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Sigourney Weaver Says ‘Alien vs Predator’ Depressed Her

Alien vs Predator

Fox and director Paul W.S. Anderson’s Alien vs Predator is not only the worst film in both the Alien and Predator franchises, but it’s also one of the worst movies ever. Never have I felt so betrayed by a franchise or a studio, and surprisingly it sounds as if Sigourney Weaver felt the same.

The Radio Times caught up with Weaver, star of the first four Alien films, at London Film and Comic Con. When asked if it was her choice to have her character Ripley killed off in Alien3, the actress dropped this bomb:

“Well, yes – because I heard that Fox was gonna do Alien vs Predator. Which really depressed me because I was very proud of the movies.”

Rumors of Alien vs Predator has persisted in the early 90’s, much like New Line Cinema’s Freddy vs Jason. And even though Fox had talked internally about pitting the two franchises against each other, they still managed to squeeze out the 1997 Alien: Resurrection beforehand.

What’s interesting here is that Weaver is acknowledging that Alien3 was supposed to be the final film in Ripley’s arc, and that she perpetuated her demise. What’s even more intriguing is that Weaver is basically stating that she thought the idea of an AvP movie was bad back in 1991!

Anyways, she adds this gem:

“I’ve nothing against building a movie on a video game but at the time, it was, as [Aliens director] Jim Cameron said I think publically, ‘why would you want to do that?'” Weaver recalled. “It’s like making Alien meets the Wolfman.”

They were both as right as the film’s tagline: “Whoever wins, we lose.” Damn straight.


98 Comments
  • concerned citizen

    Whoa whoa whoa! I’ve got no love for Alien vs Predator, but surely you can’t be saying that it’s worse that Alien vs Predator: Requiem? There are large chunks of that film where it seems they forgot to wake up the lighting technician.

    • Philip De Cristofano

      I am thinking the same thing.

    • HumanBeast

      Couldn’t have said it better. JMO, AVP:Requiem was pathetic excuse for a film from the word go (if not for the worst possible script, definitely for its piss poor visual presentation with abysmal lighting/color-grading throughout its run-time)

    • Mistersam

      I do not agree, the first one was a horrible rewriting of the first resident evil script. Requiem wasnt perfect, but it was a better movie.

      • Daniel Anderson

        I agree, it wasn’t the best film, but it was definitely better than the first. The fact the predator knew how to kill aliens/humans alone made it easier to watch.

    • Jamroast

      Darker lighting = Cheaper special effects.

  • Blade

    I never really understood all hate for AVP. I guess if I took things a little too seriously I could get it 😉 but it was just fan service to see these creatures fight each other, and that’s what we got. Same with Freddy vs Jason. I liked them both. AVP:R on the other hand…

    • brewers_rule

      Agree totally. Considering the mashup films being forced out these days (Batman/Superman? Wouldn’t that have been panned overwhelmingly back when AVP came out?), it’s not that bad. Perhaps it could have been better written given the comics’ success at the time it seems natural to me. And FVJ was way better than the reviews.

    • John

      Exactly. I cant hate these films. The AvP films were a mindless monster romp and I fucking dig that.

  • I Am Colossus

    Mmmm I’m not sure I can agree with anyone on this, I remember this movie coming out and people being happy as hell with the result. My circle were sci-fi fans we loved how this all tied together. It took awhile for the action to get started, but was pretty cool when it did get flowing. This movie had a cool ending, which was botched in the first 5 min. of the sequel. Still it was way better than any of the Resident Evil films. P.W.S. Anderson movies suck now, and I feel this was his last good film. Bloody Disgusting is a sight that recently articulated, “in defense of Doom”. But because an actress who stands behind the ultra boring, ” Alien 3″, says it sucks, they’re willing to throw the film under the bus. What the fuck man.

    • GinsuVictim

      “P.W.S. Anderson movies suck now”
      Event Horizon too? I haven’t seen it since opening weekend, but it seemed alright back then.
      Of course, I actually enjoy the Resident Evil movies for what they are: fun crap.

