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‘Never Let Go’ – Alexandre Aja Discusses the Film’s Fairy Tale Influences [Interview]

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Director Alexandre Aja has certainly made his mark on the horror genre over the past 20 years. After bursting onto the scene in 2003 with the controversial High Tension, he weaved his way through American genre films with the remake of Wes Craven’s The Hills Have Eyes, the remake of Into the Mirror, the remake of Joe Dante’s Piranha, the adaptation of Joe Hill’s Horns, and the creature feature Crawl. Now, he’s unleashing his latest film Never Let Go, a mature fairy tale that sends him back into a world similar to the one he built in Horns eleven years ago.

Never Let Go, in theaters on Friday, stars Halle Berry, Percy Daggs IV and Anthony B. Jenkins.

Berry plays June, “known simply as Momma to her fraternal twin sons, Samuel (Anthony B. Jenkins) and Nolan (Percy Daggs IV). After an entity she calls ‘the Evil’ took over the world, Momma has kept her family safe for the past ten years by confining them to the cabin where she herself grew up. They forage and hunt in the surrounding woods, making sure to ‘never let go’ of the ropes tied to the foundation of their increasingly-dilapidated home, which they believe is the only place in the world safe from ‘the Evil.’ But as food runs low, the boys begin to wonder whether ‘the Evil’ is even real — or if Momma’s just really, really sick. With the ties that bind them severed, a terrifying fight for survival ensues.”

Having already tackled piranha and alligators in his previous films, it should come as no surprise that Aja was attracted to a story that featured snakes, though it wasn’t the serpentine figures that drew Aja to the project. It was the script, written by screenwriters KC Coughlin and Ryan Grassby (The King Tide).

I’m always trying to find a new way of creating fear,” Aja tells Bloody Disgusting. “I want to create an immersive experience for the audience. Something that doesn’t feel like it’s a repetition, but instead feels new. [Never Let Go] was quite unique because the voice of the writers was so specific. There was some kind of really interesting fairy tale quality to what they developed.”

It is that fairy tale quality that’s most captivating in Never Let Go, and seeing as how many of them have their roots planted firmly in the horror genre, Aja found that they blended together perfectly.

I feel that more and more genre movies are stepping beyond simple entertainment,” Aja explains. “They are operating similar to the way fairy tales used to in that they are becoming a psychological tool to confront our own darkness. That’s something that I think is very interesting, and the sci-fi genre did that for a long time as well, you know? It reflected society. But fear, the horror genre, is dipping more and more into that world as well.”

Halle Berry as Momma in Never Let Go. Photo Credit: Liane Hentscher

In the film, the cabin that the characters live in is surrounded by a vast forest, a setting that feels quite at home when looked at through a fairy tale lens. Yet rather than pull visual inspiration from existing stories, Aja set out to create his own.

“There was not a specific fairy tale that was in my mind,” Aja says, “but [the script] was definitely, on its own, a fairy tale. And that was something that I kind of touched on without really realizing it when I worked on Horns. With Never Let Go, the idea of the world that’s ended, the idea that there is no electricity threw me back into classical paintings and chiaroscuro where you have all the light coming from within.

To give the film a larger visual scope that would be juxtaposed with the narrative’s smaller scope, Aja turned to Maxime Alexandre, his frequent director of photography, to capture the emptiness of the characters’ surroundings.

“For Maxime,” Aja tells us, “it was the opportunity to shoot on 65mm film. [This allowed us to] use a wider screen, to have more information. To have this forest that’s a character, being alive, being scary, being present.

Despite operating as a fairy tale of sorts, Never Let Go is still very much an R-rated film, featuring brutal, if fleeting, moments of violence inflicted upon our main characters. Unlike many of Aja’s previous films, however, Never Let Go opts for suspense over blood and gore, which was something that was immediately appealing to him.

It felt really different from the splatter bloody kind of thing that I know how to do,” Aja says of the script’s approach to violence. “But this movie somehow has a fear that will stay with you a little longer. It reminded me a lot of one of my favorite movies, Onibaba, the Japanese movie. But also, there was something about The Others and something about The Shining when I read the script. Something that was just haunting and staying with me.”

Despite Halle Berry’s presence, the two boys are the central focus of the film. In a film that deals with such heavy subject matter, Aja was all too aware that he’d have to take some time to prepare his young actors for the more intense scenes. Luckily, they were more than up to the challenge.

“I was really blessed to work with such amazing young actors,” Aja raves. “But sometimes we had to take a break because it was too intense. They were really feeling the horror growing around them so it was sometimes scary for them. In those cases, we would take a break and have a good moment before we stepped back in the scene. After all, you don’t want them to be traumatized by the experience of making this movie. But there is deep and dark stuff in this movie, and we had serious talks about the script with the kids when we were leading up to filming.”

Daggs has a similar recollection of the events, saying that “some of the things were hidden in some scenes, but a lot of the times it wasn’t actually super duper scary. Some of the things I saw were kind of scary at times, but not scary enough to where I didn’t want to see them. It was actually bearable and I had a great time filming it.”

A journalist for Bloody Disgusting since 2015, Trace writes film reviews and editorials, as well as co-hosts Bloody Disgusting's Horror Queers podcast, which looks at horror films through a queer lens. He has since become dedicated to amplifying queer voices in the horror community, while also injecting his own personal flair into film discourse. Trace lives in Denver, CO with his husband and their two dogs. Find him on Twitter @TracedThurman

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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