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‘Night Swim’ – Wyatt Russell and Kerry Condon Wade into Aquatic Nightmare Territory [Interview]

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Everything you fear is under the surface in writer/director Bryce McGuire’s Night Swim. At least, that’s the case for stars Wyatt Russell and Kerry Condon, as a couple who discover that their new swimming pool isn’t all that it appears.

Ahead of the film’s theatrical release on January 5, 2024, Bloody Disgusting spoke with Russell and Condon about wading into aquatic horror territory.

Wyatt Russell (Overlord, “Monarch: Legacy of Monsters”) plays Ray Waller, a former major league baseball player forced into early retirement by a degenerative illness, who moves into a new home with his concerned wife Eve (Oscar® nominee Kerry Condon, The Banshees of Inisherin), teenage daughter Izzy (Amélie Hoeferle, The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes), and young son Elliot (Gavin WarrenFear the Walking Dead).

Secretly hoping, against the odds, to return to pro ball, Ray persuades Eve that the new home’s shimmering backyard swimming pool will be fun for the kids and provide physical therapy for him. But a dark secret in the home’s past will unleash a malevolent force that will drag the family under into the depths of inescapable terror.

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(from left) Ray Waller (Wyatt Russell) and Eve Waller (Kerry Condon) in Night Swim, directed by Bryce McGuire.

Russell brings experience to his role here; the actor was left searching for a new career path over a decade ago when his professional hockey career was cut short by injury. When asked if that life experience made it easy to connect with his character, the answer came easy.

“It made it a little bit easier, for sure,” Russell replied. “It’s an easier way in, and I had experienced the emotion of having something taken away from you before you were ready for it to be taken away. Then the transition phase of going back into regular life was difficult for me, as it was difficult for most athletes. That aspect, I didn’t have a family or kids at the time, so I didn’t really have that to draw on, but you could imagine. I knew a lot of friends that did, who played longer, and it’s just a difficult thing. Yeah, I definitely drew on a lot of my life prior.”

For Ray Waller, the haunted pool holds the allure of former glory. But Condon has the arguably tougher task as Eve, a protective mother that’s been tasked with holding the family together in the wake of her husband’s illness. Eve also, refreshingly, is the first to suspect the family’s new pool might be dangerous.

“I suppose that was a little hard to play; how suspicious do you get, and how early?” Condon reflects on cracking her character’s savvy intuition. “That was a tricky one for me because it’s a fine line. You can’t get too suspicious because then why would you go ahead with certain things? And then, if you’re not getting suspicious soon enough, then she looks dumb. That was a little bit of a tricky one for me, so I tried to offer up options so that maybe, in the edit, they could play around with it because that was a little bit hard to know when she was starting to get super suspicious. Particularly in the scene with the doctor, we had different reactions to that.

I liked the idea that it was a regular woman and a regular mother and let him take all the glory and sacrificed her life for his career and was slightly bitter about the fact that he was so self-engrossed. It just seemed like a real relationship to me, and I really liked that. I really liked the scene with her daughter when she truly revealed what it was like giving birth. I just felt that there was an independence and strength to her that was like an every-woman thing. That’s one of the things I talked about with [Bryce McGuire] that I liked.”

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Kerry Condon as Eve Waller in Night Swim, directed by Bryce McGuire.

A horror movie about a haunted swimming pool means that its characters spend quite a bit of time in the water, with Condon in particular navigating treacherous depths of horror. By the third act, both Russell and Condon are contending with aquatic challenges. Because McGuire wanted to handle these sequences as practically as possible, was it as scary to film these sequences as it looks on screen?

“It was challenging,” Condon says. “But it was a challenge I wanted, which is why I took the movie because I really love swimming. I swam a lot as a kid, and I still swim a lot, so I feel very confident in the water. I was up for the challenge and to learn about filming underwater. Yeah, it was tricky, of course. You had to have a lot of patience because there were a lot of elements to it. Then, trying to act, too. Act holding your breath with your eyes open underwater and then hoping that you can convey that it was a little bit challenging, as opposed to hard.”

Russell adds, “‘Patience’ is a good word because you just had to be patient. There’s only so much that you can do underwater because there’s a time limit. Then there’s the way they have to film it; they have these special rigs and guys down there with them. It’s a whole different crew of people they use for the water. You do have to have a little patience because things don’t happen quite as quickly as sometimes you’d be like, ‘Okay, I want to go back and just do it again,’ it takes a second. That’s probably the most challenging thing, just having patience in the underwater part.”

“Then if you’re diving in and you’re in dry clothes, and you know you’re diving in,” Condon continues. “You only have one take because I can’t get cleaned up and change out and dry my hair, so we have one shot, and then everyone’s getting all stressed. ‘Are you going to do it? Is it going to happen?’ You’re like, ‘I’m not stressing; you handle your department, and I handle mine, and it’ll be fine.’ I didn’t rise to any stress; I always just tried to figure out my own stuff, stay in my own lane, and let everyone else figure out their stuff, and it all came together. It was a great crew; it felt like a team effort, which made it a lot more fun.”

