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‘In a Violent Nature’ – How THAT Centerpiece Kill Came Together [Interview]

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Experimental slasher In a Violent Nature, writer/director Chris Nash’s feature debut, sliced up an impressive opening weekend at the box office and received critical acclaim for its unique take on the slasher subgenre. But there’s one standout moment that has horror fans buzzing: a centerpiece kill so unexpected and gnarly that it ensures undead killer Johnny (Ry Barrett) is a slasher villain to remember.

In a Violent Nature frames the slasher events from the perspective of Johnny, summoned from the dead when a locket is removed from a collapsed fire tower in the woods that entombs his rotting corpse. In a recent chat, Chris Nash and Ry Barrett revealed just how tough this experimental slasher was to make, with Barrett joining the cast well into production, prompting extensive reshoots. That also applies to the aforementioned kill, which is best described as a “yoga pretzel.”

In this sequence, Johnny comes upon Aurora (Charlotte Creaghan) as she’s practicing yoga cliffside. He disembowels her with a rusty hook, then pulls her head back and through the gaping hole in her torso, contorting her body into a gruesome pretzel. It’s a scene that caught Barrett’s attention before taking the role.

Yoga pretzel

Barrett explains, “When I read that in the script, that was the scene where I was like, ‘Okay, now we’re really getting into it.’ And it just kept going and going. There was another step to it, another step, and I was just like, ‘I wonder if they’re actually going to do all of this. That’s what I was thinking. Then, sure enough, we did it all.

“That whole scene, actually, there’s a span of almost a year, from the lead-up to Johnny walking up to her, and then when the actual kill starts to happen; we didn’t have enough time to pull off the full effects of her getting killed,” he continues. “Then there was a weather thing or something, but we couldn’t shoot at that location. I think the weather maybe didn’t match or something, so we had to go back on another block and pick up the rest of that kill from the point of literally just the hook. So, there was almost a whole year in between that location and coming back to it. They went and re-matched the weeds and the leaves and everything to look like that. But I mean, I’ve watched the movie twice now, and even knowing that, I haven’t noticed it.

The actor also walks us through what’s going through Johnny’s mind at that particular moment.

Personally, I tried to give Johnny, just for his motivation, he’s a bit of a wild animal, and there’s no logic at certain points other than he’s on this one mission to get this thing back, Barrett explains. “I think everything else in between is just whatever comes in his way in getting to that main goal; he just doesn’t want to deal with it, basically. I looked at him as a wild animal, as something that belonged where he was, and everything else to him didn’t belong there other than the trees and nature. That was my mentality of looking into things.

“I think the yoga pretzel was that Chris wanted to do something so different and crazy, with so many steps to it, that it was just something that no one would’ve ever seen before. Then having it on this setting of this cliff top just added to everything, too.

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Extensive reshoots meant that this impressive sequence was also affected, and Nash details just how tricky the standout kill was to execute. More specifically, Nash reveals just how long it took to pull this moment together.

Nash tells us, “All the pieces were filmed months and months apart. We started filming that in early May, and then we filmed a second chunk of it, the majority chunk in August. Then, we did pickups in December in my producer’s mother’s backyard. That kill especially is made up of little different tableaus of inner spice, little details of what’s happening to the victim’s body. Building everything was quite difficult, but it wasn’t that difficult to piece it all together. For instance, the one shot that we got in the producer’s mother’s backyard was when the character’s neck is down and we just see a little bit of vertebrae pop up out of her neck. That was just angled downwards, so we can just throw a bunch of dirt on the ground and kind of cover everything up.

“The only thing that we had to fight was the fact that there was a huge seasonal change between May and August in Northern Ontario, Nash continues. “Luckily, we were mainly shooting into the sky because it’s an elevated area. There were ways that we could get around it for sure. As far as where I came up with and how I envisioned that one, I was always trying to figure out deaths that were very specific and unique to his implements. So I was just thinking, for that one especially, what can I do with the hooks? A knife wouldn’t work the same. So yeah. I can’t tell you exactly where it started, but the whole step-by-step process was, ‘How could this get worse? And just coming to a point where ‘There’s no fixing this. Even if you called the doctor right now, there’s no help.'”

