Interviews
‘Blackout’ Filmmaker Larry Fessenden Previews Unique Werewolf Movie and Teases Potential Monster Mashup [Interview]
Filmmaker and horror stalwart Larry Fessenden has dedicated an extensive career to independent horror. Fessenden continues to deliver unique interpretations of familiar movie monsters, from the vampiric Habit to a modern Frankenstein retelling with 2019’s Depraved. His latest, Blackout, brings a contemporary horror drama centered around a Wolfman.
Blackout, which just debuted at Fantasia International Film Festival (our review), follows small town artist Charley (Alex Hurt), a tortured man whose drinking binges blur with his sneaking suspicion that he might likely be a werewolf.
After the film’s premiere, Bloody Disgusting spoke with the multi-hyphenate writer/director/editor/producer about his love of monsters, his old-fashioned werewolf, and what he’d love to tackle next.
Blackout may be modern in storytelling, but its werewolf harkens back to the bipedal Wolfmen of the ’30s and ’40s. That was always Fessenden’s vision.
He explains his werewolf design, “Ever since I was little, that’s how I would draw a werewolf. That’s how I think of it. I mean, the truth is, I would defend myself by saying it’s a wolfman. That’s what I’m really doing. In fact, in the movie, they keep saying Hombre Lobo. That means wolfman. It doesn’t really, I don’t know what the word for werewolf is, but it’s a specific thing, and that’s my new way of talking about it. But the fact is that that’s just the aesthetic I always liked.”

Fessenden continues, “Of course, it was thrilling in the ’80s to see An American Werewolf in London and The Howling, and everything since. But I was a little old-fashioned about it. It was like, ‘Well, okay, guys, I know you can do that with the makeup, and you’re making special effects advances. But I actually liked the other werewolf better.’ So, that was always in the cards. I’ve often referenced in these talks that Werewolf By Night is a comic book that was very influential to me. That’s from the ’70s and, ironically, from Marvel, which has ruined cinema. But they did have a really cool sideline of monster comics, which I loved, and many of them were drawn by Mike Ploog, who I just responded to his way of doing the physicality. And it’s so beautiful what Alex Hurt brought to that because I almost have a Mike Ploog werewolf in a couple of frames, and it makes me happy.”
Charley may struggle with his animalistic impulses, but Blackout is frequently more interested in how his rampaging inner wolf affects his small town.
“When you’re thinking about a werewolf, part of the question is how would it affect a community?” Fessenden explains. “Because it’s not just their drama. I wanted it to be a portrait of a community that, unfortunately, is very vulnerable to division. I feel like this is the story in America right now. We’re literally ripe to turn on each other, and any number of bad actors can affect the conversation and seize on something that’s happening and use it for their own good. So, there’s this element of propaganda and misinformation that we’re all suffering from in the current environment. It’s not that I’m trying to make propaganda films, but I want to explore where we are in society as I enjoy these older, deeper myths about duality, our relationship to nature, and guilt and every other thing hopefully that is implied by these stories, which I didn’t invent. I’m just hopping on board, giving my two cents, and trying to find truth in these old tales. It’s an odd activity because I’m working with certain modern mythologies.”

From this journeyman film that drifts in and out of these characters’ lives comes an unexpected but welcome sense of absurd humor. How much of that humor comes from Fessenden as a person versus tenured experience, instinctually knowing where to add levity to a dramatic horror film?
Fessenden answers, “I really appreciate the question because most people who know me, I’m such a silly person, they say, ‘Why aren’t you making comedies?’ And it’s because I feel so sad and hurt by the way the world is. But ultimately, I see life as absurd, and people are funny, and they say contradictory things. Human relations have all these microaggressions that hopefully are funny for an audience because they can recognize them. When you’re in it, it’s not as fun. You’re like, ‘Oh, they hurt my feelings.’ But when you see two people talking, my favorite is seeing the cops, and the guy just always has to put the woman down. She says, ‘I had this idea.’ He’s immediately, ‘Oh boy, what’s it going to be?’ And you’re yelling, ‘Oh my God, dude.’ But these things are in life, and you know, you could get outraged by them. But as an observer, you can be amused by them and say, ‘God, isn’t that just the way people interact?’
“I think of life as just endless power struggles and like endless little, tiny people envying other people, and the way they comment and interact is actually what interests me as much as telling stories of werewolves. Hopefully, I mean, I don’t know, I have my place in the genre. I would like to think that that’s refreshing to see that. I don’t think that’s what every horror viewer is looking for, but that’s what I have to offer. And I’m so appreciative that you noticed it because I think the movie’s funny.”

With Fessenden having tackled vampires, Frankenstein’s monster, and now the werewolf, could we see a potential creature from a certain lagoon in his future?
“First of all, I’m going to get sued by Universal eventually,” the filmmaker cracks. “No, and thank God you said the Creature, at least you said the Creature. Everybody asks if I’m going to make a mummy movie. And I’m like, ‘What are you talking about? Why would you ever make a mummy movie?’ Even though apparently George Romero wanted to make a mummy movie, which bless his soul. Okay, George. And if you ever see a movie called Diary of the Dead, it’s found footage in the beginning. I am actually very fond of that. It’s a late zombie movie, but the beginning is an independent crew making a fucking mummy movie. So, whatever about that.
“No, what I’m more interested in, I could just say this, is doing a mashup, and that would probably end my business of recreating the Universal Monsters. I want to see them all together, and what would that look like? So, that’s actually what I’m thinking about, and I don’t know who would finance that.
“I got to get on with it because everybody’s getting older. We’ll see what happens.”

Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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