Interviews
‘Good Boy’ Director Ben Leonberg on Getting Indy the Dog Ready for His Haunted House Debut
One of the most anticipated new horror movies this coming Fall is director Ben Leonberg’s Good Boy, which frames a haunted house tale from the eyes of man’s best friend.
Good Boy marks Leonberg’s feature directorial debut from a script he co-wrote with Alex Cannon. It stars Indy, Leonberg’s real-life canine best friend, with the cast also including indie horror stalwart Larry Fessenden, Shane Jensen, and Arielle Friedman.
The concept behind Good Boy is so effective that not only are audiences deeply invested in Indy’s well-being, but the film is getting a wide theatrical release on October 3.
The fervor and excitement don’t surprise Leonberg, speaking with BD via email, one bit. “It kind of proves what I’ve always believed about dogs: In movies, you can kill off thousands of people, beloved figures, even kids, and audiences will barely flinch. But touch a single hair on a dog’s head and people will lose their minds! Just look at John Wick—the entire franchise is basically fueled by the fate of one dog. So to see people so invested in Indy feels weirdly natural, and honestly kind of wonderful.”

Production on Good Boy was extensive; it required a lot of training to get Indy into camera-ready shape, dodging ghosts in one creepy haunted house.
Leonberg explains, “As a filmmaker, I was essentially in a constant state of hands-on production for those 3 years. The main reason for that is Indy could only film 1-3 hours a day, and I used the rest of those days to build shots that would cater to his specific strengths and weaknesses. Indy didn’t have a training schedule—I did. It surprises a lot of people to learn that Indy only knows a handful of tricks and commands—his ‘performance’ isn’t created through conventional training. Instead, it was about being ready with the camera in the right place at the right time, and coaxing him using a combination of everyday commands, weird sounds, physical gestures, and food. Once those moments were edited together, they created the illusion of a performance. There was a lot of planning, patience, re-shooting, and reorganizing my life to build the film around his habits.”
The training paid dividends; it’s all too easy to get anxious anytime Indy is confronted by sinister supernatural forces in Good Boy. Don’t worry, though, as this just speaks to the incredible central performance by Indy. “The ‘scary‘ scenes were always the most fun for Indy and the most creatively fulfilling for me. What looks like frightened barking or paralyzing fear onscreen is, in reality, Indy staring down a treat or a tennis ball just off camera that he really wants. (And which he got as soon as we ‘cut’). Thanks to the magic of filmmaking and juxtaposition of disparate shots (the Kuleshov Effect), the audience projects their own emotions onto those puppy-dog eyes.“

It’s not just the canine performance that immerses us in this story, but the clever camerawork that further puts us in Indy’s, well, paws. “Right off the bat, one huge challenge was purely practical: Indy’s eyeline is just 19 inches off the ground,“ Leonberg explains. “Getting the camera on his level meant building a custom rig and tripod designed just for him. For handheld work, it meant a lot of bending and crouching—my back definitely paid a price. Almost every single shot demanded some kind of invention, whether it was rethinking camera placement, finding a new way to work with Indy, building a new piece of equipment, or just embracing the chaos and following his lead.“
Just as important a character as Indy is the haunted house itself. In Good Boy, the location serves as both an onscreen character and a crucial training ground for Indy.

Leonberg says, “I wanted the house to feel like a liminal space, caught between the real and the supernatural, with foggy exteriors and an ethereal atmosphere. But Indy navigates the space intuitively, exploring nose-first in a way that feels completely lived-in. And in reality, it was ‘lived in.’ We lived in the house for the entire duration of filming. Indy treating the house as his actual home is a big part of why his performance looks so natural–because it is!”
Leonberg drew inspiration from the family pet in Poltergeist, namely, in the way the dog seemed to notice the supernatural ahead of the Freelings. But that wasn’t the only famous horror pup that inspired the filmmaker. “Without a doubt, Jed—the dog (and original ‘Thing’) from The Thing—is an all-time great, and honestly, the bar we were aiming for with Indy.
“Jed was an astonishing animal actor. There are shots of him just wandering the outpost, essentially ‘casing the joint,‘ where the synchronicity between his behavior and the camera work is so precise it blows my mind. Jed was actually a wolf-dog hybrid, and Carpenter mentions on the DVD director’s commentary that’s why his stare feels so unsettling and unblinking. That intensity and the use of Jed’s subjectivity were hugely inspirational for us while working on Good Boy with Indy. And of course, I have to shout out Pipit from Jaws. RIP Pipit!”

Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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