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“The Boulet Brothers’ Dragula” – Dracmorda and Swanthula Preview Season 5’s New Chapter

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The Boulet Brothers Dracula Season 5

“The Boulet Brothers’ Dragula” has quickly become a Halloween season staple on the horror streaming service Shudder. Luckily, the brand new season kicks off right on Halloween, ushering in a new chapter for the series.

Season 5 debuts on Tuesday, October 31, on Shudder and AMC+, with new episodes airing weekly. 

The fifth season promises to be the biggest and baddest yet, boasting a brand-new state-of-the-art set, an army of new talented crew members, the most diverse cast in the show’s history, and the Boulet Brothers‘ themselves, Dracmorda and Swanthula, taking over as the series directors.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with the Boulet Brothers just ahead of the new season, where they teased what to expect from the new chapter and the easy transition into directing.

Dracmorda says of the new season, “When we first started the show, we weren’t exactly sure what was going to happen with it. We made the show from scratch. It didn’t have a network, it didn’t have a production partner or anything, and we just made this dream out of nothing. The first chapter, we call it, evolved from that and morphed until now where we have a permanent home on AMC and Shudder, and it’s such a different beast. We did our Titan season, which was an all-star season, so it was the best of the best competing, and we found a winner there, so we feel like that was the winner of chapter one. Now, we want to move on to update the format a bit, so that’s what we meant by chapter two. Some of the things you’ll see that are a little different is how the floor shows are presented. In the past, it was very cut like a music video, very quick cut. Sometimes, people said it was hard to see the whole outfit. Well, now you’re going to see every single episode. You will see the competitors’ full looks, top to bottom, walking the runway. We actually have a Lazy Susan circular spinning device, so when they first come out, you get to see every competitor, full 360 top to bottom, so there’s no chance that you’ll miss the details of their outfit this time around.”

In other words, expect much of what fans already loved, but with an even stronger emphasis on the artistry and revelry with the Boulet Brothers now directing the series, too. 

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“We previously hadn’t directed the show in the past,” Dracmorda explains. “We’ve always produced it. We’re the showrunners, so we’re very hands-on, but we weren’t literally in the director’s chair directing everything. This year, we were able to do that. Part of that was this difference on the floor show. We’re putting an emphasis on the art, the crafting, and the drag. We wanted to make sure we were behind the cameras this time and presenting the competitors’ drag exactly how we wanted to.”

Swanthula adds, “I think another aspect of that is after some years of experience, we’re heavily involved with the editing as well. When we watch the floor shows now and when we see the competitors performing live on stage, it’s almost like we’re watching through the camera lens. We know what looks great, how they can best be featured, how they can highlight what they’ve created, their personalities, and how amazing their makeup looks. It’s just much more intuitive to direct them in that way because, hi, we’re on the camera a lot of times, too, but we also know what we like when it comes to the edit. To elaborate on what Drac said, that music video style is still represented in every floor show. It starts off in a very high fashion, turntable runway kind of way, and then it devolves into this punk rock bombastic expression and quick cuts, and I think it’s the best of all worlds.”

The emphasis on artistry doesn’t mean that the competitors won’t be put through the wringer when it comes to the Fright Feat, where the Boulet Brothers subject the artists to face their fears in the most intense ways.

When we talk about chapter two, what we really have done is, I want to say, simmer down the fat to get the purest form of Dragula,” Dracmorda elaborates. “What you’re going to see is you’re going to see amazing, incredible drag on stage in full 360 view. You’re going to see a drag artist doing crazy stuff like eating bugs, jumping out of planes, things like that, and that’s really what the show is about. I think what you may see less of this season is less drama and squabbling about things that don’t have to do with the competition. That’s one of the differences, I would say, this season is we’re focused on what Dragula is. Dragula is about seeing insane drag, and it’s also about seeing drag artists doing crazy stuff, and so that’s what you’re going to see.”

“I want to also add that it’s also a celebration,” Swanthula says. “It’s back to the fun of watching the show. I laugh so much, even though, through the editing process, I’ve seen some of this stuff a million times. I still get off on it. It still makes me laugh and commiserate with these people or their struggles or cheer for them. It’s really fun.”

