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[Interview] Writer/Director Emily Hagins Talks ‘My Sucky Teen Romance’ and What She’s Doing Next!

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It’s difficult to talk about Emily Hagins without talking about her age, which now stands at nineteen. But, as she continues to grow and refine her craft, I’m confident that she’ll gradually step out of being known for what she’s accomplished in spite of her youth. Right now she stands as the wunderkind who wrote and directed three features (Pathogen, The Retelling and My Sucky Teen Romance) between the ages of 12 and 18. Though I would soon expect her emerge into being a conversation piece simply because of the merits of her work alone.

Her new film, My Sucky Teen Romance, represents a significant leap forward in terms of her technical abilities, her knack for cool characters and the development of her voice as a filmmaker. Unlike many horror films submitted for review by more “seasoned” filmmakers it has a clear thematic agenda, emotional hook and consistent characters. A spring 2012 theatrical release is planned for the film, to be followed by DVD and VOD availability.

I sat down with Hagins recently to get a snapshot of her past, present and future. Hit the jump to check out the interview! A lot of films and TV portray the high school experience as all sex, drugs and texting. Your take is much different. Your characters aren’t just tools to provoke or scare parents. Is that your experience in Austin? That’s it’s not that nihilistic? There are still nice kids these days? “One thing about the way I write is I went to a magnet high school and I’m also sort of an awkward person so I gravitate towards really geeky kids. So what I relate to, and what a lot of my friends relate to, is more of just the experience of going to school, doing homework, having your friends over. Rather than drugs and sex everyday. I mean of course there were kids at my school who were like that, but I don’t think that’s what everyone can relate to. And I think those qualities are harder to portray in a way that makes people sympathize with the characters. It’s harder for me when I see a 30 year old [actor] in high school and they’re totally despicable. It’s all about the drama of who’s kissing who. With this story it’s just so focussed on consequences. Which isn’t the case with a lot of teen stories like “Gossip Girl” or ‘Twilight’. ‘Harry Potter’ does but it’s rare.

You made your first feature when you were 12. Were you career driven at that point? “I didn’t really know what I had made with ‘Pathogen’. I just had a lot of fun doing it, I didn’t think it would be any notable accomplishment. And I guess because I knew I could get through it that time it gave me the motivation to continue.

How did you come across the distribution deal with MPI? “They were at our premiere at SXSW. And it’s kind of been in the works since March, but it’s just been a really long process. It’s been really good though. Finally we’re at the point where we’re getting things together for them.

You’re in a good place. You’re in a place where people who have five, six or even ten years on you would like to be in. Are you going to go to college or are you going to put that on hold and concentrate on your career? “Because of my financial situation I would have to got a lot of student loans and right now I feel like if I’m raising money I would rather it be for a film. But I’m not ruling it [college] out in the future, because I do like learning. But I wouldn’t go for film, I would go for something else I wanted to learn”.

What was the movie that made you want to get into all of this? “It was in elementary school. I saw ‘Lord Of The Rings’ in the third grade. I saw it 23 times in the theater, I went every weekend. I wrote a fan letter to Peter Jackson and he wrote me back and told me about Harry [Knowles]. It was so interesting because when I was that age I didn’t know movies like that existed. I liked ‘Spy Kids’ and my parents were good about not showing me movies that were dumbed down for my age. I like the ‘Muppets’ a lot too. They showed me good kids movies.

Aside from Peter Jackson, who are some of the directors you find exciting? “I like Danny Boyle a lot. I think he’s really good at articulating why he does everything in his films. My favorite is probably ‘Millions’. I like Jon Favreau. I love ‘Zathura’, it’s one of my favorite movies. I stand by it.

As far as your next project goes, do you know what that is? “Yes. I’m currently writing. It’s not supernatural at all, but it is a Halloween movie. It’s going to star Tony Vespe, the funny kid with the glasses from MSTR. He’s a good friend of mine, also a really good actor. He has great comedic timing but hasn’t gotten a chance to utilize his dramatic skills. I just want to see him succeed. Anyway, it’s a coming of age story about someone who’s a little too old to be coming of age. Halloween related. I have a portion of the script finished and we’re hoping to film next year. It’s a smaller movie conceptually than anything else I’ve done, so it gives me more storytelling possibilities rather than worrying about how we’re going to do a giant chase scene. I can focus on the actors more. MSTR is very much a plot driven movie with a lot of characters and this is a character driven movie with only a few characters and a very simple plot. But it won’t be boring! I can promise that!

Where do you see yourself 10 years from now? Do you still see yourself doing horror or are there other genres you want to try? “This next movie isn’t horror”.

Even though it’s centered around Halloween? “You would think, but no. I would like to do comedy. Or dramedy even though you’re not supposed to use that term”.

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‘Tarot’ Filmmakers Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg on Practical Creature Effects and ‘Insidious’ Inspirations

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An evil curse gets awakened in Screen Gems horror movie Tarot when a group of friends recklessly ignore a sacred rule: never use someone else’s deck. Writers/Directors Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg unleash a variety of Tarot card-inspired entities on the group through practical effects, and create an unexpected connection to Insidious along the way.

