gore which can be done. I want a damm stab-athon with that kitchen knife. And I want the film to be dark and suspense, literally bring the life that the original did.

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