Dragula season 5 cast

Dragula doesn’t just impress for its artistry, but in its casting, where the competitors are assembled from across the globe.

Swanthula tells Bloody Disgusting, “I think social media has allowed us to almost use it as a scrying mirror. We can look through and see on a worldwide scale what other artists are up to. There’s a competitor in this upcoming season from South America. This is our first time bringing someone from Argentina, originally Columbia, but they’re from Argentina now. I’ve had my eye on him for years. He was actually supposed to be cast in season four, but due to the visa and difficulty with COVID and everything, it just didn’t happen. But we tend to scan from different cities, different countries, and flag people that say, wow, this person has potential, or look at this young artist. What an amazing perspective. They need to be shown to as many people as possible. That’s when we really play our hands in the casting process.”

It’s clear that the Boulet Brothers aren’t slowing down anytime soon, either, with horror offering an endless creative well to pull from.

“I got to say the horror world is so vast from really highbrow serious thrillers, chilling, possession, and all kinds of stuff down to child’s play and ridiculousness and just high comedy in camp,” Swanthula reflects. “I think Drac and I speak all of those languages, and we actually love them too, so finding inspiration from the horror world or all of its adjacent genres is probably the easiest part for us. We are in this never-ending conversation. We’re always riffing and creating and talking. I think if there was a fly on the wall, we’d be annoying to them because it’s always this workshop process. There’s literally lists of potential challenges for even seasons to come.”

“I mean, if you think about even the horror genre, I go from Beetlejuice to Hereditary to Alien to Killer Clown from Outer Space. I mean, just those few movies give you so many challenge ideas. To me, I feel like we barely scratched the surface, and there’s a lot more to come,” Dracmorda adds.

“The Boulet Brothers’ Dracula” Season 5 premieres tonight on Shudder & AMC+ at 12AM ET / 9PM PST.

 

 

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.

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‘In a Violent Nature’ Director Reveals How His Unique Slasher Was Reshot Almost Entirely [Interview]

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Writer/Director Chris Nash’s feature debut, In a Violent Nature, is set to unleash an arthouse twist on the slasher in theaters this Friday, but the journey getting there has been long and arduous. So much so that Nash reshot a large percentage of the film just to get it, and the gory practical effects, just right.

That included a recast of the film’s undead slasher villain, Johnny (Ry Barrett), who is unwittingly summoned when a locket is removed from a collapsed fire tower in the woods that entombs his rotting corpse. That spells terrible news for the campers vacationing in his territory.

Bloody Disgusting spoke with filmmaker Chris Nash and star Ry Barrett ahead of the film’s theatrical release about Johnny’s nature and the tough hurdles in making this unique indie horror film. The inspiration behind In a Violent Nature, Nash reveals, didn’t actually originate from iconic slashers, and that informed his overall approach to the arthouse horror movie.

Nash tells us, “I took a lot of inspiration from Gus Van Sant’s 2000s work of Gerry, Elephant, and Last Days. I love those movies, and I really wanted to see what I could do to bring that into a genre film. The slasher just seemed like the best way to do that; especially, the ‘slasher in the woods’ type of thing. We can really just hang out in that environment. But the main thing for nailing the tone was really, I think, just stepping back and letting the scenes just exist as they were and not even aiming for a tone.

“It was a weird thing talking it over with Pierce Derks, my cinematographer,” Nash continues. “We didn’t have the biggest budget to do something crazy and wild with lighting and stuff, and I was like, ‘Well, let’s just go super naturalistic.’ He said, “Yeah, no look is also a look.” So, this is very much a ‘no tone is a tone’ type of movie. We tried to treat it almost like making a nature documentary where we’re just following something, or following a letter carrier at work, just going from house to house. It’s not the most thrilling work in the world, but it’s honest work. That’s how we approached it, being as objective as we could.”

What is a nature documentary without a subject? In a Violent Nature finds it in the undead Johnny, quietly stalking through the woods for large swaths of the runtime. What was Nash looking for when searching for the right actor to play the killer, you might be wondering?

