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How ‘Destroy All Neighbors’ Brings Its Characters to Life Through Comedy and Practical Effects [Interview]

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Destroy All Neighbors Alex Winter Jonah Ray Rodrigues

Actors Alex Winter (Freaked, Lost Boys) and Jonah Ray Rodrigues (Satanic Hispanics, Pooka Lives!) face off as new neighbors in Shudder’s splatter-comedy Destroy All Neighbors, and it’s safe to say that the confrontation escalates to a lethal, gory degree.

In Destroy All Neighbors, Rodrigues stars as William Brown, a neurotic, self-absorbed musician easily distracted from his prog-rock ambitions by an apartment building full of eclectic neighbors. That includes the noisy and grotesque Vlad (Winter), who just moved in next door. When an accidental murder ensues, William’s unwitting reign of terror causes victims to pile up and become undead corpses that further derail his journey toward prog-rock Valhalla.

Contracted: Phase II’s Josh Forbes directed Destroy All Neighbors from a screenplay by Charles Pieper and Jared Logan, with story by Pieper and Mike Benner, and the splatter-comedy arrives on Shudder on January 12, 2024.

Ahead of its debut, Bloody Disgusting spoke with director Josh Forbes and stars Alex Winter and Jonah Ray Rodrigues about practical effects and bringing the lively characters to life.

Despite the emphasis on blood splatter and gore, don’t expect a straightforward horror movie. Destroy All Neighbors is a gory comedy with a warm, gooey center. When asked if finding that perfect balance between comedy, gore, and heart evolved during the development process or was there from the start, Josh Forbes explained it’s inherent to his style and tastes.

Forbes elaborates, “I think that’s just my sensibility. That’s just who I am and the stuff that I like. I always joke that it’s like I watch these Ari Aster movies, or, I don’t know, these Robert Eggers movies that are very bleak and smart and criterion-collected, and I’m like, that’s not me. Even with horror, people ask me, ‘Oh, what’s the scariest movie?’ And I’ll watch scary movies, but I watch it for the magic trick of it. Evil Dead II and Dead Alive and Basket Case and all that. That’s my corner of the video store. And to nerd out even more, Frank Henenlotter movies like Basket Case or Frankenhooker or all of those are such ridiculous premises with such goofy, ridiculous gags.

“But at the center of it is people, and heart. It’s like Belial is sad that he was separated from his brother. Or Aylmer, it’s about drug addiction, you know what I mean? I love that juxtaposition of things. I think anything I do is going to have some level of goofiness or heart or sweetness to it, even as hard as I try to be cool. It’s going to come out.”

Destroy All Neighbors Character Posters

That the filmmaker cites Henenlotter as an influence couldn’t be more perfect considering the special makeup effects legend behind Aylmer, Belial, and Frankenhooker, Gabe Bartalos, also lent his considerable talents to the undead denizens of Destroy All Neighbors.

“Well, the first writer in the movie, Charlie Pieper, he knew and worked with Gabe,” Forbes said of Bartalos’ involvement. “He had an internship with him or worked with him on some stuff. He brought him up from day one, eight years ago, or whenever we came up with this idea. So, that was always in the back of our heads, but it was definitely a movie that we designed to work with the people that we knew. I had asked Ryan Kattner very early on, ‘Hey, if we ever made this movie, would you want to do the music for it?’ He was like, ‘Oh, yeah.’ So similar to that, we started collecting all the different people that we knew who might be really excited to jump on a project like this. Gabe gets to do a bunch of stuff, but it’s probably not always in his wheelhouse. But this was like, ‘Hey, Gabe, I want the Gabe experience. What would you want to make?’ And he’s like, ‘Oh, really?’ He went hog wild with it.”

Of course, one of the most prominent aspects of Bartalos’ work on the film comes in the form of Vlad, played by an almost unrecognizable Alex Winter under all the prosthetics. Jonah Ray Rodrigues, who also produces the film, explained how the team enlisted the veteran actor for the comedic antagonist role.

