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Podcaster Em Schulz Talks Favorite Paranormal Locations and New Book ‘A Haunted Road Atlas’ [DEAD Time]

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Welcome back to DEAD Time! This month, I got spooky with a new book about taking a haunted road trip and talked to one of the authors about their experiences with the paranormal. Em Schulz and Christine Schiefer are the hosts of the wildly popular, award-winning, true crime/paranormal podcast And That’s Why We Drink. They are releasing their first book, A Haunted Road Atlas, which is filled with travel tips, beverage recommendations, haunted locations, and more. The guide also includes some of the country’s most notorious crime scenes and paranormal locations.

I was excited to have the opportunity to speak with co-author Em Schulz about their experiences with the supernatural, their favorite true crime/paranormal locations, A Haunted Road Atlas, and more. Em is a member of The Ghost Club, the Society of Psychical Research, the Parapsychological Association, and the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON).

Read on for my full interview with Em Schulz!


Bloody Disgusting: You and Christine Schiefer have an award-winning podcast called And That’s Why We Drink and the two of you are releasing your first book on May 31st, called A Haunted Road Atlas. How did you become involved with the paranormal and can you talk a little bit about your experiences as a paranormal investigator?

Em Schulz: I’ve been interested in ghosts since I was a little kid. When I was seven, my grandfather passed and about a week after he passed, everyone in the family started having their own weird, independent experiences. My cousin had an experience a week after he died where she got a picture of him when he obviously shouldn’t have been there. My mom was seeing him in her dreams. When I was asleep in the middle of the night, I woke up to him sitting on the bed, and just kind of petting leg and smiling at me. The next day, I told my mom, “I’m going to grow up and be a ghost hunter,“ which weirdly, worked out. I think my mom was expecting that to not happen [laughs]. Growing up, I was really interested in anything spooky; I always wanted to go to haunted houses, or buildings, or do ghost tours when we were traveling.

When I got to college, I ended up becoming a ghost tour guide, which kind of was a pseudo-paranormal investigator start to my career. I was working in a museum across the street from this one building, and I went in there to ask if it was haunted. And I guess they thought I was asking for a job. I don’t know how they came to that conclusion because I just wanted to know some general ghost stuff on my lunch break, and I guess they read it as I was looking to start working for them. They did ghost tours and saw that I was interested and told me to come back Friday night and they paid me twenty bucks after the ghost tour. After that, each of my weekends during college was spent doing ghost tours with them, doing some set up with equipment beforehand, and doing my own little ghost hunts before our guests got there. Through that I got into the real ghost hunting world and then I did some volunteer groups as I moved around. I ended up in Boston for a while and did a volunteer group there, where I would investigate. That’s kind of how I broke into the world [laughs].

BD: Through your podcast, you have covered hundreds of cases involving everything from hauntings to alien abductions, and cryptids. Can you share your most unnerving paranormal experience or the scariest case you have investigated?

ES: When I was working as a ghost tour guide, I had some really scary experiences. I remember being upstairs by myself in an attic setting everything up before we had our guests come in. I had already turned the equipment on, and I was doing my own little ghost hunting stuff, since I had some time to kill. All of the sudden, I saw this big mass of solid black; you couldn’t see through it. It was like a shadow, and I heard a growl. I don’t really remember anything else. I don’t remember it coming near me or anything, but all of the sudden my hand started hurting and I had a big scratch on my hand for a while. That was really the only time I’ve been scratched by something or touched by something.

There was another time I was staying at a friend’s house, and she always said that the place seemed haunted, but she didn’t have any real proof. I was lying in bed, and I swear I felt something grab my butt [laughs]. It was like something cupped by butt while I was sleeping. I was sharing a bed and she was one of my childhood friends, so I thought she was trying to make a joke or something. So, I said, “Haha, very funny,” and when I looked over, she hadn’t even gotten in bed yet. There was an imprint on the blanket like someone had grabbed me. About two weeks later when she was moving out, she moved some of the furniture that had been in the building when she moved in, and there was a whole decomposition stain. So, it was kind of her final proof that someone had died in the building, and it was haunted.

BD: As I mentioned earlier, you and Christine have written your first book, A Haunted Road Atlas. The book is a guide to some of the country’s most infamous crime scenes and hauntings, and also includes recommendations for bars, restaurants, oddity museums, travel tips, and a lot more cool stuff! Out of all the locations in the book, do you have a favorite haunted location and a favorite crime scene and why?

