Interviews
[Interview] ‘Let the Corpses Tan’ Directors Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani
Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani, the duo behind the stunning Giallo inspired Amer as well as The Strange Color of Your Body’s Tears, will throw glitter and gold all over the Toronto International Film Festival with their Let the Corpses Tan (Laissez bronzer les cadavres!), which premieres tonight at the ongoing event.
Adapted from Jean-Patrick Manchette and Jean-Pierre Bastid’s 1971 crime thriller, Let the Corpses Tan takes place during a Mediterranean summer where 250 kg of gold is stolen by a gang. Their perfect hideout turns to bloodshed when surprise guests compromise their plan turning it into a gruesome battlefield. Elina Löwensohn, Stéphane Ferrara, and Bernie Bonvoisin star in the film said to be “relentless and mind-blowing.”
Cattet and Forzani make incredibly complicated films and Let the Corpses Tan is no different. While the duo’s preparation included extremely detailed notes in the script, they had to think on the fly with this new film.
“For Amer and The Strange Color of Your Body’s Tears, all of the shots, sound effects, the music, and editing are all in the script,” they revealed in our exclusive interview. “But for Let the Corpses Tan we had to prepare a lot right on set in Corsica during the pre-production because the space wasn’t exactly what we had in mind when writing the script. We had to adapt what we wanted to do in the location.”
It gets even more complicated, they add: “Since the set wasn’t accessible by trucks or cars, but just by helicopter (and no electricity, water…nothing but rocks!), we had to get creative to make this adventure possible. So the main focus of our preparation was based on this challenge – we had to think about every single detail in advance because once the shooting would begin we would be trapped and couldn’t improvise or add more material!
“In terms of preparing the shots, we kept the same high rhythm as on our previous films (an average of 30 shots per day) but for some specific shots (with stunts and pyrotechnic effects), we had to take a bit longer. But everyone was really efficient so we managed to shoot everything we needed.”
Speaking of the locations, “The main ghost town is located in Corsica,” they explain. “we had been scouting for nearly a year before choosing this one. We went to the South of France (where the original book takes place), Italy, Sicilia…this set was the one because it was surrounded by the sea. All the other ones were surrounded by rocks like in classical westerns… and here the color of the desert was blue!”

This is the duo’s first shift from Giallo, and this time they looked to Mario Bava and Andrea Bianchi’s films, while also attempting to tackle Italian Westerns.
“When we read the book, we thought Mario Bava’s Rabid Dogs would be a reference for the main mood of the film but in fact Andrea Bianchi’s Cry of a Prostitute was closer to what we wanted to do, a kind of western/poliziottesco set in a Mediterranean location, far from big cities. Also the Italian Westerns’ mood, especially Keoma – we love the Castellari way of directing – or Giulio Questi’s Django Kill…If You Live, Shoot!
For the sound design Bullet Ballet from Tsukamoto.”
There an intense fire pit sequence early in Let the Corpses Tan that sets the stage for the entire film. Here the duo explains building that masterful sequence that everyone will soon be talking about:
“The atmosphere comes from the way it is described in the book – a fire pit is set in a dark basement. So we wanted to do a contrast between the extreme daylight of the film (full of natural colors) and an extreme darkness (as if it happens during the night). This sequence might bring to mind the westerns’ nocturnal outside fire sequences (or slasher sequences around a fire at Crystal Lake!) but setting this during the day allows us to bring a fantastic atmosphere to this scene.”
Speaking of shooting during the day, it’s one of the biggest lessons the duo learned over the course of their career:
“The way to shoot fast and to use only natural light for outside locations (we always work with the same crew, so we have built an efficient system film by film). We were a bit afraid to shoot sequences with gunfights because we only used knives and razors in our previous films, but we tried to keep our spirit through sharp editing and heavy sound design. And for the final duel, we went back to a mood very close to the short film “O is for Orgasm” we made for The ABC’s of Death.
While the duo hopes to complete their Giallo trilogy, their next film will be a pinku anime! Unfortunately, a slasher isn’t in the cards. “It’s not in our future projects, but why not, we never know… something like Cruising could be fun! And when you see projects like It Follows or the Maniac remake, slasher films have real possibilities!”
As for their favorite horror films: Profondo Rosso, Black Sabbath, Zombi 2, and of course, A Nightmare On Elm Street.
Let the Corpses Tan will premiere tonight at the Midnight Madness program within the Toronto International Film Festival.
Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.


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