“Josh approached me with the movie a while back,” Rodrigues begins. “We were tweaking the script, and we were just thinking about who would be in it and how it could go. And, of course, things like life get in the way, other shows or projects get in the way, and pandemics get in the way. But within that time, and when we first started talking, I was not friends with Alex. Then, I had become friends with Alex, and still, it never occurred to me to ask him to be there. I thought, ‘Am I going to ask the serious documentarian to do this silly movie?’ When Bill and Ted III came out, both Josh and I were like, ‘Whoa, Alex is back in prosthetics doing super big funny comedy stuff.’ So, I asked, ‘Hey man, I don’t know if you’re still doing this kind of stuff, but would you want to try?’ Alex was like, ‘I don’t know, probably not.’ And then, ‘Yeah, I think I’ll do it. Seems fun.'”

Rodrigues jokes, “I think it might have just been a pandemic decision that Alex may regret one day.”

Alex Winter as Vlad

While Winter’s turn as Vlad winds up one of the more raucously funny highlights of the film, it took a little tweaking to ensure the comedy came through. 

An amused Forbes shares, “The first time that we shot with Alex in that makeup, the Vlad face was so intimidating. We did a shot, and then I moved on really quickly, and then later Alex was looking at the dailies, and he is like, ‘Hey, dude, we only did one take of that.’ And I was like, ‘Yeah, you looked so mad.'” 

“Yeah, that’s Vlad’s resting face, yes,” Winter quips.

Winter also walks us through the process of Vlad’s creation and design, “Well, you build a character no matter what you’re doing. You build character if you’re doing totally grounded drama. The fun thing about playing someone who is so unlike you physically is you can do anything you want. So, I just started building this guy in terms of where he was from, how he talked, what his back history was, how did that impact. Those are things that are not so much for the acting as much as they are for the build. It determines does he have tattoos? What kind of body does he have? What kind of hair does he have? How does he walk? How does he talk? Gabe and I started talking about that stuff.”

Winter continues, “We brought him on pretty early on in the prep process, as Josh had known him before. Then I started talking to Bill Corso and even other makeup effects people that I know about what’s doable, not in terms of instructing Gabe. He didn’t need any instruction. He had a whole idea in his mind, and I wanted to follow that. It is a very collaborative thing to do. I’m like, Vlad is part me, part Gabe, part Bill Corso, part Josh. It’s like all this stuff, kind of bolted together. But I definitely had an idea for how I wanted him to be, and largely, that was practical. I think it was something I said to Jonah from the beginning was, ‘You want to build someone that looks like me to an extent in terms of, it can’t be so far for me that I’m just a guy in a paper mache suit because then what’s the point?’

“So we had to build someone that was intimidating in a way but also just fricking nuts so that he would be annoying enough. Jonah is like seven feet tall and I’m like four feet tall. Not really, but sort of. Something that Josh and I had talked about was, ‘Do you put him on risers?’ And Josh said, ‘No, I think it would be just as scary not on risers. Look at Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.’ I think it’s true. I think that’s figuring out a way to make him more like me but with Gabe’s design and Bill’s paint.’

Destroy all Neighbors trailer

Rodrigues has the tough task of playing a much more grounded character reacting to these larger-than-life undead characters and wild situations. The actor, who comes from a strong comedic background, demonstrates that sometimes it’s the quieter character moments and jokes that induce the biggest laughs.

“Yeah, that’s kind of always been a bit of my wheelhouse,” Rodrigues says of his straight man character type. “I’ve been doing comedy a long time, like sketch and TV and stuff like that. I’ve always really liked playing the straight man, too. I had a show called Hidden America, which was a fake travel show parody thing. But what I liked about it was that I was the roaming straight man of like, oh, I could just facilitate these ideas I have, not necessarily playing the character, but being able to showcase the character. I’m more Carl Reiner to Mel Brooks’ 2000 Year Old Man, where in this, Alex is the 2000-year-old man, and I really like facilitating and feeding that stuff. So it’s been super fun and stuff I’ve done since I started.

