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Join Clive Barker and John Carpenter for Dinner – 1990 BBC Special ‘Horror Cafe’

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You’re invited to a dinner party hosted by none other than Clive Barker (Books of Blood, Hellraiser). The guests are a ghastly group of horror geniuses from both fiction and film: John Carpenter (HalloweenThe Thing), Roger Corman (The Poe Cycle of films for AIP), Ramsey Campbell (Hanging Moon), Lisa Tuttle (Windhaven), and Peter Atkins (screenwriter Hellraiser 2, Wishmaster). What’s even better than getting to sit in on this group discussing the ins and outs of genre and what qualifies as “scary”,  you’ll actually witness their creative process. The task they’ve set for themselves is to “create the ultimate horror movie for the end of the millennium, the year 2000.” Robert Louis Stevenson’s The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is their jumping off point. With that, you have the setup for this highly captivating special originally broadcast by BBC Late Night on September 15th, 1990.

I’ve seen almost every horror special that’s ever surfaced on YouTube, but somehow this golden nugget had eluded me until now. I’d just finished a fairly intense, non-stop, two week long creative process and I was mentally drained. I needed something to spark the light of inspiration within me and just like magic (or some overly complicated algorithm) there in my “Recommended” column was a grainy broadcast image of young Clive Barker and a title that read Horror Cafe. I had no choice but to click the link, obviously.

Clive Barker sitting across from John Carpenter in the “Horror Cafe”

After a quick opening that reveals rather gruesome meal-prep in a quite literal “Hell’s Kitchen”, I was treated to an hour and a half “behind the curtains” style conversation among the six talented creators. Despite the blatant studio setting (the stage is dressed in German Expressionist style), the conversation flows very naturally and feels completely unedited as if you’re witnessing a real-time brainstorming session over a three course meal. In truth, the group apparently filmed for over three hours, only to have it whittled down for air. I would certainly be ecstatic to find on uncut version pop up online one of these days.

So do they manage to crack the “ultimate horror movie”? No. Not really. The final conceit is a bit of a jumbled mess due to the conflicting styles of horror from each creator. Carpenter is mostly interested in creating a “popcorn flyer” thrill ride. Barker’s focus is on exploring the fantastical, while Corman is more concerned with the social subtext of it all. That said, some of the images they manage to conjure up are truly haunting and one can’t help but wonder what this idea may have looked like brought to life on screens. Intriguingly, one can compare elements of their Millennial saga to what ultimately became Carpenter’s In the Mouth of Madness only four years later. Both stories share an apocalyptic WTF-ness that seems far from coincidental.

So, if the combined efforts of such fantastic minds doesn’t end with the greatest horror story never told, what can we gleam from Horror Cafe? It seems, the answer is, plenty. The discussion starts early about audience’s love of the macabre. As Carpenter so succinctly puts it, “Why do they watch our films and read our books? Because they want to feel SOMETHING.” He further breaks down the two main types of horror, “left wing” and “right wing”. The right’s fear is of something evil coming into “our tribe” but the left is afraid of the evil already inside us all. Through it all, Carpenter maintains the more pragmatic voice of the bunch…which should surprise no one.

John Carpenter in the “Horror Cafe”

When the concept begins leaning into a more intellectual, heady direction, Carpenter is quick to point out, “I’m not scared yet.” And with this statement an age old Hollywood Horror push and pull is acted out in the microcosm of a dinner party. That is, “smart” horror can not in fact be successful. The opinion being, the masses prefer more simplistic, straightforward monsters. Carpenter describes a teenage girl after a test screening of The Thing being upset with that film’s ambiguous ending. When told she was to use her imagination, she responded with, “Oh, I hate that!” Barker expresses concern that youths are called upon to use their imagination less and less. This, of course, was long before the over saturation of social media. It’d be interesting to hear his thoughts of today’s youth culture.

Humorously, the table finally settles on making a “good” film if not inherently a runaway blockbuster smash. Afterall, as Corman points out, “…there’s a difference between a work of art and an Oscar.” Ultimately, no real headway is made on the story until the group decides to take turns, each telling a small piece of the story and leaving it up to the next guest to continue where they left off. This is where the special truly takes flight. Watching these horror masters spitball is both exciting and humorous. Not all of the ideas land, but this might be the closest one can get to actually seeing the creative process in its infantile stages. I can’t recommend this enough for all you out there who want to be the next Barker, Carpenter, or Ramsey.