The film comes exclusively to movie theaters on May 3, 2024.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with Cohen and Halberg ahead of Tarot‘s release, where the pair shared more about the film’s practical effects-driven horrors and revealed how Tarot drew from Insidious in a specific way.

To start, though, the filmmakers reveal just how closely their horror movie sticks to the source novel Horrorscope by Nicholas AdamsThe short answer is, well, it doesn’t at all!

Cohen explains, “It’s so different. We never even read the book and took nothing from the book. The only thingthe studio had a title that they liked, and so that’s why there was an association. Then we changed the title. So, now there’s literally zero connection to the book.

“Sony had come to us wanting to make a horror movie about astrology, but there’s nothing that’s inherently scary to us about Zodiac signs. So, we came up with the idea of combining tarot readings and tarot cards with astrology, and that’s what ended up becoming the movie. There’s such incredible iconography in these cards that we really had a plethora of amazing characters to choose from,” Halberg adds.

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Adain Bradley ‘Grant’ and Jacob Batalon ‘Paxton’ in Screen Gems TAROT

With a group of seven friends, expect to see their fates sealed by a number of cards. In other words, expect to see a wide variety of Tarot-inspired creatures tormenting the protagonists. The filmmakers stressed the importance of practical effects for their creatures.

Cohen tells us, “From the get-go, we said every creature is going to be practical. We were thinking of [David] Cronenberg, of Alien and The Thing, and we want our actors responding to real things, not a tennis ball. It always just looks better. You get better performances. With the designs themselves, if you look at the tarot cards and these specific characters, there’s nothing inherently terrifying about them, even though we associate the cards with being supernatural and terrifying. And [it’s] why we partnered with Trevor [Henderson]who was the only designer we met with. We were like, this is our guy because he has this ability to make the familiar feel unnatural.

“His designs are really grounded. I am sure you’ve seen a lot of his stuff where it’s like a hallway, and there’s something there, and something’s off about it, but it really feels like it’s in the space. We knew that he has a special brain for creating unique creatures, and he hadn’t done a movie, which is just shocking to us. Then, we knew that in order to pull that off, we would need a design team with equal skill. That was Dan Martin and his amazing team who worked hand in hand with Trevor to bring those to life.”

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Larsen Thompson ‘Elise’ in Screen Gems TAROT

Great designs and practical effects are one thing, but it also falls to the performers to infuse these monsters with personality to make them memorable. That was also at the forefront of the filmmakers’ minds.

In order for the creatures to translate, underneath all the prosthetics, you have to have great actors,” Cohen confirms. “We met with a lot of people. We were looking for people who were talking to us about the psychology and the movement and how they could move in a way that we hadn’t seen before or incorporate dance. We were looking for those outliers, and basically, everyone we hired approached the part as if there were no makeup or prosthetics. It’s like, ‘I am the Magician, so this is what I want to do. I’m going to have a limp. My body’s going to do this. I feel like my head is hunched.’ And we would watch these actors just embody these roles. It was really just picking great people, honestly. It’s hard to act through prosthetics and create emotion and fear and other things. You have to have an incredible control to be able to do that.”

Halberg elaborates,” Even though we enhanced some of the creatures with visual effects, we didn’t want to rely on that. So we needed people, like Spenser said, who each brought their own unique feel to these characters. They were just as important as all of the other actors in the movie and are so crucial to making sure that these sequences are scary and believable.”

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Humberly González ‘Madeline’ in Screen Gems TAROT

One of the many Tarot creatures in the film is the Magician, who comes with an original song by the film’s composer, Joseph Bishara. While Bishara has delivered no shortage of great contemporary horror scores, including The Conjuring and Malignant, horror fans are likely more familiar with Bishara as the Lipstick Demon in the Insidious franchise. Cohen and Halberg can be counted among Insidious fans, so much so that they wanted an original song from the Lipstick Demon himself.

They explain, “We actually, in prep, we called Joe, and we said, ‘Hey, we’re going to do some kind of an old-timey song there.’ We knew something creepy, very Shining-esque. Then we had the idea to do a song called ‘I Saw You’ to be a pun on that whole thing. And actually use saws as the instrument. We found these YouTube videos, and our DP, I think, Elie [Smolkin] had found these videos of someone playing a saw. We were like, that’s terrifying.

“So we called Joeand we said, ‘You know Tiptoe through the Tulips, how that’s like in Insidious?’ That’s the thing you leave the theater thinking about, and it gets under your skin. We were like, ‘Can you do that for us with an original song?’ He said yes. What you hear in the movie is basically what he played for us the first time. He was just like, ‘I have an idea. I’ll talk to you guys in a week.’ And then that was what we heard, and it was amazing.”

With so many entities and horror sequences, Halberg can’t pick a favorite. Instead, she offers one last tease, “I hope people come away with the realization that each of the sequences is so unique and different, and that each of the creatures is so special because we took a lot of time trying to craft each of these kills or scares to be their own thing and to feel different.

“Hopefully everybody can choose their own favorite.”

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