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Here’s How YOU Can Help Make Sure “Ash vs. Evil Dead” Continues

Here’s How YOU Can Help Make Sure “Ash vs. Evil Dead” Continues

This is about more than signing a petition. Which you should.

One of the things that makes the horror genre so special is that it’s essentially run by us, the fans. It’s our support that allows the movie franchises and television shows we love to continue, but it’s also our lack of support that can result in them dying premature deaths.

And for Starz’s “Ash vs. Evil Dead, well, the future isn’t so certain right now.

As we learned last week, the third season of “Ash vs. Evil Dead” will premiere on Sunday, February 25, 2018, likely bumped out of its usual October slot so that it can have some distance from an already crowded Fall; after all, these breezy months will be dominated by more widely popular shows like “The Walking Dead” and “Stranger Things.”

While we shouldn’t necessarily be alarmed that Starz has shifted their original plans for Season 3, the reality is that the forthcoming season (and how much support we do or don’t give it) is going to dictate the future of the series… or if it even gets to have one. Because not only has Starz not yet renewed the series for another season, but there are also new bosses in town.

At the tail end of last year, Lionsgate closed a deal to acquire Starz, which means that the “Ash vs. Evil Dead” bosses, well, they now have bosses of their own.

As reported by the website 1428 Elm, which has been doing a great job fighting the good fight on behalf of “Ash vs. Evil Dead,” Bruce Campbell was on hand at New York Comic Con this past weekend and he repeatedly made mention of the series not yet being renewed – while also repeatedly urging fans to show their support.

From what we gather, and based on what Campbell has recently been saying, the ratings aren’t quite high enough to make another renewal a sure thing, and the high level of piracy is further contributing to Starz, and now Lionsgate, getting cold feet about the future. Bottom line, there’s worry that the new bosses will pull the plug entirely.

We’re one of the most illegally downloaded shows,” Campbell recently told Oregon Live. “What does that say about our fans? They’re a bunch of jerks — ‘We want it, we like it, we just don’t want to pay for it.’” 

In that same interview, Campbell seemed to suggest that there’s so much concern about the future that the Season 3 team “made sure our storyline was wrapped up in a good way.”

How can you help? Campbell laid out a 4-step plan at NYCC, relayed by 1428 Elm:

  1. Download the Starz app. Do the 30-day free trial. Binge the show. Delete the app. Cost to you: $0.
  2. Purchase Starz through your local cable provider. Cost to you: Prices vary according to area and company.
  3. Purchase the show DVDs and Blu-rays. Merchandising is important. If you fork over the dough, you get the show. Cost to you: DVDs: Walmart $14.96 for Season 1. Walmart $23.82 for Season 2.  Blu-rays: Walmart $14.96 for Season 1. Walmart $23.82 for Season 2.
  4. Start binge watching AVED if you have the app. Introduce friends to the show.

Of course, it’s equally important that you watch “Ash vs. Evil Dead” when it returns on February 25, 2018. Talk about it. Tell your friends. WATCH. IT. LEGALLY.

Signing a petition won’t get “Ash vs. Evil Dead” renewed. But our hardcore support, particularly our financial support, can and will make a difference in this fight.

You wanted it. You begged for it. You love it. Support it. #BringBackBoomstick



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COMMENTS

186 Comments
  • qwef

    How about THEY make the effort to make the show good enough for more people to watch it?

    • john

      That’s not what this article is about but thank you for sharing.

      • qwef

        It definitely is. The show is struggling for obvious reasons (and those reasons are not piracy)

        But we have Bruce coming out blaming fans and retweeting petitions to keep the show up? Why don’t they simply put more effort into making the show better than the mess it has been for 2 seasnos now is what im asking.

        • No. If you don’t like the show, don’t watch it. That’s fine. Not what this article is about. That’s not who Bruce is talking to. He is saying vote with your wallets.

          “We want it, we like it, we just don’t want to pay for it.”

          “Talk about it. Tell your friends. WATCH. IT. LEGALLY.”

    • John Connor

      To know the quality that means you watched it, dumbass.

  • pablitonizer

    I get the petition and it sounds fair to help. However, if audience is walking away from the show then they should ask themselves what the reason might be…Piracy? probably coz it’s not HBO we’re talking about here. Story declining? Probably too, season 2 was not as good as the season 1. Date shift to Feb will only make things worse imo

    • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

      You think HBO doesn’t have a problem with piracy?? Ash vs Evil Dead may be ONE OF the most pirated shows but Game of Thrones is THE most pirated show bar none.

  • Muscle Struts

    https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/
    Piracy doesn’t really affect sales. Piracy is an issue of accessibility than it is money. Look at how much steam cut down on PC gaming piracy.

    • WondrousPoop

      BS. Piracy is a cheap entitled douchebag issue.

      • Muscle Struts

        Wonderful rebuttal. Now will you actually address my points?

        • WondrousPoop

          I did. I pointed out that the real reason is because you’re a cheap, entitled douchebag. Pay for shit or admit you steal. Thief.

          • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

            Easy tough guy. Your mom catches you talking like this and she’s going to cut off your internet

          • WondrousPoop

            Deflection, check. Thief

      • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

        And being a troll is a desperate cry for attention. Not much better in my opinion

        • WondrousPoop

          Double deflection. Double check. Thief.

          • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

            Jesus you are thick. You’re kind of like a rabid dog aren’t you? Just attacking anything that moves, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. You’re so busy mindlessly raging at everyone you’re forgetting who’s who. Pay attention. IM NOT A PIRATE. I BOUGHT THE BLU RAY SETS AND HAVE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION TO STARS. I’m not defending piracy, im merely pointing out that you are acting like a juvenile twat because surprise! You are acting like a juvenile twat. Hope this clears it up. More rants on diarrhea and finger pointing please. It makes you look well smart and not at all like an angry 12 year old trying to be edgy

          • WondrousPoop

            Thief.

    • I can understand in certain instances of accessibility (such as not being available in your country by official means with no signs of release; or a comic book/novel being completely and permanently out of print), but largely you should support the creators. And there are many, many instances were people are “entitled douchebags”, as WonderousPoop so elegantly put it, and simply don’t care.

      I sometimes hear people argue “It’s no different from borrowing from a friend”, but chances are the ‘friend’ purchased it legally and the copy belongs to them. As long as they aren’t doing anything shady, what they do with it is their business.

      I also hear people compare piracy to a library, but a library is an official institution and they obtain their copies legally. Libraries also exist for a specific purpose. Publishers even donate books to a library on occasion, they often contain works that are out of print or are public domain, you usually need a card to use a library, their selection is limited, ETC. A library is more analogous to Google or Netflix than piracy.

      Really, there are very few excuses for piracy. Have their been instances in history where piracy of an unknown product increased sales? Probably, but that’s the silver lining of a bad situation. If you don’t plan on supporting the work, can access a work by official means in your area, and it isn’t out of print, then don’t steal it.

  • le4therfac3

    in the uk we can watch it just a day after the us on demand, and contribute to the show without pirating for a change. a lot of people pirate over here because sometimes we don’t get shows until months after the us. sometimes not at all. so i’ll say, like muscle strusts and his article, that it’s definitely more of an accessibility issue.

    • Archipelagos

      What service do you use in the UK to see it?

      • Saturn

        It’s on Virgin.

        • Archipelagos

          Thank you.

    • WondrousPoop

      Waaaaah you have to wait waaaah.

      • silverfishimperitrix

        He makes a valid point. No need to be a jerk about it.

        • Charlie

          Was just thinking the same.

        • WondrousPoop

          Ah yes, I’m the jerk, not the shitbag thief.

          • silverfishimperitrix

            You’re finally getting it!

          • WondrousPoop

            Neat! Thief.

          • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

            He may be a thief, true, but obnoxious asshole? That’s all you baby

          • WondrousPoop

            And?

        • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

          The guys name is WondrousPoop, and all he does is bitch. It’s called being an attention starved troll

          • WondrousPoop

            Bitch? Nah. Call you a thieving douchebag? Yes. Get over yourself, loser.

          • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

            Seriously, are you on some sort of medication? Or need to be? Clean the wondrous poop out of your ears and pay attention. I DIDNT PIRATE ANYTHING. I own both series on blu Ray because I love the show. News flash, I’m not calling you an obnoxious prick because I’m defending piracy, I’m calling you an obnoxious prick because you are acting like an obnoxious prick. Trolling and acting like a jerk doesn’t make your argument look any better. At this point, in the class department i think I’d have to hand it to the “pirate theives”. At least they are keeping it halfway adult. You are just spewing toxic childish garbage. Maybe take your own advice and get over yourself?

          • WondrousPoop

            Hahaha look at you.

      • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

        Months these days is too much with all the spoilers around for everything. This is the fucking internet, everything should be available for everyone at the same time. Until the movie business stops treating the internet like it’s cable-tv this is what they’ll have to live with. The world of torrenting has taken a big hit now with services like Spotify and Netflix etc, that should be a sign to them which way they should head but noooo, make it like it was before again.

        • WondrousPoop

          The gymnastic you tools go through. Just admit you steal, losers.

          • John Connor

            What’s stolen?

          • WondrousPoop

            Deflection, check. Thief.

  • Andrew Kasch

    Don’t come here trying to justify piracy.

    If you pirate, you’re NOT a fan. You’re an entitled leach. It’s that simple.

    • Muscle Struts

      I’ll still come here an explain why piracy is a thing, why it doesn’t affect the bottom line (saying it does operates under the assumption that every person who pirates would have brought the product in the first place), and why blaming piracy is such a lazy cop-out so as not to admit any potential faults.

      I also want to know the breakdown of what countries are pirating Ash vs Evil Dead, and what the availability of Starz in those countries are. I know folks in Russia, Brazil, and SEA countries who pirate because those services aren’t available in those countries.

      • That’s a different debate. I agree that piracy doesn’t really impact bottom line, that’s why the first option Bruce gives costs zero dollars. It’s not about cash, it’s about potential cash.

        Piracy does not provide reliable citable metrics that allow for future investments from financiers. That’s the only data that’s useful in getting content like this produced. That’s the game.

    • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

      Can’t get Starz in my country, it’s THAT simple you uppity prick.

      • Andrew Kasch

        Then buy the Blu Ray, pirate.

        • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

          Predictable answer is predictable. What if I have? I’ll still have to pirate it to begin with if I want to be caught up on the episodes week by week.

          • WondrousPoop

            yeah but you didn’t buy it.