“When I did a show with Kumail Nanjiani, it’s like Kumail’s one of the funniest guys in the world. So, just being able to help facilitate him being funny or being the straight man between Tom Servo and Crow T. Robot on MST. It’s something that I’ve always enjoyed within comedy, facilitating the scene as best I can.”

See how Rodrigues and Winter riff off each other when Shudder unleashes Destroy All Neighbors on January 12.

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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The Work ‘Grind’ Is Hell, So Brea Grant & Ed Dougherty Made a Horror Anthology About It [CFF 2026 Interview]

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Genre fans rejoice! Chattanooga Film Festival is back for its 13th year in 2026 with a killer lineup and once again offering audiences both in-person and virtual options. After having its World Premiere at SXSW this spring, the horror comedy anthology Grind is playing CFF 2026 opening weekend.

From a screenplay by Brea Grant (Torn Hearts, 12 Hour Shift) and Ed Dougherty (MLM) and segments directed by Grant, Dougherty, and Chelsea Stardust (Satanic Panic), Grind features four interwoven stories that parody the gig economy, hustle culture, and the evils of late-stage capitalism.

The anthology follows weary everyday people juggling side hustles just to survive, while going up against greedy oligarchs, and cleverly uses dark humor and bloody practical effects to portray a world much like our current economic nightmare.

Bloody Disgusting had the pleasure of chatting with Brea Grant and Ed Dougherty about the socioeconomic commentary in Grind, casting Barbara Crampton as a villain, and DIY filmmaking.

Bloody Disgusting: Every segment in this anthology feels relatable because people are actually struggling to survive in the gig economy right now. How did the two of you come up with the idea of creating Grind?

Brea Grant: Like you said, we were trying to come up with a cool idea that seemed relevant right now. The thing that everyone we know is talking about is the economy, the lack of work, and the nightmare hellscape that is late-stage capitalism. It felt like the right time to write something that really featured that as the main horror. As the main thing that people were scared of, this world sort of came to us over the course of a couple of years.

Ed Dougherty: We wanted to make a hit film, and we said, “Let’s make a horror anthology, that’s the most marketable thing there is.” [laughs]

BG: [laughs] Definitely not!

BD: I love anthologies!

ED: We do, too. We feel like it’s kind of an undervalued form of horror film, but it’s a hard sell.

BG: People told us not to make it. They said, “Don’t make an anthology. It’s too hard to sell.” But we did it anyway.

BD: I guess I’m just one of those weirdos who likes anthologies and watches them all.

ED: We believe that there are a lot of weirdos like you out there. It seems like every good horror anthology has a long life, but it’s just getting over the initial hump that’s difficult.

BD: Chelsea Stardust directed some of the segments with the two of you and serves as a producer. How did she first get involved with this project?

BG: The project has a long history. We shot the first segment, which is about multi-level marketing, a couple of years ago. We had decided we wanted to make a full anthology, but it took us about a year after shooting that initial segment to shoot the rest of the movie. When we did that, we knew we needed to bring on a producer aside from Ed and me, since we were directing the bulk of the movie, so that was how she came on board. I’ve been friends with her for a long time, and the one thing I know about her as a friend is that she is very organized, so it felt like a good fit. I just called her one day and said, “Would you want to produce these three segments that we have left to shoot of Grind?” and she came on board.

BD: There are some fun cameos in Grind, but we have to talk about Barbara Crampton. She’s so good as a villainess. Why did you want her for this role, and what was it like working with her on this film?

