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Did You Spot the ‘IT’ and ‘The Shining’ Connections in ‘The Dark Tower’ Trailer?

Stephen King rules the world.

We woke up this morning to the reveal of the first official trailer for Nikolaj Arcel’s The Dark Tower, which will be the first new Stephen King adaptation to hit the big screen in quite some time. With IT following directly in its wake, just one month later, there’s reason to believe that The Dark Tower will be the start of what we’d like to call the Stephen King Cinematic Universe.

And the trailer, well, it seems to all but confirm that.

If you paid close attention to The Dark Tower trailer, you may have spotted direct references to both The Shining and IT, two of King’s most iconic horror tales. On the desk of a therapist’s office is a photo of The Shining‘s infamous Overlook Hotel, and later in the trailer, young Jake Chambers stumbles across what looks to be the ruins of Pennywise’s very own theme park!

What does it all mean? Are they just fun homages and nothing more? We’ll find out soon!

The film is not a direct adaptation of any of the books in the series from author Stephen King but is rather a continuation and semi-amalgamation of what’s already out there. It’s hinted that the film takes place towards the end of Deschain’s journey.

Jake Chambers (Tom Taylor) is a young 11-year-old adventure seeker who discovers clues about another dimension called Mid-World. Upon following the mystery, he is spirited away to Mid-World where he encounters the lone frontiersman knight Roland Deschain (Idris Elba), who is on a quest to reach the ‘Dark Tower’ that resides in End-World and reach the nexus point between time and space that he hopes will save Mid-World from extinction. But with various monsters and a vicious sorcerer named Walter Padick (Matthew McConaughey) hot on their trail, the unlikely duo find that their quest may be difficult to complete.

The film also stars Fran Kranz, Jackie Earle Haley, Abbey Lee, and Kathryn Winnick.

The Dark Tower, which was recently delayed to Aug. 4, 2017, was directed by Nikolaj Arcel and produced by Akiva Goldman, Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, and Erica Hughes.



COMMENTS

81 Comments
  • Here we go with the whole “universe” talk. lol

    • Khy

      Lol exactly.

  • Charlie

    I think it would be awesome if Pennywise actually passed through Mid-World, fed and found It’s way to Derry somehow. 😀

    • Brandon MisterJuicy Alexander

      its pretty clear that that creature is one of the “outer dark” baddies in between todash space and our world.

    • Noah Whateley

      It’s been theorized that the Dandelo was the same species as Pennywise, as well that the Crimson King and Mordred may be some variation of the species.

      • Charlie

        I like that idea! It makes it much funner to imagine where they all originated from and how they are interconnected in one way or another.

  • Khy

    Both IT and Dark Tower are by different companies. Fail.

    • Doby Gillis

      Doesn’t say they were the same company genius.

      • Khy

        Then why bother suggesting they are part of one cinematic universe? Shut the fuck up. You sound as brainless as the moron who wrote this shit article.

        • ChampionOfLight

          I mean… nothing is directly suggesting they are part of one cinematic universe. The book series tied together and these will likely be Easter Eggs that also suggest the stories are connected without anything more then that. Nowhere does the article say that the actual clown featured in the upcoming IT film will appear in it or anything of that nature. Are you not familiar with The Dark Tower series?

          • Khy

            “With IT following directly in its wake, just one month later, there’s reason to believe that The Dark Tower will be the start of what we’d like to call the Stephen King Cinematic Universe. And the trailer, well, it seems to all but confirm that.”

            That’s from the article and you STILL doesn’t see what’s wrong with that? All the trailer confirms is Easter eggs- no Cinematic Universe.

            What is so fucking hard to comprehend? Obviously there will be Easter eggs, why in the world wouldn’t you think I would know that? There’s a big fucking image in the article that clearly references PENNYWISE for crying out loud. ACTUALLY read what I’m saying. I’m saying that despite there being references to King’s other works that doesn’t automatically mean Dark Tower and IT, as FILMS, are both connected and are in the same CINEMATIC universe. They are by two separate companies. That doesn’t mean Dark Tower can’t have a Pennywise reference or vice verse but they aren’t in the same cinematic universe. For there to be a shared cinematic universe it has to be a conscious effort put forth by the company- Marvel clearly as a cinematic universe, DC is trying to have a cinematic universe, Universal has a cinematic universe- what do they have in common? One company. It and Dark Tower are just two SK adaptations. Nothing more and not the start of a cinematic universe.

