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[Interview] Tom Six Reflects On 10 Years of ‘The Human Centipede’ and Teases Future ‘Centipede’ Projects
It is surreal that the first Human Centipede is celebrating its 10th anniversary this year. I vividly remember hearing about the film for the first time back in 2009, talking with friends about its brutal new take on body horror. When we finally saw the film, we couldn’t get over the grossness of it all; from shock chuckles to our churning stomachs, the Human Centipede made for an experience that engaged with all our senses.
Since its release, the film has become a gem of pop culture; from numerous parodies and tributes, Human Centipede became a game changer in the world of body horror. While we’d become used to shocking films for years beforehand, the Human Centipede established a sincerely uncomfortable atmosphere, offering intense, unnerving horror.
In honor of the film’s anniversary, I had the chance to interview Human Centipede’s writer/director Tom Six, asking about the film’s impact and his feelings regarding its creative process.
Michael Pementel: Over the years, how has it felt seeing fans and critics react to the Human Centipede?
Tom Six: “When you make a film trilogy that really has spread over the whole world like an aggressive virus, having almost the whole youth world population at least know about them, [that] makes little Tom proudly stand erect and salute. When your films become pop culture and [you] see all the famous references, strong audience reactions, great film critics and crying film critics, tattoos, spoofs, celebrity fans, etc. – [that] is the ultimate indie filmmaker’s dream!”
MP: How did you think people would react to the first film? Were reactions different than what you expected?
TS: “When I was writing the first pede [sic] I already knew I had something “special.” But when I was shooting the first pede’s “feed her!” scene, lightning struck, and I knew I had something “spectacular.” And what I thought would happen thankfully happened: people loved it or hated it. There was nothing in between. Like all art should be. Funny [thing] is, there are a lot of people that absolutely didn’t believe in the pedes; financiers, actors, companies, film crew, distributors, etc. heavily detested the idea. Now they all are crying in their little beds.”
MP: Considering your filmmaking inspirations – How did you want Human Centipede to push the boundaries of “shock” cinema?
TS: “I am all about creating original work and pushing boundaries of art/film. I hate mediocre shit. It’s great to have raised the bar but not just to shock for the shock. I’m the guy that travels the seven seas while others stay safely on shore. And I salute the very few fellow filmmakers who have and do the same because I know how hard it is, especially now in our politically correct times.”
MP: During the production of Human Centipede and upon its release – Did you ever imagine the film to have such a cultural impact on cinema and horror?
TS: “Like I said, I always knew I had something “special,” something that would make a massive impact. I love to light up a cigar and say: ‘I love it when a plan comes together…’ and I’m very grateful for all the loyal fans, haters, and partners in crime that believed in it that made it so huge.”
MP: Looking back on the creation of Human Centipede – What was the most rewarding part of the filmmaking? If there is anything you would change, what would it be? Or why wouldn’t you change anything?
TS: “I would absolutely not change a single frame! My writing and filming were totally free of any self-censorship. Even when I knew turning the whole thing into a reality would become extremely difficult and challenging because making this kind of cinema is no walk in the park. The biggest reward is being a little independent filmmaker from, of all places, Holland, totally doing everything with Ilona (my sister and partner in crime) ourselves; and that the whole world and generations to come knows about your films and who you are.”
MP: After these ten years since the film’s debut – How would you sum up your feelings regarding the film and your experience since as an artist?
TS: “These films are my brain-babies and I am a very proud daddy. With the movies, all my depraved dreams came true, and now I have many more original and depraved film scripts in the works. The world has not seen the last of this humble filmdictator [sic].”
MP: Is there anything else we can look forward to in the future regarding Human Centipede?
TS: “This year we will release a graphic novel of the first Human Centipede to celebrate its 10th anniversary. I also have a Human Caterpillar script I’m working on (see the death row prisoners in Pede three). And in a way or form, the Human Centipede concept might come back in some of my future films.”
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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.



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