Interviews
‘The A-Frame’ Director and Stars Discuss the Goopy Sci-Fi Horror Comedy [Interview]
Writer/Director Calvin Lee Reeder’s dark, goopy sci-fi horror comedy The A-Frame dangles the potential for a medical miracle when a quantum physicist’s machine opens a portal to a subatomic universe. Things, of course, go awry.
The A-Frame introduces Donna (Dana Namerode) at one of the lowest points in her life as a musician with bone cancer that will require the amputation of her most crucial tool: her arm. But then Donna meets Sam (Johnny Whitworth), a quantum physicist with a groundbreaking machine that could save her limbs and career. But in their desperation for a scientific breakthrough and miracle cure, the blurred ethical lines lead to catastrophic consequences.
The film made its premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival (our review), where Bloody Disgusting spoke with filmmaker Calvin Lee Reeder and stars Dana Namerode and Johnny Whitworth about the characters and goopy sci-fi horror.
“I wanted to explore something in the genre space that I found compelling, and I always really liked this homemade science stuff,” Reeder explains. “I’ve always really been into that, and I think that that comes through on this. There are many films that we could reference, but man, when I got to thinking about how we might do that in a unique way and how we might go about seeing that through the protagonist’s lens, what would make that protagonist vulnerable?
“Then I started to think about that in a very literal and economical way. How could I get her clock ticking, and how could we start asking real existential questions? Not necessarily, even in a poetic way. Our clock is ticking. How can we do that? I think that that will advance our plot and keep people engaged.”
The dark sci-fi horror comedy introduces its protagonist at a low point in her life, and the threat against her career leaves Donna both desperate and furious. She’s not yet hit despair or grief. Did starting at that emotional state help connect Dana Namerode to the character?
Namerode answers, “She’s already starting the film running a race for her hand, maybe not her life. She’s going to live either way, but she’s fighting this incredibly difficult and painful fight right off the bat as we start. Then, from there, things just go twisted, crazy unexpected up and down. And I think that element of it definitely drew me to the character for sure.”
While Reeder’s film veers into macabre comedy, it approaches the topic of cancer with care. That also applies to Namerode’s performance. The actor explains the process of representing a cancer patient. “I actually have some people in my life who have gone through cancer,” Namerode tells us. “Luckily, these specific people have made it safely out the other side, and I was very lucky to have people to sit down for long conversations with and talk to them, and being very frank and open, learn about their experiences with the purpose of wanting to do that justice because it’s not something that I personally went through. I definitely took a lot of time to learn their stories and experiences. Some things I personally didn’t expect.
“For example, I naturally thought that when someone tells you good news in that realm, the reaction would be joy,” Namerode continues. “Then I spoke to some people, and they told me no. The reaction is when you swerve out of a car crash, you don’t celebrate. You’re just almost in a state of shock. This is just one example that unless you’ve gone through that, you don’t really know. I thought it was really important to take the time to actually speak with people who have gone through this. And I learned a lot from that, and I hope that I was able to do them justice.”

Opposite Donna is the charismatic Sam, a cool scientist with disarming swagger. Beneath his cool exterior, though, lies ambition that makes it clear there’s a bit more to his character than he initially presents. Is it a mask?
Johnny Whitworth answers, “Well, it’s a utility that he utilizes so that he can manage to put people at ease, our person at ease. I mean, it’s this situational kind of thing. So, I don’t know. Is it a mask when you’re just conscious of it, or is it a mask because you’re unconscious of it? Everyone wears masks, so I guess the argument is that a lot of people are unconscious, so they’re running around with a mask. I think he was pretty straightforward.”
The setup and occasionally goopy moments earn The A-Frame easy comparisons to David Cronenberg’s early works, The Fly in particular, and the film did inspire Reeder in part here. However, the filmmaker’s influences go well beyond Cronenberg.
Reeder explains, “We love The Fly. We love Cronenberg, so I would never want to deny that. But I would also want to add that we love all of The Flys, from the 1957 Playboy article that became the 1958 OG with Vincent Price. Then you got Return of the Fly, you got Curse of the Fly, then you got Cronenberg’s The Fly, then you got the 1989 Eric Stoltz’s The Fly II by Chris Walas. It’s fantastic. So we love all that. That’s all part of it. Additionally, we got things, maybe even more so From Beyond. Re-Animator.
“Altered States is like my spirit animal, so that’s always in everything I do. Then I would definitely say a lesser-known film that also has Vincent Price in it is Dead Heat, and that is an important film for me here, where we talk about technology and mortality. That said, those are just influences. We didn’t lift their stories. We just wanted something that looked and felt like those things. And to join that curriculum. I’ve recently seen a lot of really successful types of films that might be considered homage. Something like M3GAN, something like X. These are all films that I really dig, and I was like, wow, this is kind of what’s happening right now. I maybe want to give that a try.”
With all of those intriguing influences, it’s worth noting that The A-Frame makes stellar use of some goopy, gory practical effects. That was something Reeder committed to from the outset.
“We never saw this film without some practical elements,” Reeder reveals. “I would also say that our VFX digital elements are working in perfect unison with them, so we really rely on both heavily, and that’s always how I feel like you get the best result. But yes, practical, as long as we can continue to get away with it as filmmakers, before AI steals everything from us, but for now we want to hire as much practical effects and put that in front of the audience.
“The audience deserves it, but the audience also deserves really cool VFX, too.”

Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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