            You don’t have to do anything. You CHOOSE to steal it because you’re an impatient, entitled douche. You don’t see me sticking my hand in the corn dog batter you’re mixing. I wait for you to deep fry that fucker and then buy it from you, Darren.

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            Hey genious, listen: If I can’t get Starz then me downloading it can’t take away any money that they wouldn’t be able to get in the first place. Buying the show on discs is then the only way I can pay to watch it and that’s what I’m doing.

          • WondrousPoop

            Oh the irony in your statement…

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            Oh the lack of substance in your statements. Either say something or get better at trolling.

          • WondrousPoop

            Troll? So lame. So tired. Get a new term, genius (that’s the correct spelling, pirate).

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            English is not my first language so excuse me for the 99% perfect grammar there. Big woop, right? Ragging on people’s spelling? So lame. So tired. Get a new OH HOLY SHIT ACTUAL POOP CAME OUT MY MOUTH BUURFGHLFRUUUURGHLLL. Get a real hobby dude.

          • WondrousPoop

            Relax, pirate.

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            There’s a tiny banana dancing inside my ass. He asks for you but I’m keeping him to myself.

          • Charlie

            Dude, it’s cool. Don’t worry about him. You’re already doing your part. He doesn’t have to deal with your circumstances so he doesn’t relate. I gotcha though!

        • Johnny Five

          Why not both?

    • Ronault Trowbridge

      Exactly! I subscribed to Starz for each season … not interested in the channel after that so I cancelled! I will subscribe again when season 3 starts. Plus I bought seasons 1&2 on blu ray to add to my collection!!

  • Necro

    I can PROUDLY say that I’ve done all the things suggested by Bruce! The thing is I’ve done all of them awhile ago. The only one is the petition, which I gladly did a couple days ago.

  • Bart Crowe

    I binged the episodes during a free trial weekend of Starz but I bought both seasons on Blu Ray so I guess that is okay? Honestly the only two things on Starz I want to see is Ash vs The Evil Dead and American Gods so I can’t justify paying for a premium service.
    Speaking of pirating I bet American Gods is up there with Ash vs. The Evil Dead.

  • jurgmandr

    loved the first season, second season was alright. Might just binge em again to get ready for this season.

  • Jonny Bones

    I love The Evil Dead. Its hands down my favourite horror film of all time. And While I love Bruce Campbell and was excited for this show, I feel there is faaaar too much slap-stick “Army Of Darkness” in the show, instead of real Horror grueling Horror like Evil Dead. Sure we can have a joke every now and again, and we all love a catchy Ash One Liner, but the show is pretty much a farce, a lampoon of the franchise. With no real scares or tension. We need a bit more from the wirting and little less schlocky “Raimi”ness from it and get some real horror mixed in there. I feared they would follow a more comedic Army Of Darkness vibe, and I was right. Which is an odd choice seeing as how Army Of Darkness was a huge financial disaster and people are generally EVIL DEAD fans, and Army Of Darkness is more of a guilty pleasure or a fun little side kick to the mastery that is Evil Dead. If the show can get itself back on track, I think more people would tune in.

    • AoD was a box office bomb but a massive cult film. The majority of the aspects of the character of Ash, catch-phrases, gimmicks, tone etc that kept the franchise alive for decades in comics, video games came from that film. It’s what made him an icon. If it had just been the first 2, we never would have gotten here. And to that point, ED2 itself was sort of parody lampoon of the original. There is only so long you can sustain that sort of true horror tension in a franchise.

      It makes perfect sense that’s the route and tone they went for. It’s what Bruce excels at, it’s what Sam likes and for many fans, it’s what they wanted. And if the rumors are true, Season 3 will directly reference AoD finally and I couldn’t be happier.

      • Jonny Bones

        Agreed that AoD became a Cult Hit. But a lot of Ash’s character came from Evil Dead 2, which I agree is much more campy and slap stick. I don’t need a full on Horror film, as I think if the show took itself too seriously it would not work. But the show pushes the comedy too far and most of the jokes fall flat. Honestly, the giant colon shit monster in season 2? Or how about the ketamine fueled party with Bruce and Ted Raimi? Casual Ketamine use isn’t really funny, and the whole plot kind of fell off. I’m just saying they can do a better job with the show is all. I’m a HUGE fan, but these are honest critics. I just saw bruce at his book signing 2 days ago and his own words. “We did Evil Dead and had no clue what we were doing, and we made something special. We did Evil Dead 2, we had some money, and knew what we were doing and we did it perfect. We did Army Of Darkness, had a ton of money and we basically ruined the franchise”. These are his words, not mine. I’m just saying, you ask the average person, and they say I love EVIL DEAD. The uber successful musical, is EVIL DEAD: The Musical, which pulls from Evil Dead 1 & 2 and very briefly mentions Army Of Darkness. The massivly popular remake, was EVIL DEAD. Various video games were of EVIL DEAD, the only thing Army Of Darkness spawned was a bunch of great one liners (no one can argue that, those lines are gold) and a comic series that was pretty great and them became very, very bad.

        I just think they need to find a solid balance and write some better episodes and more interesting character arch. instead of relying on old one liners, poop jokes, making ash a sexist/racist/drug addict for no reason (never was a thing in ANY of the films… ok, MAYBE the sexist thing a bit in Army of Darkness).

