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‘There’s Something Wrong With the Children’ – Roxanne Benjamin Talks Evil Kid Subversion and Script Changes [Interview]

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There's Something Wrong with the Children

Up next from the ongoing collaboration between Blumhouse and EPIX is There’s Something Wrong with the Children, directed by Roxanne Benjamin (V/H/S, Southbound) and coming to Digital and On Demand outlets on Tuesday, January 17, 2023.

Benjamin’s new movie will later be hitting MGM+ on March 17, 2023.

In the film, Margaret (Alisha Wainwright) and Ben (Zach Gilford) take a weekend trip with friends Ellie (Amanda Crew) and Thomas (Carlos Santos) and their two young children. Ben begins to suspect something sinister is afoot when the kids behave strangely after disappearing into the woods overnight. If only anyone would believe him.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Roxanne Benjamin about her latest, where she broke down the script changes, influences, and whether being entrenched in horror makes it easier or more challenging to subvert expectations in a familiar subgenre.

For starters, There’s Something Wrong with the Children opens with a stylish title sequence, which Benjamin attributes primarily to her love of Stephen King.

When asked about the title card and overall influences, the filmmaker answered, “Just across the board, Stephen King, and for the aesthetic of the titles when they pop up. But for the slow-mo running around stuff that happens at the beginning with the Sisters of Mercy song; that’s all What Have You Done to Solange?, where she’s riding around on the bike. It’s all in orange, and green was such a big color for this movie for me. Between the woods, the kids, their eyes, and all the stuff that happens using that color was very much a thematic thing for me. So, washing everything in that color in the beginning and showing the kids seemingly innocent throughout that title sequence was a fun thing that they let me get away with.”

The film takes place within the neighboring cabins and surrounding woods, but nearby ruins provide a source of horror. It turns out that the ruins weren’t initially part of the script but a necessary change from a production standpoint, as Benjamin explained to us.

The filmmaker chronicled the changes, “It didn’t start as them finding an old building. It’s them coming upon a big vista and a ravine. The movie was called The Ravine, and that’s what it was in the script, but Louisiana’s a delta, so no ravines in Louisiana, where Blumhouse shoots the series. That was a big change from the script where it was like, ‘What do we make this then since there isn’t that?’ The largest peak in Louisiana is right up by the border, and I think it’s 600 feet.

“We couldn’t go that far. We couldn’t go more than 30 minutes from New Orleans. So, one thing they have around there are these old forts. Fort McComb is one that’s been used in actually a lot of horror movies. But I shot it to disguise what it was and maybe make it seem a little bit different than we had seen it before in other horror movies. The stonework that leads up to the edge of the big hole into the earth is all built, and then the whole ridge around it is all built too. Then the rest of it is all green screen and VFX. It was trying to find something that would suit the story needs, but also that was available to us.

Did the shift from ravine to ruins alter any of the story’s mythology?

“I think I had to change a lot of the mythology because of it being this pit and it being ruins throughout the story, to fit within that and what was happening with the kids. It was all DNA that was in the script. It was just tweaking it to fit with what we had, which usually happens in production anyway,” Benjamin detailed. “Then also, the way it was written, it’s written to a specific type of location in that houses were farther apart through the woods. There was a lake in the script. There are a bunch of different scenes that happened in the car. There was no garage. It’s all stuff that we had to figure out with what we had.

“This fit that bill, and I think it worked out to our advantage because both the houses are within complete view of each other, and there’s one shared yard between them. I think that helped us out and helped the story out a bit. I had a cabin I went to all the time growing up where my uncle and my family were always, and it was my uncle’s cabin. They had The Far Side driftwood sign above it. I worked that into the story too. The Far Side is the one cabin, then the other; I don’t know if you see it on there, but it says, ‘The Farther Side.’ It’s just a really dumb dad joke that I find hilarious. I try to work those into my horror movies.

Benjamin’s latest suggests a conventional evil child horror movie, but it winds up subverting the formula through perspective shifts and unique mythology. Benjamin reflected when asked if working in the genre space and being a fan for so long makes it easier or more challenging to surprise fellow horror fans.

“I don’t know,” she answered, “That’s a really good question. Most evil kid movies are trying to solve the problem, which this one doesn’t do. Or it’s just a full gaslighting of, usually, the female character who’s dealing with this specific situation. It always feels like a supernatural entity that’s trying to be solved. A lot of them, even going from evil kid movies into teenage girl possession movies, always focuses on, ‘What do we do about this?’ in a way that this one doesn’t.

“It’s almost like it’s its own thing where it’s not trying to do anything about it so much. By the time you realize, ‘oh shit, he’s right,’ it’s too late. Then we’re just into, How do we get out of here? How do we get away from this with our lives?