ES: For a crime scene, it would also be a paranormal location because we write about the Cecil Hotel, which is huge in Los Angeles. I feel like a lot of people in the paranormal are aware of the Cecil Hotel, especially if you live near it. I would say it’s my favorite true crime and paranormal spot if I’m combing them, just because so much history happened there. It’s probably riddled with energy. But in terms of just paranormal, I actually haven’t been before. I actually discovered the location while I was writing this book and had never heard of it before.

Near Cincinnati, Ohio, there is a place called the Sedamsville Rectory and I’d never heard of it, but, wow, that is a scary place! I don’t know too much about its history, all I know is that while there were a few priests living there, they all seemed to have checkered pasts. There was one priest who was known for assaulting children, so there is a lot of negative energy there. One of the current owners is regularly getting possessed in the building. They’ve done a bunch of guest spots on television to talk about it and the owners are aware of what’s going on. It’s super spooky. As of the last time I checked, I think they were trying to turn it into an Airbnb. It works out pretty well if you’re into morbid tourism. That is a place I’m very interested in, but also never want to go to [laughs].

BD: A Haunted Road Atlas will be out on May 31st. Where can people buy it and are you working on anything new involving the paranormal?

ES: There are a few bookstores we’re going to do some book signings. We’re doing one in Cincinnati, we’re doing one in Boston. You can buy it online and my personal favorite is that it will be in Boston at The Strand. Boston is me and Christine’s combined hometown because that is where we met, so it’s a special city to us. As far as working on other projects, we don’t have anything in works right now in terms of books, but I guess it depends on how much people like this book. We’re definitely open to writing more. Maybe in the future this will be a series.

You can pick up your copy of A Haunted Road Atlas right now!

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‘Immaculate’ – A Companion Watch Guide to the Religious Horror Movie and Its Cinematic Influences

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Pictured: 'The Devils' 1971

The religious horror movie Immaculate, starring Sydney Sweeney and directed by Michael Mohan, wears its horror influences on its sleeves. NEON’s new horror movie is now available on Digital and PVOD, making it easier to catch up with the buzzy title. If you’ve already seen Immaculate, this companion watch guide highlights horror movies to pair with it.

Sweeney stars in Immaculate as Cecilia, a woman of devout faith who is offered a fulfilling new role at an illustrious Italian convent. Cecilia’s warm welcome to the picture-perfect Italian countryside gets derailed soon enough when she discovers she’s become pregnant and realizes the convent harbors disturbing secrets.

From Will Bates’ gothic score to the filming locations and even shot compositions, Immaculate owes a lot to its cinematic influences. Mohan pulls from more than just religious horror, though. While Immaculate pays tribute to the classics, the horror movie surprises for the way it leans so heavily into Italian horror and New French Extremity. Let’s dig into many of the film’s most prominent horror influences with a companion watch guide.

Warning: Immaculate spoilers ahead.


Rosemary’s Baby

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The mother of all pregnancy horror movies introduces Rosemary Woodhouse (Mia Farrow), an eager-to-please housewife who’s supportive of her husband, Guy, and thrilled he landed them a spot in the coveted Bramford apartment building. Guy proposes a romantic evening, which gives way to a hallucinogenic nightmare scenario that leaves Rosemary confused and pregnant. Rosemary’s suspicions and paranoia mount as she’s gaslit by everyone around her, all attempting to distract her from her deeply abnormal pregnancy. While Cecilia follows a similar emotional journey to Rosemary, from the confusion over her baby’s conception to being gaslit by those who claim to have her best interests in mind, Immaculate inverts the iconic final frame of Rosemary’s Baby to great effect.


The Exorcist

Dick Smith makeup The Exorcist

William Friedkin’s horror classic shook audiences to their core upon release in the ’70s, largely for its shocking imagery. A grim battle over faith is waged between demon Pazuzu and priests Damien Karras (Jason Miller) and Lankester Merrin (Max von Sydow). The battleground happens to be a 12-year-old, Regan MacNeil (Linda Blair), whose possessed form commits blasphemy often, including violently masturbating with a crucifix. Yet Friedkin captures the horrifying events with stunning cinematography; the emotional complexity and shot composition lend elegance to a film that counterbalances the horror. That balance between transgressive imagery and artful form permeates Immaculate as well.