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Wyatt Russell as Ray Waller in Night Swim, directed by Bryce McGuire.

Night Swim isn’t Russell’s first foray into horror, and the actor reveals that he inherited his love of the genre not from his dad (Kurt Russell) but rather his brothers.

“My brothers and I would watch SuspiriaPet SemataryThe ShiningEvil Dead II,” he tells us. “All of those movies of the past were passed on to me because that’s what they were watching; my brother’s like ten years older than I am. The great filmmakers came out of horror; you could name any of them, and they’ve probably made a horror film. I was really into that with them and built an appreciation and a love for it. I do not like slasher films when there isn’t some good conceit behind them. I liked that about this; there was an existential threat that was a swimming pool that was not just gory and people getting slashed. I’m not a big fan of that, so more of a psychological thriller person.”

As for Condon, she prefers to act in horror movies rather than watch them.

Condon explains, “I’m not a horror movie fan. Probably I’m very ignorant because I haven’t seen them. Because I just don’t want to be scared; I live alone. I don’t want to go to the loo in the middle of the night going, ‘Oh, my God, is there somebody in my backyard?’ I don’t need that in my life, so I’m always stressed just thinking about it. I tend to stay away from horror, but there are a lot of movies that are thrillers, which I would like to think this movie is. I think perhaps I’d venture into that, yes.

“Scary, scary, no. Thank you very much.”

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.

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‘Tarot’ – Meet the Evil Entities Designed by Creature Concept Artist Trevor Henderson [Exclusive]

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A deck full of terror awaits in the new Screen Gems horror movie Tarot, which features a variety of new supernatural entities designed by concept artist Trevor Henderson.

Tarot, in theaters now, is written and directed by Spenser Cohen & Anna Halberg, very loosely based on a novel by Nicholas Adams.

The plot sees a group of friends unleashing a curse when they decide to play with a mysterious box of tarot cards. One by one, they come face to face with their fate and end up in a race against death to escape the future foretold in their readings.

Trevor Henderson designed the creature concept art, which was transformed into the cursed tarot deck by artist Richard Wells. The supernatural Tarot entities were then brought to life on screen by special effects and creature effects designer Dan Martin (PossessorInfinity Pool). Bloody Disgusting spoke with Henderson about designing the entities for Tarot, giving insight into each card-inspired creature.

As directors Cohen & Halberg previously told Bloody Disgusting, Henderson was the only artist they considered for Tarot. Henderson walks us through what drew him to the film.

I couched it as doing a fun slumber party horror movie, like a Thirteen Ghosts kind of thing, and having the chance to do a whole bevy of different monsters in one film really excited me a lot,” he explains. “They came to me with an early draft of the script, so I was able to read and see the context with which each of the monsters has their own set piece scene and how that would work out. And just having a very vague idea of what role each monster would play and how they would look, move, and perform. I was left to my own devices, which was incredibly intimidating. But it was a lovely, lovely process getting to develop those characters up from the early script into the final versions.”

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Designing eight separate entities already makes for a daunting task, but Trevor Henderson took extra care to avoid creating familiar representations from the tarot deck.

Henderson explains the process, “definitely tried to take the specific things that popped up over and over again in different renditions of tarot cards and bring those into a slightly newer way that people hadn’t seen it before. Then, from a creature design sense, whenever I’m doing creature design, I try to avoid anything like easy touchstones. In the early designs specifically, I avoided sharp teeth. I know that they walk that back a little bit in the final. When you see a monster in a movie, and it’s got that molded angry brow, I try and avoid that kind of stuff altogether. Anna and Spenser were really great about that, especially with The Hanged Man, which is my favorite out of all the guys that ended up in the film. They were just like, ‘No, no, it’s perfect.’ I just tried to take the things that popped up over and over again and try my best to make it something maybe people hadn’t seen so much, which was difficult when you’re doing the Devil and Death. How many times have we seen Death?”

The artist also shares how he collaborated with the SFX team to further hone the creature designs and what it was like to see it all come together.

“It’s been just a chain of creatives, people I really respect and admire, just working in close proximity with them,” Henderson tells BD. “Even after the fact, seeing the Tarot art that came after I was done. So, first, there were my designs, and then, towards the end of that process, I started working with Dan Martin at 13 Finger FX. We started being on the same Zoom calls just to maximize what would work and what wouldn’t work as I was designing it, so we didn’t have to spend time going back and forth. So, I would be like, ‘Here’s this guy with a weird face.’ Then Dan would be like, ‘This can work, this cannot work, we can do this with this fake hinge jaw I have from a Possessor,’ or something.