BG: She’s in her villain era, which is so fun. [laughs] Obviously, we’re huge Barbara Crampton fans, and when we were making MLM, it was a smaller part of the movie that we knew we needed to call on people who could do a good job but were also friendly to us [laughs]. I’m friends with Barbara Crampton, and we’ve done three movies together before this. So, it felt like someone within our reach, but could also really draw a horror crowd. She has a huge fanbase, and she’s also super supportive of all the projects that she’s been in, so that was also really exciting. She’s a great actress, and she’s super funny. I think a lot of these horror actresses, especially those who came up in the eighties and nineties, weren’t given an opportunity to be funny. I think she was ready to jump on an opportunity that was different than what she was used to; it’s not running around and screaming. She is a cult leader, and she is quite funny in it. She just takes the comedy so well and seriously, and she does such an amazing job with it. She has a scene across from Rob Huebel, who is obviously a comedy master, and I feel like the two of them together were hilarious. It’s been fun to watch Barbara go from these iconic roles to a different kind of role at this point in her career. We’re super happy to be a part of that.

ED: And she loves the movie and has been so supportive. Every time she posts about it, I’m like, “I can’t believe this. This is amazing.”

BD: This is an accurate parody of the current socioeconomic situation in this country, as well as our obsession with online culture. It repeatedly asks the question, “What are you willing to do to make money,” in a world with wealth inequality and evil oligarchs. It’s fun, and it’s a horror movie, but it’s thought-provoking. What do you hope audiences take away from Grind, besides having a good time?

ED: I read every review and every Letterboxd review; Brea does not. So, I’ve seen it all. I’ve seen some reviews that say, “Good movie but doesn’t propose a solution.” I think we do propose a solution, which is that the power of unions and organizing is the only way that we will be able to fight back against oligarchs. I do think that is the message of the film. Organizing is the only way to defeat these villains. I do think we have a lot to say in the film. I’d want someone to say, “Man, I’ve never seen a horror anthology that had a political message before.” [laughs]

BG: I think the other thing is that what is currently happening is that we live in a world in which people kind of feel alone in this. They’re like, “Well, I’m doing bad, “or “I’m having trouble paying my rent.” We wanted to hang a lantern on the fact that this is happening to everyone, that wealth disparity is at an all-time high. We’re pointing out to people that you aren’t in this alone; you’re not the only person doing side hustles. Every filmmaker friend I have is working a side job of some sort at this point, and that is just in Los Angeles. Outside of this city, I think things are more dire. I think it was about infusing some politics into something that could make people realize that they aren’t alone and that there are ways of fighting back and fighting the system that has been set up against them.

ED: I think the tone of the movie, which is darkly comedic, also really matches the tone of life right now. Everything seems almost at a parody level as far as the disconnect between oligarchs and trying to make a living and reality. The absurdist nature of the film kind of captures the real tone of life.

BD: There are some cool creature effects and makeup effects in this movie. Can you talk a little bit about the practical effects and makeup?

ED: I think especially because of the message of the film, which is pushing back against the current hellscape we’re in, we wanted to use as many practical effects as possible. We used matte paintings, miniatures, and practical creature effects. I’m always afraid of the matte painting because we used the old school matte painter, but they do look a little AI. I heard someone make a noise behind me during one of the shots, and I was like, “I hope that noise wasn’t them using AI because that’s a matte painting.” [laughs] There’s also the fact that it’s pretty DIY. It’s a film that we financed ourselves and shot in our houses as much as possible. We wanted the whole thing to feel handmade and very tactile.

BG: We’re old school horror fans, so we love seeing practical effects. The practical stuff is really fun for us. It’s the stuff that we think is actually cool. [laughs] So, practical stuff made the most sense for us. We both grew up in the punk scene in the nineties, and I think it just kind of comes naturally to us to try to do things ourselves. And we both work on projects for big companies, with smaller companies, but always for other people, so trying to do something ourselves to see what that felt like was also part of the experiment of Grind.

ED: This was our chance to do everything we wanted our way.

Grind screens at the Chattanooga Film Festival on June 20.

 

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