What a shame this didn’t become an ongoing series of specials. Each episode could’ve highlighted a different group of creative minds given a unique brief to inspire their ideal horror movie. In the least, It’d be truly amazing to see a follow up piece, reuniting Barker and crew to brainstorm another film concept for today’s vastly different market. I’m sure that’s a farfetched wish. Nonetheless, a nerd can dream. Do you find inspiration in any horror docs or behind the scenes specials? If so, which ones do you turn to for that creative spark?

Check out Horror Cafe right here.

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What’s Wrong with My Baby!? Larry Cohen’s ‘It’s Alive’ at 50

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Soon after the New Hollywood generation took over the entertainment industry, they started having children. And more than any filmmakers that came before—they were terrified. Rosemary’s Baby (1968), The Exorcist (1973), The Omen (1976), Eraserhead (1977), The Brood (1979), The Shining (1980), Possession (1981), and many others all deal, at least in part, with the fears of becoming or being a parent. What if my child turns out to be a monster? is corrupted by some evil force? or turns out to be the fucking Antichrist? What if I screw them up somehow, or can’t help them, or even go insane and try to kill them? Horror has always been at its best when exploring relatable fears through extreme circumstances. A prime example of this is Larry Cohen’s 1974 monster-baby movie It’s Alive, which explores the not only the rollercoaster of emotions that any parent experiences when confronted with the difficulties of raising a child, but long-standing questions of who or what is at fault when something goes horribly wrong.

Cohen begins making his underlying points early in the film as Frank Davis (John P. Ryan) discusses the state of the world with a group of expectant fathers in a hospital waiting room. They discuss the “overabundance of lead” in foods and the environment, smog, and pesticides that only serve to produce roaches that are “bigger, stronger, and harder to kill.” Frank comments that this is “quite a world to bring a kid into.” This has long been a discussion point among people when trying to decide whether to have kids or not. I’ve had many conversations with friends who have said they feel it’s irresponsible to bring children into such a violent, broken, and dangerous world, and I certainly don’t begrudge them this. My wife and I did decide to have children but that doesn’t mean that it’s been easy.

Immediately following this scene comes It’s Alive’s most famous sequence in which Frank’s wife Lenore (Sharon Farrell) is the only person left alive in her delivery room, the doctors clawed and bitten to death by her mutant baby, which has escaped. “What does my baby look like!? What’s wrong with my baby!?” she screams as nurses wheel her frantically into a recovery room. The evening that had begun with such joy and excitement at the birth of their second child turned into a nightmare. This is tough for me to write, but on some level, I can relate to this whiplash of emotion. When my second child was born, they came about five weeks early. I’ll use the pronouns “they/them” for privacy reasons when referring to my kids. Our oldest was still very young and went to stay with my parents and we sped off to the hospital where my wife was taken into an operating room for an emergency c-section. I was able to carry our newborn into the NICU (natal intensive care unit) where I was assured that this was routine for all premature births. The nurses assured me there was nothing to worry about and the baby looked big and healthy. I headed to where my wife was taken to recover to grab a few winks assuming that everything was fine. Well, when I awoke, I headed back over to the NICU to find that my child was not where I left them. The nurse found me and told me that the baby’s lungs were underdeveloped, and they had to put them in a special room connected to oxygen tubes and wires to monitor their vitals.

It’s difficult to express the fear that overwhelmed me in those moments. Everything turned out okay, but it took a while and I’m convinced to this day that their anxiety struggles spring from these first weeks of life. As our children grew, we learned that two of the three were on the spectrum and that anxiety, depression, ADHD, and OCD were also playing a part in their lives. Parents, at least speaking for myself, can’t help but blame themselves for the struggles their children face. The “if only” questions creep in and easily overcome the voices that assure us that it really has nothing to do with us. In the film, Lenore says, “maybe it’s all the pills I’ve been taking that brought this on.” Frank muses aloud about how he used to think that Frankenstein was the monster, but when he got older realized he was the one that made the monster. The aptly named Frank is wondering if his baby’s mutation is his fault, if he created the monster that is terrorizing Los Angeles. I have made plenty of “if only” statements about myself over the years. “If only I hadn’t had to work so much, if only I had been around more when they were little.” Mothers may ask themselves, “did I have a drink, too much coffee, or a cigarette before I knew I was pregnant? Was I too stressed out during the pregnancy?” In other words, most parents can’t help but wonder if it’s all their fault.