Johnny overlooking cliff

Prosthetic effects lead Steven Kostanski (Psycho Goreman, The Void) emphasized just how much shifted in production, save for Aurora’s unforgettable demise. He details, “Some stuff had to get truncated a bit. There were certain kills where they had to simplify them, but that was more on a production level, not necessarily the gag itself. The Aurora death, where she gets spiked in the head and pulled through her own stomach, I feel like he had that from the beginning and was dead set on making that happen. That was definitely one of the more ambitious gags that he hard committed to making sure we got on screen. Thankfully, with all those big sequences, he would do simple storyboards for them so I could at least have a sense of what I’m looking at in the frame. Because in prosthetics and in effect, it’s always about where can I hide blood tubes, where can I hide people? What is the action that the shot needs, and what do I need to do to sell that illusion? Chris was really good about committing to how to shoot this stuff and giving me that direction so I knew how to pull off the illusion.”

Kostanski breaks the kill down, “It’s an elaborate gag, so the problem is that it all can’t be done in one body. While in the scene, it feels like it’s one thing happening. It’s actually multiple bodies doing different things. It was just time contingent, like how much time do you have to set up and blood rig and prep these things on a day, so it necessitated shooting it over multiple days. Again, just how elaborate it was. I built a chunk of it, Chris built a chunk of it. The beat where her spine was separating was all Chris. He built that on his own, and I was more just focused on getting the actual three Aurora bodies ready to go.

“One of them was built just for taking the spike in the head and starting to tilt down, and then the second body was taking it from 90 degrees into the stomach, and then the third body was pulling the head through the stomach. Because obviously, the cavity that Johnny punches through her stomach is only so big. So, on that third and final body, we had to cheat it a lot bigger to accommodate a head pushing through. Yeah, it was just a very elaborate gag with a lot of moving parts, a lot of pieces, and it just necessitated shooting it over multiple days.”

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Of course, Aurora’s standout death isn’t the only grisly end for the film’s unlucky campers. But for Kostanski, it’s still his favorite. He says, “That Aurora kill is so iconic that it’s hard not to pick that one because I’ve never seen that before, and that was Chris’s intention, to actually do something that had never been done. I think it fully succeeds at that. It’s a pretty insane moment. That really summarizes the movie, which is full of subtlety and more of a tone poem-type scenes, and then we cut into a girl getting a spike in her head and pulled through her own stomach. I think that chaotic opposition to the two types of movies happening in the same movie is what makes it so interesting and fun. Yeah, I’d say the Aurora kill is the best one.”

In a Violent Nature is now playing in theaters nationwide.

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.

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How ‘The Exorcism’ Puts a Deeply Personal, “Quietly Radical” Spin on the Possession Movie [Interview]

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There’s much more than meets the eye in The Exorcism, from writer/director Joshua John Miller and co-writer M.A. Fortin (The Final Girls). Or rather, there’s a lot bubbling beneath the surface in this possession horror story.

The Exorcism stars Russell Crowe (The Pope’s Exorcist) as troubled actor Anthony Miller, who begins to unravel after taking on a role in a supernatural horror movie. So much so that his estranged daughter (Ryan Simpkins) wonders if he’s slipping back into his past addictions or if art is imitating life in horrific ways. It’s also hard not to see The Exorcism imitating life, as Joshua John Miller’s father, Jason Miller, playing the doomed Father Karras in horror classic The Exorcist, which served as a significant source of inspiration behind the film.

Beyond the personal ties to The ExorcistJoshua John Miller and M.A. Fortin pulled from an ambitious well of real-life influences and inspirations when crafting The Exorcism, formerly titled The Georgetown Project. Possession horror becomes laden with metaphor as the life partners mined from personal experiences working in Hollywood, for better and worse.

The Exorcism faced a long road to release, having shot primarily in 2019 before pandemic-induced delays. It feels like a natural progression from the personal and meta-story driving The Final Girls, but what specifically was the impetus for this equally personal tale?

Joshua John Miller answers Bloody Disgusting’s first question with humor, “Well, we were thinking about this a lot. I think the impetus was the Trump election and that white straight men seemed to be possessed everywhere around us. We sort of got tired of seeing women as hysterical women being portrayed as being possessed. We thought, ‘Well, what if we actually did something about a guy that’s possessed who’s saved by two lesbians?’

Ryan Simpkins, Chloe Bailey, and David Hyde Pierce in The Exorcism

M.A. Fortin expands, “It was just like a car crash of things. It was like someone who had brought up exorcism movies and then the political climate and then really drilled down on the fact that most exorcism movies are pretty patriarchal by nature. I don’t know, somehow one day it was just like, ‘hey, what if?'”

“[We wanted to] subvert the expectations of the genre, Miller adds. “But it was definitely also obviously personal. There are personal elements, and I think Final Girls is very much, obviously, a love letter to my mom, and I think The Exorcist was a love letter, obviously to my dad, but also a FU letter to Hollywood a little bit, because we wanted to sort of tell a story that Hollywood men making movies in the studio system or working the studio system is a deal with the devil.