          • ChampionOfLight

            You need to calm down, bud. I didn’t bother to read your whole reply because you seem to be freaking out over nothing. No one is directly suggesting what you are complaining about and you are reading way too much into it. This article says “we won’t know that’ll mean until it releases” and that is true. What isn’t true is – “All the trailer confirms is Easter eggs- no Cinematic Universe.” because the trailer, itself, doesn’t confirm the context at all. I’m not saying I believe this is proof of a cinematic universe nor is this article. You are the only one claiming this confirms something when it actually doesn’t confirm anything right now. Chill out.

          • Khy

            “You need to calm down, bud. I didn’t bother to read your whole reply because you seem to be freaking out over nothing”

            And I’m supposed to read yours? Fuck off, cunt.

          • ChampionOfLight

            I wasn’t expecting you to read it. You’re clearly a child with some rage issues.

          • Khy

            And yet you continue to respond. If you’re not going to engage in an actual conversation, go away bastard.

          • ChampionOfLight

            I never said I wouldn’t respond or engage in a conversation. I’ll read your replies despite your rage but that first one was just too long and too much absurdity. I’m not being a prick – you are literally making a big deal out of something that isn’t a big deal at all and misconstruing both this article and the trailer into saying definitive things when neither are saying either. Just chill out.

          • Khy

            -I made a simple comment

            -You morons got your panties in a twist and put words in my mouth.

            – I defended myself and broke down what I meant.

            The end. I’m not sitting behind my monitor yanking strands of hair out of my scalp over a few Neanderthals who cannot read.

          • ChampionOfLight

            I replied to a comment of you freaking out over nothing. I’m not directly or indirectly reading or replying to any other discussions or arguments you have with others. YOU are sitting behind a monitor acting like a childish prick making clear assumptions about this article, the film, and individuals replying to you.

            I am willing to have a conversation but you continue to take it down the path of you whining or bitching. This last reply is just you defending yourself (a meaningless task after your first post) when you could have instead rationally stated whatever point you wanted to make with out insults or bitching. You wanna try again or was this never actually a real conversation?

          • Khy

            It was a conversation when I replied to you with that long reply breaking every thing down of what I meant and no where in that reply did I insult you- but then you felt the need to announce you didn’t read it so that was that. Nothing to talk about. Move on.

          • ChampionOfLight

            Never claimed you insulted me there. I didn’t bother reading it because how long and whiny it was. Your very first post was childishly annoying. And you are the one that seems to have an issue – not me. As I said before, I’m willing to talk about YOUR issues but you really ought to chill out. It’s just an article talking about a two minute trailer and you FREAKED out over an implication (that was really just a suggestion).

            You don’t want to talk about it now? Fine by me. You’re acting like an idiot and are way off base with your initial post and continued replies. I could be respectful and read your previous responses through but it’s clearly a waste of time since you’re still trying to argue very clear nonsense with such hostility.

            Grow up, kid.

          • Khy

            I made a simple comment. YOU freaked out a blew a damn balloon out of a fucking condom.

          • ChampionOfLight

            LOL – when did I blow a balloon? You made a nonsense and rage induced comment like a simpleton. I didn’t freak out to it but you certainly freaked out and continue to for each response and now focus on it on each reply rather then try and actually continue your failed original argument.

          • Khy

            “Both IT and Dark Tower are by different companies.”

            What was so rage induced about this?

          • Colonel Ives

            JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP

          • Khy

            Well since you put it like that…..no. Drop dead, fag.

          • Colonel Ives

            but I’m not gay

          • ChampionOfLight

            I actually replied a bit further down after you had gone crazy on someone for, what you claim, sounding “patronizing” but I did think, at that time, that it was your first post. Seriously, look through YOUR replies to people. I think you are taking every reply as an attack. But we can return to a point before all of that and I’ll offer you a reply to your very first post –

            “Both IT and Dark Tower are by different companies.”