        I’m just saying, the show and Bruce are capable of better work. If the damn musical can be a smash hit, that will run probably forever, why can’t the writing team get their shit together and make the show work better?

        • All good points. ED is definitely the brand. AoD was supposed to carry that brand name as well. I think there is a more hard horror possibility for that brand too, as the remake demonstrated, but not with Ash. Ash is sort of his own thing. He’s a cartoon character.

          For my money, I like the absurdity of the show. I think Bruce, Sam and co. like to do things that make them laugh, that they have never done before and that we have never seen before. It’s all matters of taste of course, but T think they are being true to themselves, and that’s all you can do in this sort of creativity. Colon shit monster was unlike any scene I have ever seen in a movie. Same for a number of things. The show has kept me guessing from the get go. It’s like nothing else on television and I love it for it.

          We’ve gotten a 20 hour long ‘Evil Dead 4.’ I never though I would see the day. Every hour might not be gold, but there have been some amazing moments. And at it’s “worst,” it’s at least bronze, covered in gore and yes, sometimes poop!

          • Necro

            Just to second your comment, that’s how I’ve always described it to friends of mine that haven’t watched it yet, I tell them it’s like a real long ‘Evil Dead 4’ movie. Agreed!

          • Creepshow

            Yo Nec, you’ve got some splaining to do. You are staunchly not a fan of “horror comedy” (like Shaun of the Dead). Why the love for The Evil Dead?

        • NOCC Monkey

          “We did Evil Dead and had no clue what we were doing, and we made something special. We did Evil Dead 2, we had some money, and knew what we were doing and we did it perfect. We did Army Of Darkness, had a ton of money and we basically ruined the franchise”.

          Isn’t that the truth!

    • Charlie

      Fair enough, however, we haven’t seen Season 3 yet which has an entirely different show runner. Campbell stated that as a result it is a little tonally different and De Lorenzo has also said there will be more emotion and drama involved. DiGregorio’s departure could be a blessing in disguise for folks like yourself. Personally, I love both Evil Dead and Army of Darkness so tonally I’m down for whatever.

    • It’s hardly an odd choice. The franchise has been like this since Evil Dead II. And even the original had bits of humour in it.

  • Creepshow

    I have Starz, and love me some Bruce. But I’m gonna “call a spade a spade”. The show started to wear on me last season. It felt like it was trying too hard, and seemed a little sloppy and all over the place. I started rolling my eyes with all the Ashy Slashy stuff, and I hated the goddamn Muppet. From the start, I always thought this was gonna be a short lived novelty.

    • agreed. Read my post below. The show has potiental, but it’s falling into really poor “Comedy” when we all are here for HORROR!

      • Creepshow

        And now we get a hilariously lame high school mascot. Weeeee!

      • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

        “We all” did not come for horror, stop putting words on other people’s fingers. Did you see Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness? If you did and ytou expected straight horror then honestly you only have yourself to blame.

        • qwef

          Evil Dead 2 only worked because it had serious horror elements in it , the show has 0 horror elements that work. Thus any of the “comedy” doesn’t work also.

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            I disagree. To be honest I find there’s nothing scary about any of them. The first one is a bit creepy at times, but mostly it’s really good entertainment in my book and it still is.

  • Jack Thompson

    We pay for Starz in my house, so it ain’t my fault.

  • WondrousPoop

    Anyone that pirates is a pathetic piece of poop and should eat their poop then drink their diarrhea.

    • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

      Well alright, you make sure Starz is available in my country then.

      • WondrousPoop

        No. Thief.

    • John Connor

      Anyone who opposes piracy is an idiot slave whom will believe anything put out by their evil masters.

      • WondrousPoop

        Just admit you’re a cheap tool.

      • American Atheist

        Why pay for art, when you can just steal it? Are you from China or just a cheap ass dead beat that feels entitled to take creative shit for free?

        • John Connor

          That’s not what’s going on but your words are a nice example of regurgitating what you were taught.

          • American Atheist

            What’s not going on? You feel entitled to steal someone else’s creative work. You’ve made that abundantly clear.

          • John Connor

            There’s nothing stolen.

            The MPAA on the other side is stealing the rights and freedoms of the internet.
            Somehow they can afford to change laws and bully unwilling Internet Service Provider monopolies like Cox into doing their bidding.
            They’re doing this globally.
            Its amazing the money, influence, and power they have for someone that’s supposedly being stolen from and losing all their money.

            If there was any actual stealing or loss of money going on, they would have no money (and consequently no power) and get out of such a “failing” business.
            But they’re stronger than they’ve ever been.

            Did you know they can merely accuse someone of pirating and have them banned from having the internet?
            Terrorists and sex offenders including convicted pedophiles have a right to use the internet but if the MPAA merely ACCUSE you of downloading a Hollywood movie, your household can easily get banned from an internet connection.

      • Cameron Ballanfonte

        So don’t pay for goods and services that you wish to continue. Because people should do everything for you for free.

        • John Connor

          That’s not at all what’s going on.

        • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

          Maybe we should just stop with these blanket statements that start really annoying discussions without a shred of merit?

    • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

      Why can’t they all be classy…like you WondrousPoop?

      • WondrousPoop

        It’s easy, don’t be a thief. Thief.

        • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

          Huh? Who said anything about being a thief? I didn’t pirate anything, I just think you’re a twat

          • WondrousPoop

            Sure, pirate, sure.