      • I Am Colossus

        I said they suck now, as in, the movies after AvP are terrible. Resident Evil sucked and so did the sequels. There is more to action/sci-fi than the Matrix. Pandorum, Pacific Rim, Avatar, Aliens, Predator, these are movies that are not a Matrix rip offs. That being said Event Horizon, Mortal Kombat, these are good movies for the dumb action, horror movie fun they are, like AvP. But my feeling is all the films afterward sucked.

        • GinsuVictim

          Ok, I read “now” as in, “they were good then but suck now”
          Gotcha.

    • futureblues

      I haven’t seen ‘AVP’ since it came out on DVD, but I remember it being a good, fun popcorn movie that I highly enjoyed. I can see how people can disparage it for not being a good Alien or Predator sequel, but if you view it as its own film, it was good, harmless fun.

      Also, very good point that it is strange for Bloody Disgusting to defend ‘Doom’ but attack ‘AVP’.

      • Ridiculous

        Torrents…it wont hurt you you know… or… some free online watching…

  • Daniel Anderson

    Was a better comic than video game. And I LOOOOOVED the video games (except for 3 simply because multiplayer relied on who can press E first). Requiem did it better than the first, I wish they did a standalone instead of a sequel as they originally planned though. The first AVP was garbage. Only 8 minutes of Aliens and Predators fighting? Meh. Paul WS Anderson did enough damage that he had to make up reasons for why things happened in the movie (really? they doped up the queen to drop so many eggs / increase the metamorphosis of the aliens? Suuuure, would’ve been better if you actually showed it).

  • Adam Lee Flaskamp

    Only reason why I didn’t like this film. The humans they ruin the fight it’s suppose to he alien vs predator, not alien vs everyone else.

    • Ridiculous

      It would make a movie quite boring, but I agree… Why it would make movie boring ? None of the characters actually talks except humans…all movie basically would be just sound effects…and silent visualization of CGI, no dialogs…no monologs…Don’t know if that would catch any rating…I don’t know.

  • Wolf-man

    Considering how bad Alien3 and Alien: Resurrection are, you doesn’t really have room to criticize.
    Also, ” it’s also one of the worst movies ever” Really? Way to over exaggerate. The second one was much worse. AvP is much more entertaining than Alien3 or Alien: Resurrection

  • Wolf-man

    Considering how bad Alien3 and Alien: Resurrection are, she doesn’t really have room to criticize.
    Also, ” it’s also one of the worst movies ever” Really? Way to over exaggerate. The second one was much worse. AvP is much more entertaining than Alien3 or Alien: Resurrection

    • Ian ‘link’ Fletcher

      Both of them were better than AvP though? Now which AvP is worse is something that you can have a real debate about!

  • KittenBlood

    ”Alien vs Predator is not only the worst film in both the Alien and Predator franchises…”
    So, AvP: Requiem is better than AvP?
    I think i just threw up in my mouth a little.

    • Mightygil

      I know. I remember being excited for AvP:R cuz it was gonna be rated R and I enjoyed the first. Just goes to show even violence can’t save some movies

      • KittenBlood

        Maybe the gore could have saved it. You know, if we could have actually seen it.
        AvP:R has the worst lighting I have ever seen in a movie.
        It’s a shame. The AvP films have good ideas, but they’re marred by bad acting, and bad writing, and bad directing… And bad lighting…
        Credit where it’s due though, the effects in both films, and sets in the first, were pretty great. When the directors let us see them, at least.

        The AvP films are such a simple concept. They’re so easy to get right.
        Even if you want to keep the series kind of B-movie, cheap, and sleazy.
        Just throw Nimrod Antal, David Twohy, Christian Alvart, or Marcus Dunstan behind it.
        If you want something a little more unique (as all of the films in the Alien and Predator franchises (AvP films notwithstanding) have had their directors’ identities firmly burned into them) then try hiring someone like Rob Zombie or David Cronenberg
        Hell, if it was still the 90’s i’d suggest hiring John Carpenter or Paul Verhoeven!
        Even wildcards like Ryûhei Kitamura, Alexandre Aja, or Jonathan Glazer could be interesting.

