Interviews
[Interview]: Director James Watkins On Daniel Radcliffe’s First Big Post-‘Harry Potter’ Role, ‘The Woman In Black’!

On February 3 CBS Films releases Hammer’s The Woman in Black, an old fashioned ghost story starring Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter 1-7.2) and Ciaran Hinds (There Will Be Blood).
With a screenplay by Jane Goldman (X Men: First Class, Kick Ass), based on the novel by Susan Hill, the film is directed by James Watkins who helmed Eden Lake in addition to writing The Descent: Part 2. I recently had a chance to speak with Watkins about the film, which is a real departure for him in terms of tone and achieving what he calls “a pervasive sense of dread“.
“In this supernatural thriller, Arthur Kipps (Daniel Radcliffe), a widowed lawyer whose grief has put his career as a lawyer in jeopardy, is sent to a remote village to sort out the affairs of a recently deceased eccentric. But upon his arrival, it soon becomes clear that everyone in the town is keeping a deadly secret. Although the townspeople try to keep Kipps from learning their tragic history, he soon discovers that the house belonging to his client is haunted by the ghost of a woman who is determined to find someone and something she lost…and no one, not even the children, are safe from her vengeance.”
Hit the jump to check out the interview! Had you read the book before you were approached for the project? “I hadn’t. I’d read a couple of other Susan Hill novels but I hadn’t read that one. I was aware that the script was in process and I kind of tracked it. I was curious. I’m a fan of Jane Goldman’s writing and I was wondering what had happened to the script and then they sent it to me.”
Jane Goldman (X Men: First Class, Kick Ass) has some great credits under her belt. When you received that first draft was it exactly what you wanted or did you work with her on shaping it to your vision a little more? “We definitely worked on it. The script she wrote was fantastic. It was scary but I responded to the fact that there was quite a bit more to it. It had an emotional core, it tapped into some real primal fears. Fears of loss, fear of separation, fear of drowning, parents and their children. Some really deep fears, which the best horror films tap into. Once I got involved we worked to keep tightening it. I wanted it to be really spare. To cut back on dialogue and back story and really find the story in the present. That was the biggest change that we made. It was a real pleasure working with Jane. All through pre-production and then she was around for the shoot and involved deeply in the edit as well. It was a real collaboration.”
In terms of horror, you worked on The Descent: Part 2 and directed Eden Lake. How is this project a step forward for you? “I guess what appealed to me is that it’s not a straight horror film. It’s a ghost story. I like the ‘less is more’ aspect about it. I like the fact that you can make a film without hammering the audience over the head with scares. The deepest scares are in your head. What you can shoot is never as scary as what you can imagine, so to go into people’s heads for a deeper chill – that was the great challenge. To get really deep chills and a really pervasive sense of dread. But to do it through suggestion. ‘Eden Lake’ was a very visceral film and this is a different beast.”
This is a Hammer film as well. Did any of those old aesthetics kind of make their way into this one? “It’s interesting. I’m not sure they did consciously. But I’m familiar with all those old films and I think unconsciously those things seep in. If you look at the earlier Hammer films, the rich deep reds and the use of coloration, I didn’t want to make a boring looking kind of off-gray desaturated monochromatic film. I wanted to make a richly saturated negative. I guess in those sort of ways, in terms of the rich look, yes. But I don’t think I was ever really channelling Hammer.”
Was Daniel Radcliffe attached to the project when you came on or were you a part of his casting process? “No he wasn’t. I was definitely a part of that. I met with him and checked it through, I wanted to see if we both saw the film the same way and saw the character in the same way. It was a real challenge, people have this very iconic notion of Dan. I wanted them to revisit him as an actor playing a new character, revisit him anew. Take off the glasses. It was a really interesting challenge and opportunity. I’m really proud of his performance. ”
Not having seen it, is this an ensemble piece? “ Well we have Ciaran Hinds and Janet McTeer who is a wonderful British actress and Roger Allam who is great as well. We’ve got some great British and Irish actors in the film, but Dan carries the film. That’s his responsibility and he achieves it.”
The Woman In Black is in theaters February 3rd.

Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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