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Rob Zombie on How Terry Reid’s Music Helped Resurrect ‘The Devil’s Rejects’ [Interview]

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Rob Zombie is back and he’s bringing his homicidal Firefly Family with him in 3 From Hell, debuting this week in theaters via Fathom. That’s a pretty neat trick, considering that all those characters died in a hail of gunfire at the end of their last film, The Devil’s Rejects, way back in 2005.

In a new interview with Bloody-Disgusting, we asked Rob Zombie about what it took to resurrect the characters, behind the screen and also on the page. And it turns out we have none other than English rock star Terry Reid to thank for the return of the Fireflies!

“I’ve always loved the characters. They were always close to me,” Zombie says. “I always thought about resurrecting them but I never did, obviously, for that amount of time. I would always move on to another project. But about three years ago the idea just struck me and I couldn’t get away from it. I just had to do it, or thought it was the right time to do it.”

“So I went to Lionsgate, spoke to them. They were excited about bringing it back and from there it was a couple more years until it was finally all put together and ready to go, but that’s when it started. About three years ago I think,” Zombie adds.

But the question remains, what gave Zombie that idea in the first place?

“It’s weird,” Zombie says, “but whenever I would listen to Terry Reid, there’s a lot of Terry Reid songs in The Devil’s Rejects, off his album Seed of Memory. But there’s a couple of songs that I didn’t use, that every time I would hear them, they sounded like songs that I should use, again, for the next.”

“I would hear the songs and I would so closely link his voice and that album with the characters that I would just start seeing images. And I started just coming up with these ideas how they could have survived and what could have happened. It was not like a full story arc or anything, it was just basic moments, and that’s what sort of got the ball rolling,” Zombie explains.

Terry Reid’s songs “Brave Awakening,” “To Be Treated Rite” and “Seed of Memory” all appeared on the Devil Reject‘s soundtrack. 3 From Hell features Reid’s songs “The Frame” and “Faith to Arise.”

But Zombie doesn’t give all the credit for 3 From Hell to Reid. He says he would have moved on from the characters if the fans hadn’t stayed interested after all these years.

“I never had a plan,” Zombie says. “I mean, I never made a movie where I thought ‘Oh, for sure I’m going to make another one’ as far as a sequel goes. It seems like every time every time I made a movie, that was the end. And with this one [The Devil’s Rejects] I thought that was the end, but I never could get away from it because both House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil’s Rejects seem to grow in popularity every year. So it wasn’t something that I’m thinking about that nobody else is thinking about.”

“It just seemed like every year that went by that the characters became more well known, the movies became more popular, and I would see every year tons of people dressed as the characters for Halloween and everybody would show me their tattoos of the characters and the t-shirts and the action figures. It would just never go away, so they’d never leave my consciousness. I think [that] played more into the idea of keeping it alive for me,” Zombie says. “If it had been a movie from 15 years ago that nobody was really talking about, then I probably would have just moved on in my mind, you know?

Of course, bringing the Firefly Family back on-screen is one thing. Bringing them back from the dead after they were shot what looks like hundreds of times is something else. Zombie had to write them back to life, but it wasn’t quite as complicated as the fan theories made it out to be. No magic, no actual devil, just incredibly good luck.

“I always thought that it was like they got shot a ton of times but somehow they survived. You know, they’re in a hospital forever, they’re in comas, they’re a mess, but somehow they survived,” Zombie explains.

“I never thought like, ‘Oh, it’s supernatural,’ or some other crazy thing brought them back to life. I knew it had to fit into a realistic scenario on some level,” Zombie adds. “You know, anyone can put onto that some other meaning, like ‘Oh, they’re the devil’s rejects, they got kicked out of Hell’ and this and that, and that’s cool, but I always thought it had to be more reality-based. That’s why the beginning of the movie [3 From Hell] I did in a documentary fashion to help make it feel legitimate.”

You can see The Firefly Family’s return for yourself, in theaters, from September 16-18, via Fathom Events!

William Bibbiani writes film criticism in Los Angeles, with bylines at The Wrap, Bloody Disgusting and IGN. He co-hosts three weekly podcasts: Critically Acclaimed (new movie reviews), The Two-Shot (double features of the best/worst movies ever made) and Canceled Too Soon (TV shows that lasted only one season or less). Member LAOFCS, former Movie Trivia Schmoedown World Champion, proud co-parent of two annoying cats.