        There are just so many great directors who could work magic with an AvP film, but the studio heads picked the Strause Brothers and Paul W.S. Anderson!!
        Granted, after Event Horizon, I would have had faith in Paul W.S. Anderson making a decent AvP movie, but when they gave the sequel to the Strause Brothers it became clear they’d given up on trying to make the series good. I just wish they’d at least made it interesting.

  • brunopessoa

    you not alone on this.

  • Michael Ridenour

    James Cameron even enjoyed the first AvP. And the second takes way to much flack. I enjoyed it.

  • Ridiculous

    But I love the AvP and especially the second part….two titans…c’mon…much more realistic scenarios than a simple mere human against one of them which is way more questionable and unreal to survive…the main protagonist would die just as everyone else there…and thanks God she did die actually, and only a clone was rebuilt…(I forgot the story about her clone, was it DNA implanted in her or something ?)

  • kmtb

    I don’t get the hatred of these movies. I’m a massive fan of the Alien series as far as to say its the best movies series ever. Alien/s are damn near perfect and Alien 3 for the life of me I can’t figure out why people dislike it. Everything after that is fan service and is all fine by me. A:R AVP/R are fun if not important stories in the same universe. Prometheus is IMO right up there with the best of the Sci Fi genre. Can’t wait for Alien Isolotion 2, P2 and Neil Blomkamps Alien. If they continue this universe in any way Ill enjoy because I just want more Xeno action no matter what form it takes.

    • Daniel Anderson

      I enjoyed Alien 3. I even liked Alien: Resurrection. Wasnt’ the best flick, but it was entertaining. However a new Aliens the ommits alien 3/resurrection should be interesting.

      • kmtb

        I still think people took his wording the wrong way. It sounded like to me that he wants to make a spiritual successor to Aliens but A3/R would still be cannon. Her clone would be the Ripley in the movie, possibly on earth as A:R alluded to. Not Ideal but I trust NB either way, he hasn’t let me down yet.

        • Daniel Anderson

          Regardless of how it goes, it’ll be good to have Weaver and Beihn fighting xeno’s again. Should be fun.

  • EvilHead1981

    AVP is a braindead family friendly monster mash-up. AVP:R is a piece of shit wannabe slasher with some of the most cringeworthy characters ever written in a horror movie.

  • gamera87

    “she perpetuated her demise” – that word does not mean what you think it does.

    • Billy Pop

      No man! You don’t understand, she constantly moved towards her demise. Lol. Ya, that was bad writing.

  • Darth_Siskel

    Am I the only man on the planet who liked AvP?

    • MulderIsBack

      No, you are not. The concept was there, and I enjoy P. Anderson’s directing to be up front and honest. I always have liked his style. He’s a fun-movie director. Mortal Kombat, Soldier, Event Horizon, the 1st and 4th Res Evil’s, even the Musketeers had a fun, different vibe to it. Anyhow, I enjoyed it. Was expecting a more violent take, but it’s still fun to watch. Could have been better in places, but I enjoyed it.
      I actually REALLY REALLY like number 2 though. I don’t know why, but It reminds me of those 80’s flicks like the BLOB. And the violence was there. I watch AVP2 drunk all the time. And love every moment of it.

      • Daniel Anderson

        I enjoyed AvP2 far more than AvP. It had much more Aliens and Predator fights compared to the first, a badass predator that didn’t mess around was good to see. I think it did pretty well for what the directors were given to work with.

    • Mightygil

      nope I’m definitely a fan

    • DBZEROGRAVITY

      no I actually like AVP. every time is comes on FX I find myself watching it or at least turning it on. I hated Requiem though…

    • Nahuel Benvenuto

      they are terrible movies, and the monsters act totally out of character

      • Darth_Siskel

        N-n-n-no, not Requiem. Just the first

    • Raiden

      I like the first one as a major guilty pleasure. . . though there will never come a day I will ever admit it was a good movie.

      Requiem is awful.