  • zero2815

    We got stars for Evil Dead,and we continue to pay monthly for it, then they movie it to fucking feburay. Talk about bullshit, obviously my money doesn’t talk.

    • You’re just one person. It takes the entire fanbase (which obviously includes you) to keep this stuff alive, and we vote with our money. No matter how many great reviews or angry comments fans can leave, at the end of the day, money does the talking.

  • Charlie

    Pretty sweet to be mentioned on Bloody Disgusting. 😀

  • silverfishimperitrix

    The problem with the whole Evil Dead franchise is that it has always appealed to a very small audience. It is the definition of a cult movie and show. It’s never going to be that widely popular, and that’s just fine with me.

    • ChampionOfLight

      Even with that in consideration – I’m not sure this show really has been what those fans have wanted. I mean I know a lot of people that love it… but, honestly, I don’t. I watch it because I loved the films but the show is constantly going further away from the elements I enjoyed in the films.

    • bloodofmyenemies

      I disagree. The Evil Dead franchise has been mainstream horror classics for years now. I can’t think of many horror fans who haven’t seen the film’s.

      • John Connor

        I thought the same thing but (at least in my experience) its still very much not a mainstream franchise.
        The closest thing to mainstream was the fourth installment masquerading as a remake.

        • bloodofmyenemies

          It’s rare for either of the first 2 film’s to not be in pretty much every ‘Best horror films’ list.
          If they’re still cult horror films then they’re the biggest cult horror films of all time. I honestly don’t know many horror fans who haven’t seen them.

          • “Horror fans” inherently are not mainstream historically. It’s a niche genre.

          • bloodofmyenemies

            I said ‘mainstream horror’ for a reason. Within the horror genre Evil Dead isnt a obscure, niche, cult franchise. It has a big following, big enough to warrant sequels, a remake, a tv show, video games, comics and endless dvd and bluray releases.
            Horror isnt niche in any case. There are niche horror subgenres for sure but overall horror is huge.

          • “Within the horror genre Evil Dead isnt a obscure, niche, cult franchise.”

            I agree, but I’m saying, the horror genre itself is inherently niche. By design. It’s exploitation film.

            I think overall horror is always, or historically always at least, fringe. Just like heavy metal or comic books. There are big moments for sure. “IT” being a current one obviously, The Exorcist, The Walking Dead etc. None of the Evil Dead movies ever had MASSIVE success. The remake was the biggest hit and it still was a relatively modestly budgeted movie that did a little more than double it’s budget domestically. The comics, the video games, the toys, all cater towards a loyal, focused fan base.

            Generally, I think fans (at least for me) like it that way.

          • bloodofmyenemies

            I think you want so badly for horror to be underground that youre ignoring just how big horror is.
            Heavy Metal and Comics are MASSIVE. These arent cult or counter culture movements anymore. Whereas horror has always been very popular. Just because every horror film doesnt make millions doesnt mean that the entire genre is ‘fringe’.
            The Evil Dead films werent immediately succesful but their cult followings grew to the point that I wouldnt call them cult films anymore. Kind of like Rocky Horror. Devoted fanbase but the fanbase is far from small. The original Evil Dead is the biggest film of its type and is a horror staple.
            The fanbase has to be big for all of those things to be succesful. Its not like theres only 100,000 Evil Dead fans around the world who buy multiple copies of everything.
            The Evil Dead fanbase is just full of eletists who often favour one of the films and will dismiss anything that is different. Each film has its own rabid fanbase.

          • I don’t want anything badly. I just know what I see based on the info out there. How are you defining “mainstream” and “fringe?”

            Comic books are not massive. Movies based on comic books are massive. Comics consistently struggle. Their biggest moment was in the early 90’s and even then they still paled in comparison to real mainstream entertainment. The average person has zero idea who Ash from Evil Dead is. Maybe you could tell them, ‘remember the guy who was in those Spider-Man movies…he’s got a chainsaw?’ and gen an ‘oooohhh yeah.’

            Horror has come a long way to be sure, but it is still exploitation based by a large majority.

          • bloodofmyenemies

            Your scope of the info out there must be limited.
            How am I defining them? Wow, so patronizing.

            The comic book industry is massive, just like the horror industry is massive. Comic books are selling heaps at the moment in any case.
            Heavy metal is fucking massive.

            Im not talking about the average person. Im talking about the average horror fan. Every single one of them will know who Ash is. To try and tell me that horror has a small audience is way off base.

            Horror has come a long way? Horror has always been big. Just because every subgenre of horror doesnt rake in big bucks doesnt mean the entire genre doesnt.

          • Dude, I wasn’t patronizing, I was just legit curious to your opinion. Was just trying to have a discussion, my mistake.

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            The comic book industry nearly tanked in the 90’s, Marvel almost killed everything and it’s been building itself back up ever since, these days it’s doing fairly okay, some titles way more than others.

          • For sure, late 90’s almost killed comics, as a result of them thinking the success of the early 90’s would never end. I don’t think we will ever see sales like that again. A time and a place.

  • Baron Von Marlon

    I’m gonna buy the blu-rays but I don’t want this show to go on forever.
    Rather have a movie each couple of years.

    • Darren Kerr

      I agree bud…the show is great fun, but don’t drag it out.

    • John Connor

      But each season is a perfectly sized movie.