“But it’s been really cool seeing the renditions after the fact in Richard Wells’s very distinctive style. I think he did an amazing job giving them really great character in those little paintings in the cards. I know people are asking for a full set of that tarot deck, which I think they’d be nuts not to produce at least a little bit, a few copies of. But yeah, and then just even further down the line, seeing they did a prank trailer with actors wearing the costumes that I scribbled out. It’s just been really weird and satisfying to see it transmute into these different forms.”

Trevor Henderson walked us through each entity’s design, so let’s meet the monsters of Tarot. The below images are being exclusively shared here on Bloody Disgusting.


High Priestess

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“The crown was really the centerpiece of that. [Cohen & Halberg] always wanted to have just an ornate magisterial crown and an almost like royalty thing happening with her. Then everything else shifted in. The weird blindfold she has was a very late addition. We went through a ton of different stuff just to see what stuck in a design sense. There was very little in terms of calling back to the meanings of the cards just from the design. I think a lot of that came through in the script and the writing more than playing back to the actual meanings.

“But for the character designs, I just tried to make something that would look interesting and distinctive and hopefully a little bit iconic on screen. Especially with the ones that had less screen time, you really want to have something that sticks. We just tried a million things, and then that was the one that just like, this is cool with the weird black tears and the blindfold.”


The Hermit

“Well, the idea behind the Hermit is he’s supposed to be a hermit in the context that he is a hermit, like the card, the tarot card. But he’s also a hermit, like a mountain man, someone who’s been sequestered away for a long time. So he has all these rags. And then also he’s a hermit, like a hermit crab, and he’s wearing skin – somebody else’s skin.

“So that was the idea, which I thought was fun. Originally, you didn’t see anything underneath this drooping mask, almost like the one Krampus has in the Krampus film. But they put little hints of a creature underneath in the final, which I enjoyed a lot more. I really liked the scene. His scene and the Magician are my two favorite parts in the movie.”


The Hanged Man

“A lot of the scurrying that he does is after my involvement. Not that I don’t approve of it; I think he’s great. He was the one that actually was the smoothest. I think I did one little page of just really rough sketches and then a couple of days of fine-tuning and rendering a little bit. Then they were like, boom, that’s it, that’s the one.

“That design feels like the most like the things I look for. It feels like maybe the most ‘me’ out of everybody. Just by having what he does in the scene, he had to be more of a CG thing. But I still like how you get that face reveal, which is the important part.”


The Fool

“In the beginning, he was a much more body horror guy. I think he was always going to have a jester outfit. But in the script, initially, he had just a mouth, just a blank face with a big smiley mouth. So we played with that for a while and then decided to go in some slightly different directions.

“The biggest thing with him was that we locked down his look pretty early because he has these different masks that change expressions. But we went over a lot at the end when he’s supposed to do a big reveal at the end, and we were going over all these different things about what could be under the mask. At one point, it was just a howling void, like a black emptiness that sucked there. Getting the general look was easy, and then it was the fine-tuning the details that were more tricky.”


Magician

“Originally, he was more of a skeletal figure. I wanted to really play up this really weird stage magician. That’s actually my favorite scene in the movie. I think it’s so weird and scary. But it also had one of the shortest turnarounds. I think that was just a one or two-day sketch session, and they were like, yeah, this is perfect. Though, I do like that they keep him as this is very underlit, in-the-dark figure. I think it works really well for that one specifically.

“I was just doing different sketches and seeing what stuck. And just this really worn old vaudevillian magician outfit really struck a chord.”


Death

“The brief for him was that he’s supposed to be like the film’s Michael Myers. He’s very slow, methodical, and precise. I really wanted this intimidating figure that had no mouth. He has this sinewy thing going on. Even in the original, I think he has eyes in the final version, but the original was just empty sockets, too. I wanted to just make them very alien.”


The Devil

“Between Death and The Devil, they get a lot of screen time. The way we worked was that we tackled the ones that had the most screen time in the beginning when we had the most time to play around. Then, as we got to the shorter and shorter scenes, there were fewer and fewer days we could spend fooling around and spitballing. So, we started with Death. Then right after that was The Devil because their scenes are intertwined. We really wanted a juxtaposition between Death and the Devil where Death is a slow, tall, stooping thing that’s stalking you, like an It Follows monster.

“The Devil is supposed to be this more animalistic, stopping and starting, like flying on a wall, crawling, bestial thing. So, it was important to get that juxtaposition happening. We spent the most time maybe on that one out of all of them. I think it was just a week straight, doing different horns and trying different versions of the horns over and over again. But I think we ended up in a really good place with that one.”


Trevor Henderson did design an eight entity for the film, a mastermind behind the cursed deck. You’ll have to watch Tarot to see it in action. The film is now playing in theaters nationwide.

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