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How Bryan Fuller’s ‘Dust Bunny’ Evolved From An ‘Amazing Stories’ Episode [Interview]

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It’s not the ravenous monster under the bed that steals Bryan Fuller’s Dust Bunny, but young lead Sophie Sloan as the adorably precocious 10-year-old Aurora.

In Dust Bunny, releasing in theaters on December 12, Aurora enlists her mysterious neighbor (Mads Mikkelsen) to dispatch the creature that she asserts ate her parents. That her neighbor happens to be a hit man complicates things in this charming gateway horror adventure.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Fuller about his feature directorial debut after the film’s TIFF premiere about its conception and creation, including the practical puppetry and creature design behind his monster. For the filmmaker, nailing Aurora as a character was far more crucial.

Dust Bunny originated conceptually as an episode of Amazing Stories, Apple TV+’s anthology series executive produced by Steven Spielberg, but Fuller pivoted when that didn’t work out. “I was working on the story with a wonderful writer named David Graziano, whom I worked with on American Gods. We were working on this story for Amazing Stories, and it didn’t make it through the process. I was like, ‘I want to do something very specific with this.’ That was kind of the impetus for the big emotional component of Aurora’s life. Because every time I write a character, I have to chip off a Horcrux and put it in the character. So it’s a bit of a barometer, so I understand how they’re going to behave.

“There was a pretty big chip, there was a Nagani-sized chip in Aurora for my experience growing up. Which was, I think, when you grow up in a tricky home, and then you realize that it’s a different home than your friends, and then you get out into sort of semi-adult life, and you’re like, ‘Oh wow, this is really a different home than how things are supposed to be.’ Or usually that was the element of who Aurora is, how I’m Aurora. And how anybody who’s had a tricky childhood, hopefully, will see how they’re Aurora. So it was about giving the audience enough of Aurora so they could still see themselves in Aurora.”

Writing the character is step one, but finding the young actor to fill Aurora’s shoes would be a whole other process.

“I mean, it was easy for me because I had a fantastic casting director named Margery Simkin, who found her and went through a ton of folks to get her,” Fuller cracks. “I think there were 4,000 auditions that they had. There was a crazy amount of submissions, then a less crazy amount of auditions that were still in the hundreds, if not thousands. Then those got whittled down to 12 that I saw. [Simkin] has cast all the Avatar movies and has been around for a second and has worked with Sigourney [Weaver] multiple times. She also helped facilitate that happening. But Sophie really was Margery’s discovery. And she’s a Scottish actress, she’s a little Scottish girl.”

While Sloan’s audition process impressed, her accent was at odds with the film’s New York setting. If Fuller needed convincing to cast Sloan as Aurora, his leading man and frequent collaborator Mads Mikkelsen made it clear that Sloan was his choice as scene partner. 

Fuller explains, “It was like with Mads and her heavy accents, and we’re supposed to be in New York, nobody’s going to buy this. They told her, ‘The director loves you, but your accent is very thick, and we can’t set it in Scotland.’ Mads was campaigning once we narrowed it down to three actors. Mads is my partner, and I was like, ‘Here are the final three.’ He said, ‘Just do it with that girl, but just set it in Scotland. Just change the setting because she’s so good.'”

Mikkelsen was right, and, as Fuller tells us, Sophie Sloan is the film’s not-so-secret weapon. The filmmaker also cites acting coach Lena Cruz as a vital component in Sloan’s affecting performance. 

Prepare to fall head over heels for Aurora when Dust Bunny hits theaters this week.

 

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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