Suspiria

Suspiria

Jessica Harper stars as Suzy Bannion, an American newcomer at a prestigious dance academy in Germany who uncovers a supernatural conspiracy amid a series of grisly murders. It’s a dance academy so disciplined in its art form that its students and faculty live their full time, spending nearly every waking hour there, including built-in meals and scheduled bedtimes. Like Suzy Bannion, Cecilia is a novitiate committed to learning her chosen trade, so much so that she travels to a foreign country to continue her training. Also, like Suzy, Cecilia quickly realizes the pristine façade of her new setting belies sinister secrets that mean her harm. 


What Have You Done to Solange?

What Have You Done to Solange

This 1972 Italian horror film follows a college professor who gets embroiled in a bizarre series of murders when his mistress, a student, witnesses one taking place. The professor starts his own investigation to discover what happened to the young woman, Solange. Sex, murder, and religion course through this Giallo’s veins, which features I Spit on Your Grave’s Camille Keaton as Solange. Immaculate director Michael Mohan revealed to The Wrap that he emulated director Massimo Dallamano’s techniques, particularly in a key scene that sees Cecilia alone in a crowded room of male superiors, all interrogating her on her immaculate status.


The Red Queen Kills Seven Times

The Red Queen Kills Seven Times

In this Giallo, two sisters inherit their family’s castle that’s also cursed. When a dark-haired, red-robed woman begins killing people around them, the sisters begin to wonder if the castle’s mysterious curse has resurfaced. Director Emilio Miraglia infuses his Giallo with vibrant style, with the titular Red Queen instantly eye-catching in design. While the killer’s design and use of red no doubt played an influential role in some of Immaculate’s nightmare imagery, its biggest inspiration in Mohan’s film is its score. Immaculate pays tribute to The Red Queen Kills Seven Times through specific music cues.


The Vanishing

The Vanishing

Rex’s life is irrevocably changed when the love of his life is abducted from a rest stop. Three years later, he begins receiving letters from his girlfriend’s abductor. Director George Sluizer infuses his simple premise with bone-chilling dread and psychological terror as the kidnapper toys with Red. It builds to a harrowing finale you won’t forget; and neither did Mohan, who cited The Vanishing as an influence on Immaculate. Likely for its surprise closing moments, but mostly for the way Sluizer filmed from inside a coffin. 


The Other Hell

The Other Hell

This nunsploitation film begins where Immaculate ends: in the catacombs of a convent that leads to an underground laboratory. The Other Hell sees a priest investigating the seemingly paranormal activity surrounding the convent as possessed nuns get violent toward others. But is this a case of the Devil or simply nuns run amok? Immaculate opts to ground its horrors in reality, where The Other Hell leans into the supernatural, but the surprise lab setting beneath the holy grounds evokes the same sense of blasphemous shock. 


Inside

Inside 2007

During Immaculate‘s freakout climax, Cecilia sets the underground lab on fire with Father Sal Tedeschi (Álvaro Morte) locked inside. He manages to escape, though badly burned, and chases Cecilia through the catacombs. When Father Tedeschi catches Cecilia, he attempts to cut her baby out of her womb, and the stark imagery instantly calls Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Maury’s seminal French horror movie to mind. Like Tedeschi, Inside’s La Femme (Béatrice Dalle) will stop at nothing to get the baby, badly burned and all. 


Burial Ground

Burial Ground creepy kid

At first glance, this Italian zombie movie bears little resemblance to Immaculate. The plot sees an eclectic group forced to band together against a wave of undead, offering no shortage of zombie gore and wild character quirks. What connects them is the setting; both employed the Villa Parisi as a filming location. The Villa Parisi happens to be a prominent filming spot for Italian horror; also pair the new horror movie with Mario Bava’s A Bay of Blood or Blood for Dracula for additional boundary-pushing horror titles shot at the Villa Parisi.


The Devils

The Devils 1971 religious horror

The Devils was always intended to be incendiary. Horror, at its most depraved and sadistic, tends to make casual viewers uncomfortable. Ken Russell’s 1971 epic takes it to a whole new squeamish level with its nightmarish visuals steeped in some historical accuracy. There are the horror classics, like The Exorcist, and there are definitive transgressive horror cult classics. The Devils falls squarely in the latter, and Russell’s fearlessness in exploring taboos and wielding unholy imagery inspired Mohan’s approach to the escalating horror in Immaculate

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