  • SVSLee

    I don’t mind AvP. It was well made. It just needed another 20 minutes of character development squeezed into the middle somewhere. Once the main action started, there was no let-up (and not in a good way). Aliens had that little pause for breath between Drake’s death and Hudson’s breath. AvP could have done with a little section like that. But on the whole, still a reasonable film. It’s entertaining even on multiple watches, and I’ll tell you something; IMO it’s still miles better than the atrocious Alien Resurrection (starring Sigourney Weaver).

  • James Sunderland

    Ridley Scott and James Cameron discussed about making Alien 5 together, but Fox wanted to make Alien vs Predator! What the fudge…

    • Dev

      It’s FOX, what do you expect? They are only ever interested in the bottom line, and they knew that appealing to idiot fanboys with AVP would make them a packet. And they were right. And that’s why we had the sequel.

  • Jonathan Larsson

    The first and greatest mistake of AVP was to make the movies take place in modern times instead of the future. I don’t think it would’ve made it any more canon, it just could’ve been more acceptable. AVP 1 & 2 fucked up the chronologies.

  • Halloween_Vic

    I like AVP honestly!!!!

  • Feonix

    I love Alien – Resurrection for so many reasons. Each movie has it’s merits, and they far outweigh any “flaws”. You just have to compare them to ANY other movie in the Sci-Fi genre to see the high standard they achieved.
    The Alien Vs. Predator movies on the other hand.. just a bit of fun. I think they are worth watching for the pure entertainment value, without getting too serious about their story arc or lore.

    • Yea loved Ron Perlman in Alien 4

  • GunsOfNavarone

    I don’t necessarily think the concept of Aliens Vs Predator was a bad idea, I just think it was handled poorly. Paul WS Anderson isn’t the best of directors, nor are the Strause brothers. But handed to a more competent director, it could have been something special.

    What I find a bit hypocritical of Weaver is that she thought Aliens Vs Predator was a bad idea, yet she didn’t think Resurrection was a bad idea ? If she’d have respected the movies as much as she said she did and she knew they were continuing on without Giger’s help, wouldn’t that have factored into the equation ?

    • Daniel Anderson

      Yeah that director didn’t do to well, although it had some of the main fundamentals that are throughout the rest of the movies, he just took it a bit far. AvP was a GREAT comic. Had some trippy concepts but overall did well IMO.

      • GunsOfNavarone

        Yeah and AvP was on the cards ever since the trophy room in Predator 2 which to this day is still cool. It was just ruined by poor direction / lack of gore / poor screenplay. However I will say this, give me a Predator movie based entirely in Antarctica because the sequence where the 3 predators are killing everyone during the blizzard was awesome.

        • Daniel Anderson

          Yeah, but also went against the fact that predators prefer heat. Didn’t make much sense to me, blood on the snow does have a certain chilling effect (punny). I would love to see AvP rebooted and done right, most definitely. It would have to be in the future and be during a colonial marines invasion to an alien hive of some sort. We need predaliens, praetorians and enough facehugging to leave us breathless (punny#2).

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Yeah, but then Predator 2 kind of rubbished that lore to a sense as they found that the predator was using the meat-locker for food / as a base. I’m trying to think of a setting that would set itself apart from what has already been done. Predators, although watchable, too closely mimicked Predator 1 and was inferior in every way. It needs to be an environment that is completely different, something that feels fresh.

          • Daniel Anderson

            Predators was a fun predator movie, but should not be considered a sequel. There were many small things that I took issue with but was a good beer/pizza movie. I didn’t even realize the meatlocker was supposed to be the predators home base, I thought it was just a trap setup.

          • GunsOfNavarone

            Yeah I’m sure Gary Busey says to Danny Glover that every so many days, it comes back to feed or something. It was using the meat locker for something anyway, and they tracked it back from traces of cattle blood being at the scenes of the crimes. Anyway, with any luck we should have a good Predator movie on the way soon, considering Shane Black is on writing duties.

          • Daniel Anderson

            Looks like I need to rewatch that title. Good chat.

    • I completely agree, a truly awesome film could be made with these franchises with the right film makers.

