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How ‘Clown in a Cornfield’ Strikes the Balance Between Horror, Humor and Gory Kills [Interview]

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Eli Craig directed Clown in a Cornfield

Tucker & Dale vs. Evil director Eli Craig is back in the realm of slashers with Clown in a Cornfield, the adaptation of author Adam Cesare‘s young adult slasher novel. This time, the filmmaker is taking a much more serious approach that showcases suspense with the gory kills.

Clown in a Cornfield slashes into theaters on May 9, and stars Katie Douglas (Ginny & Georgia), Carson MacCormac (Shazam!), Aaron Abrams (Hannibal), Will Sasso (The Three Stooges), and Kevin Durand (Abigail).

In the film, Katie Douglas stars as Quinn, a young teen who’s recently moved to the quaint town of Kettle Springs with her father, only to discover something is seriously amiss with the place when the mascot of the defunct Baypen Corn Syrup Factory returns to kill. Again and again.

Craig, who also helmed the comedy-horror movie Little Evil and the pilot of the “Zombieland” TV series, put a lot of thought into the film’s tone, which has much more lighthearted humor and quips than Cesare’s novel without veering too far into comedy territory.

“Well, I’ll be honest. In a way, the straightforward horror is less of a challenge than comedy,” Craig reflects of the film’s balance between horror and humor. “People don’t understand how hard comedy really is, but it was a challenge to wrap my head around like, wait a minute, I’m ready to do a horror film? Even after I’ve dismantled all the horror tropes in the world. I’ve already poked fun at them all, so now how am I going to embrace them and be okay with embracing these tropes?

“I think I figured out the way to do it because the way I do it here is I embrace the tropes up to a point, and then I reverse them, and I change them all up. I make sure that we’re doing new and original things within the framework of a horror film. And I get to add a little bit of comedy too.

Clown in a Cornfield

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He elaborates, “For Tucker and Dale, I always wanted the deaths to be the funniest part of the film, so when it was gory, you should be laughing. For this, it was really the opposite, and I wanted to be very careful that the action and suspense and the kills were not humorous. There’s then a release valve that happens after where there’s some humor, and so I was really targeted by this one. I want the humor to be right here but not here, and I want to drive the suspense and these horror elements home.

“It’s weird though because a lot of people forget how much good horror films have elements of comedy in them, and even films that people think, ‘Oh, that’s just straight horror.’ Poltergeist [and the like] have all these really funny moments in them that get a crowd to laugh. To me, this is a horror film, and a good horror film to me just has breakout moments of comedy.”

RELATED: Adam Cesare teases plans for Clown in a Cornfield’s fourth novel.

At the center of the horror is Quinn, a final girl with grit and the complexities of being a teenage girl, from romance woes to conflict with her dad. Oh, and a killer clown on the loose. Douglas brought a lot of herself to the role, but she’s quick to credit the novel’s author for her tough final girl role.

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“Before I got there and we started filming, Eli and I talked a lot about her character,” Douglas tells BD. “Essentially, he had the idea where I actually know all about what it’s like to be a teenage girl, so he really just wanted me to bring a lot of myself to the character, which was something I was happy to do for this one. But Adam, who wrote the books, is surprisingly very, very good at writing a contemporary teenage girl. He was a teacher and decided that he wanted to write for the youth, and he did exactly that, and I think a lot of the dialogue is actually Adam.”

For his part, Cesare has a lot of experience around teens, but is just as quick to throw credit back to the young actor breathing new life into his novel’s character.

“I was a teacher for a long time,” Cesare explains of how he’s so tuned into adolescents. “I think the idea of living your life with empathy and trying to understand what people are going through and where they’re coming from should be a baseline humanity thing. Now, I’m about to sound super cynical, but it makes you a better writer. If you just pay attention more and you try to understand what people are going through and where they’re coming from, you’ll pick up on it and I’ll get zinged once or twice for people. I’ll try to use slang or try to use a new concept that already becomes outdated once you get it in a book because books take forever to publish.”

Cesare continues, “But the idea, the core of these characters, I think I’m pretty good at that. I’m pretty good at writing teen characters, regardless of gender. But I also think Katie’s selling it a little short there, too, because I think Eli will tell you Katie was rewriting scenes for herself. Not in a ‘I’m taking over the set’ way. She wasn’t like Klaus Kinski. She was fine-tuning, and she has an incredible ear for authenticity. She has an incredible ear for performance; for her own performance and control of her own performance. I was only on set for a day, but you could see it. The proof is in the pudding, the proof is in the film, and then you talk to her. I’ve gotten to talk to her at a lot of these events, and just she’s just cool as shit and just knows her stuff. She’s a student of the genre.”

Frendo in action

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With the tone settled and a worthy final girl for a new generation in place, that leaves the most important slasher element: the kills.  The director has a keen understanding of how important this is to a slasher and aims to deliver. “We embellished the kills,” he confirms. I think if anything’s very different about the book, it’s not that people are dying. It’s just exactly how they die. These moments are really playful moments for me to figure out. What can we do with the budget we have to make it awesome, to make people just gasp? That’s the moment I’d want people to sometimes scream out, sometimes gasp. I think it’s one of the most important things in a horror movie.

“Obviously, a slasher horror movie is not just about the deaths but how people die and what is the tone when they die. And for me, it’s like walking this fine line of fun but real, and so I keep trying to play with that tone.”

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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