            That doesn’t actually matter. Nothing is saying they can’t (or won’t) tie them together (like another user pointed out with an example of ‘Unbreakable’ and ‘Split’) but no one is actually saying they are tying the films together either. I agreed in my first reply that it could just be an Easter Egg or it could be an actual part of the story (as it was in The Dark Tower) without being an active part of the story (even if they talk about what Pennywise was or something like that doesn’t mean the entity ever needs to appear in the Clown form in this film and I certainly wouldn’t expect that). They can still put in hooks that tie all the films together without ever tying them together into a “cinematic universe”. Your complaint seems to be “this is not a cinematic universe!” but no one is actually claiming that is, in fact, the case at all. But you are claiming, as a fact, that it is not – which you actually can’t say from anything that has been revealed or shown so far. That is just as much speculation as this site claiming it’s possible.

          • Khy

            Yeah….still not connected. Nice try though. Lulz

          • ChampionOfLight

            Wow… what a well thought out response. Just kidding. You’re such a joke.

          • Noah Whateley

            So…. let me get this straight…. are you trying to argue that It and Dark Tower aren’t in the same universe because they’re by different production companies? And you make this argument despite there being, a wee bit above your insipid arguments about “condensation” (you mean “condescension”?) and “patronizing” there’s an image showing that the two are, in fact, linked?

          • Khy

            1) Welcome to 3 days ago.

            2) Easter eggs and homages does not = connected cinematic universe .

            3) There’s nothing to argue. They are not connected and no matter how much your desperate ass reach you won’t turn your delusion into reality. Dark Tower (2017) and IT (2017) are two seperate films.

          • Noah Whateley

            1.) One day ago. I guess reading comprehension is right up there with spelling for you, eh?

            2.) It’s not an “homage,” there is a link between the two, with another creature of the same species as Pennywise appearing in the books.

            3.) Two separate films that are both in the same literary universe. But, by your logic, It (1990) and It (2017) have nothing in common either cos they’re not by the same company.

            And I’m really sorry you’re having difficulty getting that stick out of your ass, maybe you should try drinking some lye to get rid of it?

          • Khy

            You are very much confused. I am not saying anything close to what you’re rambling about. If you actually read ALL my replies with an open mind and somewhat of a functioning brain you’d know you’re far off. You’re too focused on trying to insult me to even give a consistent arguement to what I’m saying.

            Just drop it. We’re both speaking two different languages at this point.

          • Noah Whateley

            I have read your inane babbling, though I must admit, I stopped when it felt like Dachau was open for business with my brain cells being lead into the showers.

            Your argument is nonsensical. You argue that It (2017) and The Dark Tower can’t possible be linked cos they’re made by different companies, even though The Dark Tower makes an overt reference to It as well as the 1990 version of It being made by a separate company.

            It’s like saying Rogue One and Empire Strikes Back have nothing in common cos one’s made by Disney and the other by LucasFilms.

          • Khy

            Lol Dude, drop it. I’m not about to go breaking down my entire point yet again because that ball of puss you call a brain cannot understand it . Being right on the internet is not that important to me- my life is not that pathetic.

            So just stop wasting my time dear. You don’t get it- thats ok. *pats

          • Noah Whateley

            Bru, let’s face it, you have no point and you never did. Your point was built upon your own illiteracy and incapable of looking at the pictures attached to the article you’re commenting on. It’s okay though, I heard there’s always a need for new broom-pushers.

          • Khy

            Un huh. You are sooo right! Get that last word in gurl . We know that’s vital to winning an e-arguement!

            Drag me hunty! Even though you still have no idea what my point was. But A for effort!

          • Noah Whateley

            Gods below, I’m sorry your mother dropped you on your head or you were molested as a toddler or whatever it is that made you this… special.

          • Khy

            Molested as a toddler? Really? You want to poke fun at molestation you sick fuck?