    • Raiden

      If they made a few more Alien and Predator movies as buildup and then had them crossover, like the Avengers universe, I could see that working. We could have an awesome R-rated Sci-Fi expanded universe. It’s a shame that’ll probably never happen, not for a long time at least.

      • GunsOfNavarone

        Yeah, sadly R-rated movies are almost non-existent these days. In fact, the most bloodshed we see are in TV shows where they’re not susceptible to profit i.e. getting people in cinema seats.

        • Raiden

          Kingsman? The upcoming Deadpool movie?

          • GunsOfNavarone

            2 in how long ? I did say ‘almost’.

  • Flu-Like Symptoms

    She’s not the only one.

    • Dev

      Aye, those films depressed the shit out of me too.

  • trob6969

    I really liked AVP and AVP Reqium…I don’t see how she can criticize AVP when Alien Resurrection was utter garbage in comparison.

    • Nahuel Benvenuto

      avp requiem was so bad it made avp look like alien, but both are terrible “movies”, Alien resurrection is a masterpiece in comparision

      • trob6969

        You really feel that way?!…Lol…wow

        • Matthew Turner

          Most people do. The strause brothers used b actors and had no lighting in one of their scenes leaving the viewer confused. With ARes at least u have ron pearlman .sigourney . Brad dourif. All great actors.

          • trob6969

            Definitely not “most people”; i havnt come across a single person that had anything good to say about Alien R, everybody says it was a stupid movie.The choice of actors wasn’t the problem, it was the ridiculous plot. The only complaint I’ve heard about AVP Reqium, which is absolutely justified, is how f**cked up the lighting was throughout the movie.

          • Matthew Turner

            I dont think u check out what ppl say in imdb then. There are soo many flaws in avp.r its hard to start. And its not just the lighting.. bad corny dialogue and acting and a plot that is completly mismashed and incoherent. Alien res on all alien boards is considered to not be the best alien film but you can be sure it gets much much more praise than that abomination.

    • ThunderDragoon

      Exactly. Resurrection is horrible and AVP is so much better.

      • Evan3

        You can make that argument. But you would be wrong. Resurrection > Alien3 > AvP> Requiem.

    • Robadude32

      I disagree with you as Ms. Weaver would have a commanding opinion on the whole franchise.

  • Nahuel Benvenuto

    it is such a good and wasted oportunnity, the only thing decent to come out of the avp franchise was the second game of PC, and it wasnt that great, they should give the franchise one more chance and make one GOOD movie, in the future, in space

  • A2VL

    Aliens vs Predator: Requiem is the worst of the franchise.

    • Evan3

      Seconded!

  • Evan3

    I knew I’d see a lot of people unfairly bashing Alien: Resurrection… but seriously, what about Alien3. That is a terrible turd. Whoever’s fault(s) it was, it’s easily the most unwatchable of the series. Yes, we all love David Fincher now, but I think his later success has led to people excusing or even liking Alien3 when, in reality, it is the worst of the quadrilogy.

  • Jamie B

    Predator is a hunting alien that travels far and wide to test its abilities on new prey, the Xenomorph easily fits into that universe as a strange, dark take on aliens, the Wolfman does not. The AVP concept is incredible, like a sci-fi/horror fanboys wet dream, Wolfman would only work against similar monsters like vampires, zombies etc. Its a hard concept to pull off well, maybe a double team of Frank Darabont and Christian Alvart could do something with it.

    • Dev

      She was clearly referring to the disparity in quality between the two franchises – Predator was never on any level close to those early Alien films, or even the later ones to be honest. It’s fun, sure, but it’s not Alien. The AVP films were predictably dreadful, and only ever would be. And, as someone who grew up obsessed with those films, I can tell you that it was never a ‘wet dream’ of mine either. I had low expectations of Anderson AVP film and the reality was even worse. The second film was just offensive.

      • Jamie B

        Thats fair, Alien was a very well made horror film in space, predator was just an 80’s Arnie flick, but the creature itself has potential to be more. I’ve always though an original-ish way to go about it would be documentary style, imagine Attenborough’s Planet Earth but on some harsh alien planet.

