Interviews
‘Oddity’ Writer/Director Discusses Scare-Crafting and That Creepy Mannequin [Interview]
An eerie, threadbare stuffed bunny induced scares for the way it signaled the presence of ghosts in writer/director Damian McCarthy’s feature debut, 2021’s Caveat. The filmmaker ramps up the tension and scares in his follow-up, Oddity, another chill-inducing tale of supernatural revenge with one creepy mannequin at the center.
Oddity, releasing on July 19, stars Carolyn Bracken (You Are Not My Mother) as twin sisters Dani and Darcy. When Dani is brutally murdered at the remote country house that she’s renovating with her husband Ted (Gwilym Lee), the suspect dies soon after. But Darcy, a blind medium and oddity shop owner, arrives at Ted’s home a year later under the conviction that there’s more to Dani’s death than meets the eye; and she’s brought a creepy wooden mannequin with her to find the truth.
While the mannequin is the centerpiece in McCarthy’s unsettling sophomore effort, look for the Caveat bunny on the shelves of Darcy’s shop. It’s not the only loose connection either; Caveat star Jonathan French also appears in Oddity in a different role. Considering the shared themes of supernatural karma and justice, it’s easy to infer a shared universe unfolding. In Oddity‘s case, though, it’s a wry wink from its filmmaker.
In a recent chat with McCarthy, the filmmaker explained why the drumming bunny from Caveat received an upgrade for its brief cameo in Oddity, and why it’s ultimately a tongue-in-cheek in joke.

Leila Sykes and the drumming bunny in ‘Caveat’
McCarthy told Bloody Disgusting, “It is the same designer. It’s Lisa Zagone, who designed the Caveat bunny. I just wanted her to design something, so she designed it. It’s impossible to replicate what she did with that bunny. I mean, the bunny’s gone. I unfortunately don’t have it anymore, but she built what I was saying, ‘Okay, let’s make a hare that has symbols this time and something bigger and meaner.’ That was her brief. She’s got this fantastic way of designing things. So, it’s just a little nod to [Caveat]. More from my own amusement than anything, but yeah, nicely spotted.”
Oddity belongs to Darcy and her terrifying Wooden Man, one whose face is locked in a permanent scream with finger-sized holes in the back of its skull. McCarthy’s explanation behind the mannequin’s design highlights how much he was thinking about crafting effective scares in advance.
“The initial idea was that I always wanted him screaming, because he’ll just look unsettling sitting there with a silent scream,” McCarthy said. “But then just to leave it open for sound design at the end, because when he finally starts doing things, it’s like, great, so if he looks like he’s screaming, it just means that anything then can be put in once we get to the sound design. And as you say, sound design is probably 70%, if not more, of a horror film. We didn’t have much time to design him at all. It was luckily through Paul McDonnell. I had just sent him a few drawings, a few real basic examples of what I wanted. Because we were so tight on time and very lucky to get Paul, it was just sitting down on Zoom with him, just watching him mold it.
“He goes, ‘You’re going to have to be very decisive because whatever we’re doing today is what it’s going to be molded.’ Because it had to go to mold, our stunt man’s body was going to be molded to play the non-prop parts. There were a lot of like, ‘Okay, remove the nose. Okay, bring the nose back.’ Poor Paul, but it worked really well. But he did say, ‘Next time we’re working together, just give me a bit more time.’ It was a bit of a mad dash, but it worked. Maybe that’s why it worked so well because we didn’t have time to overthink it.”
More than just scares, McCarthy wanted to use the Wooden Man to toy with audience anticipation and act as a pressure release where needed, too.

Caroline Menton and Carolyn Bracken in Damian McCarthy’s ODDITY. Courtesy of Colm Hogan. An IFC Films and Shudder Release
“The idea was it was never going to be a big, big tease of even what he looked like. There’s a little bit when Yana [played by Caroline Menton] and Darcy are moving around a little bit, you’re getting a glimpse of him at the table, but finally, he’s just there. He’s just out front and center. That was always the idea that he’s just there, and it might even become comedic because he’s just sitting there and you’d almost wonder whether he is going to lose any kind of a threat because we’re so used to looking at him, by the time he finally does something. There were little things that we shot; that classic trope of his head moving left and right, and he’s looking at different things. We teased it a little bit, but no, in the end, once we really started locking the edit, it was actually funnier and just a little creepier if he just does nothing. He’s just sitting there, and the audience is going, ‘Is anything going to happen?'”
Oddity does have a playful attitude, but it’s not a horror-comedy. While there are occasional laughs to break up the tension, McCarthy’s latest brings the scares. For the filmmaker, it’s as much about making sure his audience is entertained as they are terrified.
On finding that line between horror and comedy, McCarthy shares, “I never try to intentionally be funny, heaven forbid, but it’s just, I think if you try to make a film that’s so serious, if it took itself so seriously, then it just becomes an unintentional comedy because it’s like we have to take this so seriously that there’s that thing of trying not to laugh then. If you allow the audience to laugh and just have the characters a little bit dry, some of the stuff that’s coming out of their mouth is quite droll, and some of their comments are cutting to each other; I think it helps. It’s just a bit more entertaining, as opposed to having all the dialogue be super serious.”
He continues, “I tried to do the same with Caveat. I put stuff in Caveat that I find quite funny, but because Jonathan’s on his own for so much of it. At one stage, that corpse has a bag on her head, and it moves around, and there’s a hole, and it’s great because anybody who laughs at that knows that that’s clearly not supposed to be serious. It’s like the old Sam Raimi rule that your number one goal in making a film should be to entertain. Just try to make it as funny as it can be, and it should just help the horror because it’s such a fine line between horror and comedy anyway.“

Courtesy of Colm Hogan. An IFC Films and Shudder Release
Interviews
Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’
Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating.
“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”
While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists.
“I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.“
Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”
The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling.
Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story.
“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”
The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential.
“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.“
Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay.
“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness.
“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”
So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation.
“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”
Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere.

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