        • macguffin Fifty four

          There are 2 books by the same person and most of King’s books are related. So just because they aren’t by the same movie companies does not mean their stories and “worlds” cannot connect, as the books often do.

          • Khy

            Movies and books are DIFFERENT entities. Yes, the books all easily exist within the same Universe or Multi-verse, however, this article is suggesting that IT and Dark Tower are also part of a shared CINEMATIC universe- that’s is completely different and untrue. Obviously there will be homages to the novels and references because as you all put it, they ARE written by the same person, but that doesn’t automatically mean that just because there’s a cool Pennywise reference in the film of Dark Tower that its automatically connecting to IT (2017)- that’s what a lot of people keep assuming.

        • Kate

          Is there something wrong with you? Why are you trashing another SK fan? Get a grip, man.

          • Khy

            Yes, because his reply was not at all dripping with condensation.

          • SmilingChaos

            Dripping with condensation? That’s a new one. How does one infer the moisture level of a comment, exactly?

          • Khy

            *Pats*. God loves his little retards, allllll the retards of the world.

          • SmilingChaos

            Oh aren’t you just precious. An imaginary entity loves you. You must be so fulfilled. Did god tell you you’re special? Is that why you think you can get away with being condescending (note the spelling) while others cannot. Your entire rant has given me a good laugh today sweetheart. Keep up the crazy, it’s hilarious.

          • Khy

            Lol, I love how you take my sarcastic snarky reply and turn it into a religious debate. FYI- I’m an atheist. You- an idiot.

    • Darkknight2149

      There doesn’t need to be a direct AVENGERS-style crossover for the movies to be in the same cinematic universe. The references to IT and SHINING in the trailer imply some connection to those works (or, at the very least, a version of them).

      • Khy

        A version of them, yes. NEVER argued that. But IT (2017) and Dark Tower (2017) are specifically NOT connected and aren’t a cinematic universe.

        • Darkknight2149

          But that’s the point – We DON’T know that for certain. In fact, it will likely be left open to interpretation unless there is a direct crossover or contradiction. You’re making some pretty big assumptions.

          Frankly, the studio separation doesn’t matter as much as you think it does, as there are ways of implying connection without violating copyright.

          For example, nearly EVERY film in George Romero’s “Dead” series was owned by a different studio and were in the same universe, yet he was able to get around that by not blatantly re-using characters or assets from the other movies.

          • Khy

            Don’t you think both teams behind Dark Tower and IT would’ve been vocal about this a long time ago if it was true? Shared universes are huge these days so why nothing said?

            Because they are simply two seperate adaptations and nothing more. Why is that so difficult to accept? I don’t live in a world of conspiracies and “maybes”.

          • Darkknight2149

            Just because there is no discussion now doesn’t mean that there can’t be discussions in the future or that there even needs to be discussions for them to place connections.

            Outright assuming that they are in the same universe is jumping the gun. Outright assuming they’re not in the same universe is STILL jumping the gun. We simply have to wait and see. For all we know, it could be left open to interpretation forever.

            Some movies leave things open for the viewer, you know. Many audiences seem to have gotten used to having everything explained to them with persistent prequels, sequels, ETC, for some reason.

      • Chad Langen

        Split and Unbreakable are connected. Split was Universal – Unbreakable was Buena Vista.

  • Doby Gillis

    Looks like shite. This could be any generic post apocalyptic summer movie garbage.

    • WALKTER

      I just googled this and apparently you’re wrong, so there NYAH.

  • It’s nice to have little easter eggs and references, but that doesn’t mean they take place in the same universe, nor should they.

    • Khy

      Logic lives! Exactly!

      • I LOVE finding the little nods to something else in a film just like I’m always excited to do the Sam Raimi scavenger hunt – find Bruce, find Ted, find the Classic, but the fact that Uncle Ben from Spiderman and Ash Williams drive the same car doesn’t mean much aside from Sam really likes his car, you know?

        • Khy

          Haha, yes! All I was doing was clarifying this because a lot of people assume IT and Dark Tower are connected films by the same company but unfortunately a pile of the internet’s brightest decided to jump on me without comprehending what I was saying. People are always ready for a fight.