        • Dev

          I think Predators was enough of an exploration into the idea to be honest, and I quite enjoyed it. I enjoyed the other two Predator films as well, but it just isn’t as rich an idea as Alien is.

          By “documentary style” it sounds like you mean found-footage, which has been done to death by this point really. We’ve had Predator in the jungle, in the city, and in an alien jungle. I don’t even count the two abominable AVP films in either franchise to be honest. They don’t even respect the Alien canon to begin with.

  • PsychoMantis18

    Ironic that Brad hated AvP as he’s the kind of self-entitled meat-head that films like this get made for.

  • Gabbi Cordero

    it’s no secret that the avp movies were a disgrace but how convenient is it that the “mother of sci-fi” uses them as scapegoat to hide her own failures with the franchise? maybe next time she’s throwing stones she’ll do so from inside the glass houses that are alien 3 & resurrection, which by the way she also co-produced.

    • Raiden

      Alien 3 does have it’s moments. . . so I’m hesitant to call it a failure. But we can all agree Resurrection sucked.

      • Matt Fors

        resurrection is my favorite one

      • Brodequin

        I love all four…

    • michaeldal65

      “her own failures”? Resurrection I grant you but everyone knows Alien 3 was taken from Fincher and tinkered to death.

      • Brodequin

        Not everyone, dude. Many fans (including me) knows something completely different:
        Alien 3 is a masterpiece…

      • Gabbi Cordero

        and by that reasoning resurrection was taken from joss whedon and tinkered to death. doesn’t hide the fact that everybody’s hero starred in both part 3 & 4 and had a part to play in its development, leading to sigourney’s own failures. next time check the facts and in the meantime enjoying a healthy serving of sour grapes

  • Bryan Gibson

    Sounds like a lot of hoopla taken out of context and made into something it isn’t because the author needs to express his own disgust with the film. I’m not defending the film, but I didn’t mind it or Requiem or Resurrection.

  • Alexander Dinamarca

    Now I wonder what would happen if a Xenomorph was born from a Werewolf.

    • Evan3

      PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE THIS MOVIE IMMEDIATELY!

  • Brodequin

    AvP: fantastic comics, great video games and dull movies…

  • zigwardScissorHands

    It depressed me too. I remember trying to rationalize AVP when it first came out. It’s a movie I wanted to see since I was a kid and I can’t remember a time where I was more disappointed in a long awaited movie. Looking back I’m not sure what I expected. I guess I wanted the story from the comic but even then its a VS movie about monsters, that sort of thing is rarely an A class affair you know? In my opinion AVP: Requiem was even worse. How that’s possible is hard for me to understand. I really like Alien 3, especially the workprint version. Even though I don’t like Alien Resurrection that much, I think it has a bit of strange charm I can’t quite put my finger on. In my opinion the Alien franchise, even at its worse is so much better than AVP.

    • Evan3

      I too tried to justify AvP for so long. But my confidence was shaken as my best friend (also in denial) and I kept recounting the awfulness after the credits rolled. And then, each time I saw it since, I realized that not only was it bad… it was BORING! Ugh.

  • Suna

    Not everyone agrees with you AVP haters. I love the concept and the movies. Sorry, if you didn’t like it then move on because there is something for everyone out there in movie land.

  • Caasi Seyer

    Remember in Predator 2, when Danny Clover enters the Predator ship and on a wall there are some hunt trophies, and one of them was the head of an Alien? I thought it would be a great idea to have them fight it out, but without humans involved. Predator 2 by the way could’ve been much, much, better, but definitely much worse too.

  • John von Shepard

    I really like this film, hell I have a soft spot for all the alien/predator/avp movies except alien 3. The thing that really struck me as special though in requiem was when they suddenly killed the female love interest, that made me very happy. Finally! I almost shouted, what makes the female love interest so important that she must always survive, and have others risk their lives for her. Nothing, that’s what, it was a great way to subvert our expectations, which they did repeatedly in that movie and why it sticks out so much to me

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