      Maybe what you really want is just for the seasons to be radically different than the ones before.

      • Baron Von Marlon

        A perfectly sized movie of +-300 minutes?

        So no, I’d want movies. Or shorter seasons.

        • Charlie

          There will be no more movies. At least, not from the original folks. And Fede Alvarez has 2 projects lined up for the next couple of years plus a Don’t Breathe sequel so Evil Dead 2 would be made when? In the mid-2020’s? That is, if some studio doesn’t offer him another franchise or he comes up with another original project of his own.

        • John Connor

          How about 5 one hour episodes per season?

  • Charlie

    All that matters, is that you guys sign the petition. 🙂

  • Steve Moore

    i download this show coz its not on my satelite u have to subscribe to cable but i always buy the blu

    • John Connor

      If they only realize blus are bought because viewers fall in love with the show via piracy.

      • WondrousPoop

        BahahahahahahahahHhH Uh huh. Adorable answer.

  • ReaperMike83

    Could they not try to shop it to a more accessible service like Netflix? I’m sure they would scoop up another wicked cult show to have on their roster and Netflix puts a bunch of money into shows that fans love. Starz isn’t available in all countries.

    • John Connor

      Would Netflix allow the stuff allowed on Starz (anything) ?

      • ReaperMike83

        Do you mean the violence and gore? Because if that’s what you mean then yes Netflix doesn’t water down the content of shows/movies.

        • John Connor

          Tapert and Raimi have a nice relationship with Starz.
          And Starz let’s them do anything they want to her in the sack.
          But now Starz has a new stepdaddy called Lionsgate.
          We’ll see if this new big daddy gets in their way or if he’s into kinky shit and joins them for a foursome.
          That would be a wild season.

          • ReaperMike83

            Lol…. I hope they have no issues on that side of things but it’s a matter of Starz not cancelling the show hopefully they don’t but if it did happen I would personally like Netflix to pick it up so it can keep going.

      • Cameron Ballanfonte

        Have you seen Daredevil?

        • John Connor

          I have seen the first few episodes.
          I figured the answer, I was just wondering for sure.

      • JoeInTheBox

        Netflix lost their streaming rights with Starz. Not sure if Starz owns a piece of the show. If Sam and Rob own 100% of the show, they can do with it as they please if Starz doesn’t renew.

        • John Connor

          I would bet Starz owns rights to all the original aspects of the series like the characters (Pablo, Kelly, Ruby, etc.).

          • JoeInTheBox

            It wouldn’t an Evil Dead if some portion of it was caught up in legal issues haha. I think Sam and Rob only really own Evil Dead 2.

  • ShadowInc

    I hope the show continues for those who like it, but I’ve already opted out.

    • John Connor

      OHHHH GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

    • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

      Sorry about your lack of taste. Good luck with that

      • WondrousPoop

        Troll.

      • qwef

        >You don’t like something that i like = you don’t have a good taste

        Idiot.

        • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

          You don’t like something that’s genuinely good = Lack Of taste, or worse yet, hipster.

          • qwef

            There is nothing “genuinely good” about the show. Only people that watch it are Bruce Campbell/Evil Dead fanboys. And it shows in the raitings which is the reason the show is about to get canceled.

            But keep lying to yourself that you have better taste than others just because you enjoy a show they don’t

          • Jarle Solbakken Fremstad

            It shows in the ratings because it’s only available in the US and Puerto Rico and according to Bruce himself it is very heavily pirated. Gee, Ashy kind of answered your own problems there, huh? Make it available and people will watch it.

          • Josh Blitzenbrox Myers

            Hey, don’t be hating. You’ll acquire good taste too one of these days kid. Hang in there, you’ll get there. Just keep at it. I have faith.

            And the good news is one day, when you are older, and figure it out you can always go back and rewatch all the cool stuff you we’re too jaded to appreciate back when you were a hipster.

            It’s a win win!

    • Charlie

      That’s too bad, man. Really. Maybe give Season 3 a chance just for the hell of it. This series is perfect with a couple of friends and some cold beers.

  • John Connor

    We should be finding out soon whether there’s going to be a fourth season or not, assuming they’d be working the same schedule every year (which is very likely) .
    They write each season in winter, while the show usually airs.
    Which probably means the decision has already been made.

  • Been enjoying it, hope there’s another season. The real trouble is that it’s on Starz. But I’ll download the app for sure. Why not?

    There’s just so much stuff now. People are going to prioritize. The best way to keep the show going is for the creators to make it the best possible show they can so that people want to spend money on it.

  • zombie84_41

    what do I get out of it? Also maybe if networks werent so cocked face we wouldnt be in this.

    • Cameron Ballanfonte

      Ash Vs. Evil Dead to reach the end of its originally planned five year run. You get a complete story out of it.

      • Charlie

        I know, right. What does he expect to get? A congratulatory T-Shirt?

      • zombie84_41

        Thought so.

  • Blade

    It’s hard to justify paying for one channel for a single seasonal show. I didn’t know about the app thing though, that’s cool. I’ll pick up the blu-rays ff it’ll help get at least one more season.

  • American Atheist

    I’ve paid for Starz. The only reason I don’t have Starz now is because Ash isn’t on. If Ash doesn’t come back after S3, I’ll never get Starz again. I bought both seasons 1 and 2 steelbooks. I’ve done as much as I can do.