“I’m still trying to answer that question myself,” Nash responds. “I definitely feel like we found it, and we lucked out with Ry. Ry actually stepped in to replace the actor that we originally had cast as Johnny. This was one of the problems that we faced during our first attempt at shooting, as the actor that we had portraying Johnny had to step away for medical reasons. So we had replacements come in. At the time, we were thinking, ‘This isn’t going to be too much of a problem because he’s in a costume the whole time.’ But when you’re following this mute character, as an audience, you’re picking up on everything. When you don’t have those visual cues, you’re just seeing all the physicality and the tiny, tiny differences between posture, between where people actually hold their weight when they’re walking, and just the size of the gate itself.

Nash continues, “It was pretty shocking and pretty jarring when we had that assembly together of like, ‘Oh yeah, that’s that actor. That’s that actor.’ We could see that it was completely different. So, when we asked Ry to step in, we did a lot of rehearsals with him. We talked about how to walk. He actually did research himself. He was watching animal videos, just nature videos of animals walking to try to just get a feel for how a predator would walk around the woods stalking its prey.”

Barrett added, “They had an initial shoot that I wasn’t a part of, and that was about a full year before they approached me and had decided to reshoot. At that time, I don’t think it was a plan to reshoot everything, but there were key scenes and key moments that they definitely had to 100% go back and redo. The entire film is pivoting on his movements and everything; I think you’d be able to tell if suddenly it was somebody different. So then the decision, on top of a bunch of other factors, was made to reshoot the entire thing. I was really happy to be on board, and the fact that they were going to do that, and to kind of build this character and just be there for all of it.”

As for Barrett’s process of cracking his character, he looked to Nash’s script.

“I think Johnny is supposed to be a bit of a mystery, psychologically and what is going through his head,” Barrett explains. “It was more about, I think, treating him like an animal, like a wild animal sort of, and that’s what the analogy [in the film] sort of encapsulates: what Johnny is and how he works. I looked at it that way because of that. The monologue that Lauren Taylor gives is that he’s like a wild animal, a bear that just has something wrong, and that’s how he operates. It doesn’t necessarily make sense what he’s doing, but it does to him.”

In a Violent Nature trailer

“The suit really lends itself to the character, Barrett elaborates. “I had my rules that I stuck to, but once you get into the suit as Johnny, it kind of just locks everything into place. Getting the suit on wasn’t too extensive of a thing. There was an underlayer, like Under Armor, with skin, latex skin, and everything looking like it’s rotted underneath the pants and underneath the shirt. Then there was either a cowl I wore some days with an open mask that you’d see the back of Johnny’s head, and then other days there was the mask, the full mask, and then some days we had the mask that had a cutout so I could see better and move better. The only the real day that took the most time was the day where you actually see Johnny’s face. That was a longer makeup day because that was a full application and took probably close to three hours.”

It wasn’t just the actor that changed during the reshoots, but Johnny’s design, too. Nash walks us through some of those key changes that ended up improving upon his original vision.

Nash explains, “Watching the assembly cut, we realized that there were small things that we could improve upon that just changed the tone rather dramatically. For instance, how far we followed behind Johnny with the camera, just giving him that perfect amount of space in the frame. Because we were a lot closer the first time around, and the second time around, we were like, ‘We need to pull back a lot further. Another thing that we were looking at was we actually redesigned the weather mask. It was a much more accurate depiction of what the actual firefighting mask was in real life, but we realized that it kind of looked a little too much like a diving bell; it looked a little too goofy. So, we redesigned it, made it a lot more form-fitting to his head, and gave it that goggle look for just kind of more of a piercing eye.”

“There were so many things we took away from the first time around, even just how we were achieving some gore gags, little flourishes we could throw in,” he adds. “So I don’t recommend, and I also very much recommend, reshooting movies in their entirety before you release them.”

Check out In a Violent Nature in theaters this weekend, and stay tuned for a follow-up interview piece here on Bloody Disgusting about the film’s practical effects and gory kills.

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