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How ‘The Devil’s Bath’ Evolved From Courtroom Drama into Harrowing Psychological Period Piece

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 The Devil’s Bath, the latest from The Lodge and Goodnight Mommy filmmakers Veronika Franz and Severin Fiala, mines its horror from history. The psychological period film, set in 1750 Austria, follows the disturbing unraveling of a woman pushed toward evil, but it initially began life as a courtroom drama.

The Devil’s Bath is now available to stream on Shudder and stars Anja Plaschg as Agnes, a deeply religious woman embarking on a new life as a newlywed. But poor Agnes struggles to adjust to her new life. She finds herself increasingly trapped in a murky and lonely path leading to evil thoughts until the possibility of committing a shocking act of violence seems like the only way out of her inner prison. 

Veronika Franz and Severin Fiala get viewers intimately acquainted with Agnes and her fragile mental state, delivering unrelenting, melancholic experiential horror. But the filmmakers originally had a very different journey in mind for Agnes’ story, loosely inspired by Ewa Lizlfellner and other 18th century women that went to extremes to deal with depressive illness then coloquially known as “the Devil’s Bath.” Instead of following Agenes’ daily life, the filmmaking duo considered setting her story within the courtroom.

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Anja Plaschg in Veronika Franz and Severin Fiala’s THE DEVIL’S BATH.Photo Credit: Courtesy of Shudder. A Shudder Release.

Fiala says, “The reason why we conceived it originally as a courtroom drama is that what interested us in the first place was historical research by Kathy Stuart, who is an American historian, and she had all those trial interrogation protocols of women murdering just to be executed, which is, as you know, called suicide by proxy. We’re fascinated by those protocols because they basically give a voice to people who otherwise would’ve had none. Like in Austria, there are no recordings of, let’s say, farmers at the time because history just wasn’t interested in them. Even worse for women where many of the things that our film talks about had not been researched because there was just no interest. So, the rare opportunity of reading those protocols and having those women basically directly talk to us because they talk about the life, the fears, the sorrows, their crimes, of course. That felt really unique and touched us emotionally greatly. We felt, which may be stupid, but we felt touched by this interrogation; we’ll just have this interrogation. We basically used lots of the material and lots of the dialogue from those protocols. When we then read the first draft of the script, it was boring because it was not like somebody directly talking to you; it was like observing two people talk to each other, and it had lost this direct emotional impact.

“That’s when we asked ourselves, ‘Okay, how can we recreate this impact, and how can we externalize her inner horrors and her inner demons?’ That’s how it evolved into the film that it ended up.

Franz adds, “Also we were interested in showing the depression of Agnes rather than just talking about it because in a courtroom drama, she would’ve told you, ‘Okay, I didn’t want to stay alive, or something. But we were really interested in showing it, making the audience feel how it felt.”

While shifting Agnes’ story from the courtroom into her waking nightmare of a life shifts the film closer to horror, Franz and Fiala don’t really consider it as such. But they’re not concerned about genre labels either.

Fiala reflects, I think as filmmakers, we often ask, ‘Is this a horror film? Is it this? Is it that?’ But those labels are put on the film by producers or distributors at the very end after everything is done, and we never think about it when we start. When we start, we’re just interested in something, and we pursue that, and it might lead us in different directions. For us, it’s not so unusual that our interests shifted, and we slowly, only slowly, found out how to tell the story, at least in our minds, most effectively. That always takes time, but it’s good time because it’s an interesting topic.”

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Photo Credit: Courtesy of Shudder. A Shudder Release

The Devil’s Bath is deeply rooted in history and historical accounts, but it’s a fictionalized depiction that gave the filmmakers some creative leeway. Franz and Fiala still approached their film with the utmost care.

“We did a huge amount of research, Fiala explains. “There were actually three historians involved, researching different aspects of life back then. Like, let’s say, medical procedures, approach to religion, daily life, and exorcism. All of that stuff has been researched, but there are not too many sources because history was not too interested in the specifics of ordinary people and women’s history. That automatically created some leeway because there are so few sources that our historians said, ‘It could have been like that, and maybe this is just a singular event, so you are free as long as it feels like we had so much information that I think we were able to judge if it felt plausible or not. If it felt plausible, that was in some cases good enough for us because there is no way of 100% saying it was like that or it was not.”

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