    I knew something was up when they didn’t announce shit during the end of summer. I don’t buy that shit about TWD and Stranger Things at all. It’s only a half an hour show that could easily be on Monday through Saturday. It doesn’t have to be fucking Sundays. I’m not taking the blame for corporate conglomerates and cheap ass “fans” who are too cheap to pay for (and support) a series that they supposedly like.

    I’ll enjoy S3 because it looks like the writing is on the wall. Thanks Bruce for being part of one the best shows on tv. Farewell, sweet prince.

  • James Jeans

    Starz is already a part of our package, I buy the blu-rays and the soundtracks and the Pop Vinyls and the posters, but we can’t stream video where we live due to data restriction issues so the Starz app is right out. There’s not much else I can do to show support for the show that I haven’t been doing for years.

  • sixfeetdownsouth

    I’m sorry but Ash vs. evil dead is a soap opera and demeans the original films. Sam Raimi knows exactly what he is doing and it all has to do with money.
    That’s why he has only “directed” the pilot of the series.
    It saves his reputation so he can make a new movie if all his other gigs fail.
    He can return to his baby.

    The tv series is crap. It has the gore and the comedy but it lacks the horror and atmosphere the films have (mainly parts 1&2).

    • Why do you think it demeans the original films?

      • Runciter

        I’m more interested in what does he think “soap opera” means.

        • Daniel Robinson

          I’d be waaaaaay more inclined to watch Soap Operas if they were more like AvED

      • sixfeetdownsouth

        It cheapens and demeans it by turning it into a soap opera. 1 was a trip into grueling terror 2 was a horrific roller coaster ride, 3 was a ghoulish action adventure (and a weak entry), Ash v. Evil Dead soap opera drama crap

        • Cool if you don’t like the show of course, but still not sure how it can demean the original films. They still exist the same way. Especially when it sounds like you already don’t love 1/3 of the original films.

    • Cameron Ballanfonte

      Explain this nonsense.

    • Ronault Trowbridge

      Walking Dead is much more of a soap opera!

      • sixfeetdownsouth

        Yes it is

    • SupernaturalCat

      In part, and to an extent, I’d have to agree, in that the tv series, fun(ny) as it may be, in no substantive way attempts to be frightening or elicit suspense and terror …it’s just buckets ‘o gore galore coupled with comical dialogue. Which, if you’re an old ED fan like me (I saw it way back in ’82 or ’83) and never imagined any sort of return to this story(line) post Army of Darkness, it’s still a hoot. I own the blu rays of both seasons, and especially enjoyed the episode that brought back Ellen Sandweiss.

      Anyway, try looking at it this way: even by ED2, Raimi was clearly going for more full-steam ahead, screwball cartoon comedy than he was outright horror. And from there, the horror was ratcheted down to an even further, nearly non-existent degree by the time they did Army of Darkness, which could’ve received a “PG” rating it was so tame and childlike. Don’t get me wrong, I love AOD, but hell, Monty Python’s Holy Grail is a ‘scarier’ movie than AOD is! ha. So that this new series exclusively plays up the ED2 comedy-gore template, minus the scares, doesn’t come as much of a surprise. And after Raimi’s disappointing Drag Me To Hell, I surmise that Raimi has zero interest in, and perhaps isn’t even capable of doing, actual horror anymore.

      • sixfeetdownsouth

        I agree that Sam Raimi is no longer an artist and is just making the movies for money. As much as I am a lover of The Evil Dead, I will pass on the crap that money has turned it in to. They made a ton off me for years.

      • Bingo. It’s a logical progression.

  • Ocelot006 .

    Well I’ve already been doing my part.

  • I support Starz for this show. I signed the petition. I would recommend people to:

    A. Start supporting Starz if you can and are not already doing so.
    B. Spread the word about this partion all over the internet and try to convert some people to support the show.

    • Charlie

      What this man said ^

  • Brad Tyler

    I see they’ve finally come to their senses and are releasing AvED on Bluray in the UK. I already bought the US Season 1 but will be purchasing Season 2 as soon as it’s released next week.

  • Francesco Falciani

    the same is for cult of chucky, everyone wanted a chucky movie but many downloaded it, blade runner was a cult but nobody saw the great sequel…and now this…nobody touch evil dead…but nobody is seeing it…very sad! very sad

  • bigval

    I bought the DVD of season 1 and plan to buy the season 2 one when it comes out here soon.

  • moka57

    “Unfortunately you are not able to purchase STARZ outside the United States or Puerto Rico.”

    • John Connor

      But thanks to sharing, you can watch the show. By the time Starz does come to your country (if you’re into having premium television) you’ll be an established fan that will be more likely to purchase Starz or the blurays or those action figures or that Ashy Slashy puppet or the Ashy Slashy underwear (not currently existing, yet).

  • John Connor

    Pirating Ash Vs Evil Dead should be encouraged.

    You get 20 people, who don’t watch or know of the show, to see it, you create new fans that are now invested and are more likely to follow and purchase the series and any merchandise/future-projects associated with it.

    What would Ash do?
    (You would not know if you do not watch).

    • Kevin Cabral

      No guy, the article clearly says if u want to binge to catch up on the 1st 2 seasons to watch on the app so the network can clearly see people are interested in the show. If u get it illegally then no one knows you watched it so the ratings are still bad enough for the network to say no one is watching this let’s cancel it

      • John Connor

        Oh they know I watched it.
        At least their lawyers do.
        They made that very clear to me.
        So I’ll continue to do that.
        I also bought it on bluray.