Hollywood Productions is often such a pressure cooker, and it seems sometimes it can really bring out the worst behavior in people, Fortin agrees. And you can meet a lot of wounded people here who may not necessarily be bad people, but…

“They’re possessed, Miller cracks.

“… but they’re inflicting, Fortin continues. “They don’t know how to handle their own trauma, so they don’t inflict more. I don’t know; a lot went into this pie.

“We’re life partners too, as well as writing partners and collaborating on the movie, on everything, Miller tells us. “We had a really traumatic experience that nearly destroyed us on every level prior to making this movie. The more I look back on this movie, I realize, ‘Oh, this movie is a lot about that experience.’ And feeling claustrophobic in that there was nowhere to go to talk to about it. It was pre-Me Too. It was just on the cusp, and there was nowhere to report anything. When you had no agency, and you feel like Ryan Simpkins in that room when Russell’s coming towards her and says, ‘Where are you going to go? Where are you going to go?

“I think that sense of entrapment and terror was how we felt a lot in certain rooms in the business.”

Russell Crower and Ryan Simpkins as father and daughter

The writers infuse their latest with their own trauma, using horror as a throughline to navigate it all. That was part of their plan from the start. Fortin reflects, “It’s interesting because the more we worked on the movie, the more it was like psychological horror or you could say family drama with horror elements, I don’t know. There’s all kinds of alphabet soup you can play with when it comes to this stuff because, for some reason, when it comes to genre, categorization is really, really important to some people. But it just felt like genre, I think, because we felt internally screaming from a lot of the factors that fed into what made The Exorcism, The Exorcism. I think there was never any contest. It was just like, well, yes, obviously this would be within playing in the genre sandbox.

I never thought of it as a possession movie or an exorcism in my head. I always thought I wanted to do John Cassavetes’ Opening Night as a horror title. That was sort of the actor goes batshit, Miller reflects. Yet, years of rejections over The Final Girls script taught them to withhold that as part of their pitch. Miller gives an example, “We did use to pitch Final Girls as Friday the 13th meets Terms of Endearment, and people would show us the door.”

Fortin confirms, “‘Here’s a bottle of water. Have a wonderful day. They validate your parking, and that’s it. I think another factor was just, it’s interesting because I don’t know that we set out for the movie to have any kind of real political bent, but looking back on it, thinking about it now. One of the things about just anything having to do with the exorcism movies is the veneration of all the Catholic Arcani. They’re the faith-based horror, the horror genre. I know horror and religion and faith and Catholicism specifically bring a lot of comfort to a lot of people, and I would never try to refute that. But it’s also a fully blunt instrument for the rest of us, especially now. I think for us, it felt at least quietly radical to have an exorcism movie that featured queer people.

While the writers are forthcoming in saying they didn’t set out to recreate The Exorcist through a queer lens, the inclusion did let them push the subgenre forward in daring ways. Particularly surrounding lead character Anthony Miller and his traumatic past with the Church. It gets so bold that it even shocked Miller to find a partner in Miramax.

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I think that I was surprised how willing Miramax was to make this script, to be quite honest with you,” Miller admits.

“It is a sad movie, and partly why it’s sad is I think you make the things that you make come from you, from wherever you are at that moment in your life, the director continues. “And my mom tragically passed away right before the movie started shooting, which only added to the weird Exorcist myth. But that was such a tragic shock and so sad that I think it was just unavoidable that that immense grief was palpable in the movie.

“Ryan’s [character in the movie] is also dealing with the death of a mother and the fallout of unresolved grief. Russell’s character is dealing with unresolved trauma. We all have different grief traumas, and so I think there was just no way to escape that; the meta aspect of what had happened in our personal life. Not only was she my mother, but she was also [Fortin’s] mother-in-law, who was like a second mom. They were incredibly close. I think it’s too much to say this work of art is cathartic for us to deal with something. I think actually it was the opposite because it’s like we were looking so head-on to something that was recent.

While The Exorcism is clearly personal, that doesn’t mean the scares get sacrificed to the drama.

Miller sums it up, “To me, the horror is in the grief. The horror is in the violence, emotional violence that happens between the daughter and father. The trauma they both share. Obviously, what happened to Russell’s character as a kid. For me, the scariest movie I’ve seen in a long time was The Zone of Interest. To me, that was one of the most disturbing, upsetting, and terrifying things I had seen. I was nauseous for two hours, and all the horror was in your imagination, right?”

The Exorcism releases in theaters on June 21, 2024.

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