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‘Sting’ – How Wētā Workshop Creative Director Richard Taylor 3D Printed a Practical Spider Puppet [Interview]

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Sting effects by Richard Taylor/Weta Workshop

Writer/Director Kiah Roache-Turner (Wyrmwood: Apocalypse) lets a monstrous spider loose this week with Sting, featuring practical effects from 5-time Academy Award® Winner Wētā Workshop, led by Creative Director Richard Taylor (Blade Runner 2049, King Kong, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy).

Well Go USA releases the giant spider horror movie in theaters on April 12, 2024.

In Sting, a mysterious object falls from the sky and smashes through the window of a rundown apartment building in New York City during a snowstorm. From it emerges a little spiderling, which is discovered by Charlotte (Alyla Browne), a rebellious 12-year-old girl obsessed with comic books. She opts to raise it as her new secret pet, dubbed Sting, but its insatiable appetite quickly spirals out of control.

The spider at the center of this horror movie may come from outer space, but it closely resembles an Australian redback spider. Bloody Disgusting spoke with Richard Taylor about the film’s practical effects and eerie spider puppet. Richard Taylor walked us through the daunting task of creating a giant spider puppet on a smaller production.

Charlotte and Sting

This is an immensely challenging project, and obviously, most directors would naturally pursue a CG solution, which is ultimately complicated in its own right due to the challenges of doing something digitally,” Taylor tells us. “But the actual ability to then map it into the world and make it move in a plausible way is a relatively simple byproduct of the technology. Doing it as a puppet, which has to do a large number of performance actions and achieve all of the movements of a spider, and be able to do that in a confined space, sets up a huge number of challenges, of course. Then, building something in a short period of time, trying to get the chitinous quality and reflective nature of the shell.”

Taylor continues, “Where once we might have done sculptures and molds and casts and made it out of fiberglass, et cetera, today we were able to entirely 3D print it. The 3D printing material, the actual nylon, had the beautiful quality of the surface that Kiah wanted, which made it that much easier. But of course, you’ve got eight legs, all of them internally articulated, the articulation of the face, the pedipalps, the reflectivity of the eyes, the pumping of venom, the dripping of the teeth, the moving of the abdomen against the head. Then, of course, trying to combine all of that with three to four puppeteers that are all interacting simultaneously in very tight spaces. So yeah, it’s a delightfully challenging job. We loved making it, and we loved interacting with Kiah, and anyone who wants to do a physical monster movie is a friend to us. So it was a very exciting job and something we were very pleased to be working on.”

Sting redback

Choosing a redback as the model for Sting comes with unique challenges, thanks to the arachnid’s smooth exoskeleton and ultra-thin legs. Taylor breaks down how they approached the creature’s anatomy and design.

Kiah, being an arachnophobe, knew exactly the type of spider he wanted. Originally, it was just going to be an exact replica of a redback, and we could follow the anatomical accuracy of that, and that’s indeed what Sting is, other than its face, which ultimately we resolved through Kiah’s wonderful drawings,” Taylor explains. “The great thing about Kiah is that he has the ability to communicate through sketch art very accurately what he wants, so the face evolved. But other than the face, he stayed true to his first words on the first day that we met him because he knew exactly the type of spider that scared the bejeebus out of him, so that was really good.”

He continues, “But that spider has very, very slim limbs, as you note, and the required articulation and each joint becomes a very complex thing. Building something that is of that delicacy to last a single shot is one thing. Building something that will last the six to eight weeks of a shoot, where it is day-to-day going through a very dramatically different set of performance requirements, some jumping, some landing, some being thrown across the room, some looking like it’s delicately bringing its legs through the inside of an air vent, etcetera. The puppeteers are operating the most delicate of rods. We sent our head engineer, Joel [Ahie-Drought], who did a lot of the walking rigs for this puppet, to look after the puppet.

“There were three primary puppeteers. They had to learn to work in complete synchronization so that it feels like the legs are being driven by the mind of the spider, not by three external puppeteers. I’m looking forward to seeing that outcome very much. But you’re right, the operation of legs, because they’ve got so many joints as well, running all the way back to the body. It’s so very tricky but good fun. This is what gets us up in the morning, and it was just so delightful to be set on this challenge and get to make this. We have a replica of Sting proudly mounted on our animatronics wall because the animatronics team was really the brains behind the inside of the creature.

Alien homage in Kiah Roache-Turner's Sting

Creating a practical effects-driven creature is one thing, but having a filmmaker who knows how to film it is an entirely different story. To that end, Richard Taylor has nothing but effusive praise for Kiah Roache-Turner.

“Kiah obviously has an extraordinary career ahead of him, having done a small number of movies by the time we met him,” Taylor raves. “But his confidence and sophistication of communication around the language of film, and specifically around the language of film effects, was really delightful to us. He was able to have great specificity around what he wanted. It wasn’t ever wishy-washy. He didn’t flip and flop around a subject he knew. He came to us with a firm understanding of the type of creature he wanted, but then how he wanted it to work and how he wanted it to achieve certain shots for him. So much of it was about the way it would be lit and the way it would have the right chitinous, reflective, slightly hairy, malicious quality that he finds to be scary in a spider.

“We’ve done other spider projects in the past where the director has a different relationship with a different type of arachnid, but Kiah, obviously, growing up in Australia, had a very specific type of arachnid that evokes the highest level of fear in him, and that’s what he wanted to try and find in this. A lot of our R&D and our development and our sharing, we’d get on a video conference with him very frequently. In the very early days of the project, I just had to act it out with my hand, and I would try and perform the face for him and act out the pedipalps and how the jaw might move, the size of it, and how it might leap, and so on.”

See Wētā Workshop’s work in action in Sting, now playing in theaters.

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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