        If I didn’t pirate it?
        I would simply continue buying on bluray (cause I’m already a fan of Evil Dead) but wouldn’t watch it until it was completely over (cancelled).
        Cause I only like watching for first time on my computer (ultimate intimacy) (can’t do that with a bluray) and I loathe digital downloads that require downloading horrible intrusive programs that severely limit my viewing options with tons of roadblocks (like not allowing me an actual copy that I’d be paying for but a limited borrowed restricted “copy” on their servers.)

        Bottom line: I was always going to buy it on bluray cause I’m already an Evil Dead fan.
        If this were a series I was unfamiliar with, I would need to pirate first or there would very likely be no future relationship between the show and I.

    • Ocelot006 .

      Pirating should be encouraged? Stop with your bullshit you cheap fuck. It’s out on Blu-Ray. You can digitally purchase each episode for a few bucks. The only excuse now for pirating is being a selfish brat cheap cunt.

      The show is already being highly pirated and obviously it’s doing no help.

      What fascinating delusions you have. “If I encourage 20 people to steal the show maybe, MAYBE one of them will buy a Funko POP! Ash toy at Barnes and Noble. See? I’m helping!”

  • Senna4ever

    I love the show but it needs to end before it gets stale.
    Season one was great, season two was good. Season 3?

    I’d rather see Ash vs Evil Dead go out on a high than have it be dragged out ‘Just because’. I’ll wait until I’ve watched all of the new season before I commit to save the next.

  • Quadriple

    I live in Turkey. That Starz app doesn’t seem to be on GooglePlay Store for me. Starz is not officially here on Turkey either. Searched all the stores for DVD’s and Blu-Ray’s of the show, no results whatsoever. I own DVD versions for Evil Dead and 2 and Army of Darkness and I’m a big fan of the franchise. I really want to watch and support the show but I currently can’t. And I REALLY DON’T want to pirate it. I hope things don’t end up bad for the show :/

    • Charlie

      Hey, don’t worry, fella. I’m sure there is a way you can help. Have you checked Amazon.com to see if you can buy the DVD’s or Blu-Rays on there and have them shipped to your house? If not, share the petition around to other friends of yours who like the series. Sometimes we can only do whats within our means so try for that first.

  • Creepshow

    Got it. Ash is probably everyone’s exception to the rule.

  • gary

    I a sorry but this show needs to end. The first season was great. Season 2 just did the same thing. Allow the story to change, introduce us to new story beats and elements. If you don’t, this happens.

    • Charlie

      In the 3rd Season Ash has a daughter. I’d say that changes things dramatically and opens up new interesting possibilities for storytelling while shifting character dynamics. Also, they said that in the new season they were going to explore the mythology of the Ash J Williams character. After all, he appears in the Necronomicon and it’s not by chance. He was chosen. By whom? How? Well, nobody knows but that also sounds really cool and interesting. So, Season 3 IS introducing new elements and stories. They are bringing back the Knights of The Sumerian Order, Exploring Ash’s Mythology, Introducing To Us His Daughter and more.

    • Mike Darwin

      I thought the asylum episode was the best of the series.

  • Tranny that fucks str8 guys

    Stop using ‘franchise’ incorrectly. Dominoes pizza is a franchise. Anyone can open a dominoes, as long as they use the dominoes system. Franchise.

    Making sequels to a movie or videogame isn’t a franchise it’s a series.

    • The franchise is the whole thing. “Anyone” could make a franchise entry ostensibly, spin off, comic featuring a character, if they went through the specific system as well.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_franchise

    • Azwethinkweiz

      “a general title or concept used for creating or marketing a series of products, typically films or television shows.”- Go back to school kid. Evil Dead is most definitely a franchise.

    • Mike Darwin

      If Dominoes approves you, which means that, no, not just anyone can open a Dominoes. By the same token, anyone can make an Evil Dead movie, tv series, comic book, novel, musical, or action figure, if they have the approval of the ED PTB.

  • Master99

    I love the show. I order starz right before the season starts and cancel right after it ends. I have bought the blu-rays the day they released, and have bought all the neca figures so far. I will continue to support it as long as they keep making it.

  • rocker_15-c

    Well that’s good and all but I’m not from the US and watching the series outside the US is a complete chore, I love the franchise and have only watched like 3 cap tops and can’t find the others to watch legally, sooo there’s that…

  • jsmoltz29

    Petition signed. This show is the only reason I have Stars as part of my cable package. I’ve also bought AvED merch ranging from t-shirts to officially licensed collectables. I absolutely love this show and I sincerely hope that anyone else here that does will sign the petition as well.

  • Nick Botic

    Already have Starz specifically for the show, and haven’t bought a hard copy of anything in a few years but just ordered the Blurays and signed the petition. I was born during a time (1989) where I couldn’t appreciate any new (original) Evil Dead for how great it truly is, so I was thrilled when the remake came out (which I fucking loved, in that it wasn’t the same type of film as the originals), and was all the more excited when the series started. Evil Dead is hands down my favorite horror franchise and I’ll do anything to ensure it continues!

  • Sky Commander

    Well I bought each season on DVD so far so I’ve done my part

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