Interviews
‘X’ Director Ti West on Tricky Alligators and Capturing Period Authenticity [Interview]
This interview contains some spoilers for X.
Ti West’s X, out in theaters now, unleashes a full-throttle, savage throwback slasher with surprising humor (my review).
Shortly after the film’s SXSW premiere, Bloody Disgusting chatted with West about his covert love letter to filmmaking and the planned trilogy. As West explains in the second part of our interview, his adoration for filmmaking once again resulted in a commitment to practical effects, leading to some memorably gnarly kills in the A24 slasher.
One of the most surprising involves a killer alligator.
The alligator first shows up in an intense scene with Maxine (Mia Goth) taking a leisure swim, unaware the massive predator is stalking her. It’s foreshadowing, of course, for later. Bringing that alligator to life wasn’t easy.
West explained, “We had three different alligators. We had half of an alligator from the middle to the head; a puppeteered, mostly foam-type thing. Then we had a fiberglass one that was the bottom half of the alligator, its back half, that could be on two pulleys and be towed. It had a tail that would go on a mechanism. We had the tail by itself, and we may have had one other head. I can’t remember. But it was a hassle. It was like the stories from Jaws. The same stories.”

When asked about his approach to designing the kills, West answered, “It was a mixture of craft and narrative. The movie’s narrative sometimes required an amusingly hypocritical moment, or there’s an irony to how things are playing out for somebody. The first kill, for instance, was meant to say, ‘Okay, you are now entering the movie that you originally came for, whether you like it or not.’ Hopefully, you’re a little bit reluctant to go there. I wanted to make a statement with that. I also wanted to let you know that this character you’d been thinking one thing about is now a whole different element in the movie. From a craft standpoint, the things that happen and the stylistic changes throughout that sequence deal with diegetic sound, non-diegetic sound, lighting changes, and things like that. It was meant to be like, ‘Whoa, here we go.'”
Like the filmmaker did with ’80s-set The House of the Devil, X captures the era without falling into nostalgia-induced pastiche.
“I think that you want to put the audience in the environment, and people have a nostalgia for that time period. I have a nostalgia for that period. But there’s a difference between having, let’s say, a nostalgia for a time period and a nostalgia for media of the time period. When things are nostalgic of media, they tend to have a more spoofy, too in-your-face pastiche.
“I remember when we made House of the Devil, I was always saying, ‘This is brown and tan furniture eighties, not video killed the radio star eighties.’ It’s the stuff you have in the seventies that you haven’t bought new stuff yet because that’s what it was like for me. When I think of my house growing up, we didn’t have whatever the newest commercial thing. If I were nostalgic for media, I’d focus on whatever the brand-new fashions of that time would be. We were always a few years behind because I was not up on the times. So, setting this movie in the seventies, it’s the same thing. It’s trying to show you those things that you remember from your life, not necessarily what you remember from movies and commercials and things like that.”
Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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