“I’m a big fan of Village of the Damned, but that one’s obviously very much spelled out. And The Good SonThe Good Son’s a better one to think of in terms of this because you’ve got one character who sees someone for who they are, and no one else sees it, and no one else believes them until it’s too late. That’s a similar DNA. But knowing so much horror helps in terms of knowing what’s come before. Are you paying homage to any parts of that, or are you trying to subvert any part of that? The things I’m trying to subvert are just the gaslighting of the female character being flipped on its head. That’s the main one.”

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.

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“Chucky” – Devon Sawa & Don Mancini Discuss That Ultra-Bloody Homage to ‘The Shining’

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Only one episode remains in Season 3 of “Chucky,” and what a bloody road it’s been so far, especially for actor Devon Sawa. The actor has now officially died twice on screen this season, pulling double duty as President James Collins and body double Randall Jenkins.

If you thought Chucky’s ruthless eye-gouging of the President was bloody, this week’s Episode 7 traps Randall Jenkins in an elevator that feels straight out of an iconic horror classic.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with series creator Don Mancini and actor Devon Sawa about that ultra-bloody death sequence and how the actor inspires Mancini’s writing on the series. 

Mancini explains, “Devon’s a bit of a muse. Idle Hands and Final Destination is where my Devon Sawa fandom started, like a lot of people; although yours may have started with CasperI was a bit too old for that. But it’s really just about how I love writing for actors that I respect and then know. So, it’s like having worked with Devon for three years now, I’m just always thinking, ‘Oh, what would be a fun thing to throw his way that would be unexpected and different that he hasn’t done?’ That’s really what motivates me.”

For Sawa, “Chucky is an actor’s dream in that the series gives him not one but multiple roles to sink his teeth into, often within the same season. But the actor is also a huge horror fan, and Season 3: Part 2 gives him the opportunity to pay homage to a classic: Kubrick’s The Shining.

Devon Sawa trapped in elevator in "Chucky"

CHUCKY — “There Will Be Blood” Episode 307 — Pictured in this screengrab: (l-r) Devon Sawa as President James Collins, K.C. Collins as Coop — (Photo by: SYFY)

“Collectively, it’s just amazing to put on the different outfits, to do the hair differently, to get different types of dialogue, Sawa says of working on the series. “The elevator scene, it’s like being a kid again. I was up to my eyeballs in blood, and it felt very Kubrick. Everybody there was having such a good time, and we were all doing this cool horror stuff, and it felt amazing. It really was a good day.”

Sawa elaborates on being submerged in so much blood, “It was uncomfortable, cold, and sticky, and it got in my ears and my nose. But it was well worth it. I didn’t complain once. I was like, ‘This is why I do what I do, to do scenes like this, the scenes that I grew up watching on VHS cassette, and now we’re doing it in HD, and it’s all so cool.

It’s always the characters and the actors behind them that matter most to Mancini, even when he delights in coming up with inventive kills and incorporating horror references. And he’s killed Devon Sawa’s characters often. Could future seasons top the record of on-screen Sawa deaths?

“Well, I guess we did it twice in season one and once in season two, Mancini counts. “So yeah, I guess I would have to up the ante next season. I’ll really be juggling a lot of falls. But I think it’s hopefully as much about quality as quantity. I want to give him a good role that he’s going to enjoy sinking his teeth into as an actor. It’s not just about the deaths.”

Sawa adds, “Don’s never really talked about how many times could we kill you. He’s always talking about, ‘How can I make this death better,’ and that’s what I think excites him is how he can top each death. The electricity, to me blowing up to, obviously in this season, the eyes and with the elevator, which was my favorite one to shoot. So if it goes on, we’ll see if he could top the deaths.”

Devon Sawa as dead President James Collins in Chucky season three

CHUCKY — “Death Becomes Her” Episode 305 — Pictured in this screengrab: Devon Sawa as James Collins — (Photo by: SYFY)

The actor has played a handful of distinctly different characters since the series launch, each one meeting a grisly end thanks to Chucky. And Season 3 gave Sawa his favorite characters yet.

“I would say the second one was a lot of fun to shoot, the actor says of Randall Jenkins. “The President was great. I liked playing the President. He was the most grounded, I hope, of all the characters. I did like playing him a lot.” Mancini adds, “He’s grounded, but he’s also really traumatized, and I thought you did that really well, too.”

The series creator also reveals a surprise correlation between President James Collins’ character arc and a ’90s horror favorite.

I saw Devon’s role as the president in Season 3; he’s very Kennedy-esque, Mancini explains. “But then given the supernatural plot turns that happen, to me, the analogy is Michelle Pfeiffer in What Lies Beneath, the character that is seeing these weird little things happening around the house that is starting to screw with his sanity and he starts to insist, ‘I’m seeing a ghost, and his spouse thinks he’s nuts. So I always like that. That’s Michelle Pfeiffer in What Lies Beneathwhich is a movie I love.”

The finale of  “Chucky” Season 3: Part 2 airs Wednesday, May 1 on USA & SYFY.

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