At one point in the film, Frank goes to the elementary school where his baby has been sighted and is escorted through the halls by police. He overhears someone comment about “screwed up genes,” which brings about age-old questions of nature vs. nurture. Despite the voices around him from doctors and detectives that say, “we know this isn’t your fault,” Frank can’t help but think it is, and that the people who try to tell him it isn’t really think it’s his fault too. There is no doubt that there is a hereditary element to the kinds of mental illness struggles that my children and I deal with. But, and it’s a bit but, good parenting goes a long way in helping children deal with these struggles. Kids need to know they’re not alone, a good parent can provide that, perhaps especially parents that can relate to the same kinds of struggles. The question of nature vs. nurture will likely never be entirely answered but I think there’s more than a good chance that “both/and” is the case. Around the midpoint of the film, Frank agrees to disown the child and sign it over for medical experimentation if caught or killed. Lenore and the older son Chris (Daniel Holzman) seek to nurture and teach the baby, feeling that it is not a monster, but a member of the family.

It’s Alive takes these ideas to an even greater degree in the fact that the Davis Baby really is a monster, a mutant with claws and fangs that murders and eats people. The late ’60s and early ’70s also saw the rise in mass murderers and serial killers which heightened the nature vs. nurture debate. Obviously, these people were not literal monsters but human beings that came from human parents, but something had gone horribly wrong. Often the upbringing of these killers clearly led in part to their antisocial behavior, but this isn’t always the case. It’s Alive asks “what if a ‘monster’ comes from a good home?” In this case is it society, environmental factors, or is it the lead, smog, and pesticides? It is almost impossible to know, but the ending of the film underscores an uncomfortable truth—even monsters have parents.

As the film enters its third act, Frank joins the hunt for his child through the Los Angeles sewers and into the L.A. River. He is armed with a rifle and ready to kill on sight, having divorced himself from any relationship to the child. Then Frank finds his baby crying in the sewers and his fatherly instincts take over. With tears in his eyes, he speaks words of comfort and wraps his son in his coat. He holds him close, pats and rocks him, and whispers that everything is going to be okay. People often wonder how the parents of those who perform heinous acts can sit in court, shed tears, and defend them. I think it’s a complex issue. I’m sure that these parents know that their child has done something evil, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are still their baby. Your child is a piece of yourself formed into a whole new human being. Disowning them would be like cutting off a limb, no matter what they may have done. It doesn’t erase an evil act, far from it, but I can understand the pain of a parent in that situation. I think It’s Alive does an exceptional job placing its audience in that situation.

Despite the serious issues and ideas being examined in the film, It’s Alive is far from a dour affair. At heart, it is still a monster movie and filled with a sense of fun and a great deal of pitch-black humor. In one of its more memorable moments, a milkman is sucked into the rear compartment of his truck as red blood mingles with the white milk from smashed bottles leaking out the back of the truck and streaming down the street. Just after Frank agrees to join the hunt for his baby, the film cuts to the back of an ice cream truck with the words “STOP CHILDREN” emblazoned on it. It’s a movie filled with great kills, a mutant baby—created by make-up effects master Rick Baker early in his career, and plenty of action—and all in a PG rated movie! I’m telling you, the ’70s were wild. It just also happens to have some thoughtful ideas behind it as well.

Which was Larry Cohen’s specialty. Cohen made all kinds of movies, but his most enduring have been his horror films and all of them tackle the social issues and fears of the time they were made. God Told Me To (1976), Q: The Winged Serpent (1982), and The Stuff (1985) are all great examples of his socially aware, low-budget, exploitation filmmaking with a brain and It’s Alive certainly fits right in with that group. Cohen would go on to write and direct two sequels, It Lives Again (aka It’s Alive 2) in 1978 and It’s Alive III: Island of the Alive in 1987 and is credited as a co-writer on the 2008 remake. All these films explore the ideas of parental responsibility in light of the various concerns of the times they were made including abortion rights and AIDS.

Fifty years after It’s Alive was initially released, it has only become more relevant in the ensuing years. Fears surrounding parenthood have been with us since the beginning of time but as the years pass the reasons for these fears only seem to become more and more profound. In today’s world the conversation of the fathers in the waiting room could be expanded to hormones and genetic modifications in food, terrorism, climate change, school and other mass shootings, and other threats that were unknown or at least less of a concern fifty years ago. Perhaps the fearmongering conspiracy theories about chemtrails and vaccines would be mentioned as well, though in a more satirical fashion, as fears some expectant parents encounter while endlessly doomscrolling Facebook or Twitter. Speaking for myself, despite the struggles, the fears, and the sadness that sometimes comes with having children, it’s been worth it. The joys ultimately outweigh all of that, but I understand the terror too. Becoming a parent is no easy choice, nor should it be. But as I look back, I can say that I’m glad we made the choice we did.

I wonder if Frank and Lenore can say the same thing.

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