          You brought it out perfectly! Thank you.

          • Well how dare you have your own educated, ten-seconds-worth-of-research-backed opinion about something?

    • Antaar Garcia Avila

      In the Dark Tower books there are references to almost every other story written by King and since book one, he lets us know that his stories exist in different universes, but some exist in the same 🙂

      • And I love them, like Stuttering Bill the robot and mentioning the Deadlights, but a nice little wink to fans of other things doesn’t mean we need an intricate cinematic universe. I guess it could be cool if done correctly, but they’re just so vastly different to me that I don’t much like the idea.

        • ChowYunPhat

          It’s also kind of pointless to have Easter eggs to other books/films when they don’t even have the rights to the name Randall Flagg and will never call him anything but the man in black.

          • Kristoffer Groves

            Who has the rights to “Randall Flagg?”

          • ChowYunPhat

            I’ve read that whatever studio it is that has the rights to The Stand, has exclusive rights to the name Randall Flagg. That seems really weird and hopefully untrue, but it would be similar to some of the problems Marvel has had with character rights.

          • The Drucifer

            Makes sense Flagg was introduced in THE STAND. Sucks.

          • The Drucifer

            Warner Bros I imagine.

      • Gary Miller

        In the books there even a reference to King himself!

    • ninetongues

      You are wrong. It is one great universe, not just “easter eggs” and King himself said so.

      The story of the Dark Tower is full of characters from other King’s works. In the books Roland and Jake fight a Pennywise’s brother, whole ka-tet meets Brautigan from Hearts in Atlantis (there was a movie too, with Anthony Hopkins), father Callahan from Salem’s Lot and many, many more, and the movie fully embraces that, as again, confirmed by the King himself on his Twitter.

      Here’s the full list: http://stephenking.com/darktower/connections/

      • Randy_Boreton

        I thought that the creature like Pennywise is IT’s offspring?

        • ninetongues

          King said that Dandelo is Pennywise’s kin, but never gave more details on it.

      • Rich Stephens

        Yep. Randall Flagg from The Shining is the same protagonist in Eyes of The Dragon and The Dark Tower series. It’s all connected. The Tower is the center of all worlds, both in Roland’s experience, and in King’s books.

    • Craig Forshaw

      Walter Padick is literally in a dozen or so Stephen King stories – his most famous name is Randall Flagg, the antagonist in The Stand. There is a were-spider in the story, who is the same freaking species as Pennywise. Heck, in the books, Stephen freaking King even shows up at one point.

      Also, most of the hints coming from set suggested that this was a sequel to the books, not an adaptation, too, so they’re free to largely do whatever they like.

      • The Drucifer

        Roland has the Horn, it’s a sequel.

    • The Drucifer

      Dark Tower links almost all the man’s work.

  • Donald Milliken

    I’m surprised no one’s mention Castle Rock, the upcoming Hulu limited series, though I guess it hasn’t gotten a lot of attention yet. The teaser trailer strongly evokes the shared universe of King’s books and the show itself is described as taking place on the margins of many of King’s better known stories. It seems to me that if there is a King cinematic universe in the works, this show will potentially play a key role in building that world and creating connections between King’s works.

  • Ga Outlaw

    possible spoiler while not likely I’m hoping that the way Insomnia was written off as having nothing to do with Roland’s journey will be changed. I’m also hoping that the connections to ‘Salem’s Lot are left in.

    • Annie McCaffrey

      I agree. Though we will have to wait for the future movies to see that I think. Lets hope that this 1st movie will generate enough attention so they make the rest.

  • ChelseaGoneAwry

    I don’t know anything about this book series, so for once I get to go into a film adaptation of a novel completely blind (praise). I like what I’ve seen so far. Can’t wait to see the whole thing!

  • Craig Forshaw

    Technically, if Pennywise’s Circus is there, that means that it is also in the world of Joe Hill’s novels, too. It was confirmed to be there in NOS4R2.

    • Brando

      Was there mention of Pennywise in N0S4A2? I can’t remember.

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