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‘Y2K’ Director Kyle Mooney Talks Practical Effects and Keeping Audiences on Their Toes [Interviews]

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Kyle Mooney as Garrett in Y2K
Kyle Mooney as Garrett in 'Y2K.' Photo Credit: Nicole Rivelli

New Year’s Eve felt a bit different in 1999. Not simply because it was a different time but because of the pesky “year 2000 problem” that’s more commonly referred to as Y2K. The world anticipated global computer system failures that would cause the shutdown of technology everywhere, including power. It created a widespread panic that entailed people prepping for an actual apocalypse. Except, once the clock struck midnight, nothing happened. The computers adjusted just fine, everyone breathed a sigh of relief, and the world moved on in a blink.

Y2K director/co-writer Kyle Mooney and co-writer Evan Winter imagine what could’ve happened had the Y2K bug actually triggered catastrophe, marrying an apocalyptic horror movie with a raucously entertaining teen comedy.

Mooney, a millennial making his directorial feature debut with Y2K, remembers that specific point in time well. He recalls, “I mean, it was just such a disappointment. I don’t want to say massive disappointment because, in some way, the next day, I probably didn’t even think about it at all. You know what I mean? But it was something that I held on to for the rest of my life, just that it was so odd that we were told something wild was going to happen, and truly nothing did.”

“I don’t know if I ever, when talking about it or thinking about it, give credit that there probably was work being done by people to make sure that whatever the cash registers at the supermarket were up-to-date or whatever computers needed to be,” Mooney continues. “But yeah, I think it’s an idea that just thinking about Y2K was always there and how bizarre it was. Then, on New Year’s Day 2019, I had the soft idea of what would happen if teenagers went to a party in ’99 and Y2K actually happened. I pitched it to my friend, Evan.” 

Rachel Zegler on 1999 Apple PC

Rachel Zegler
Photo Credit: Nicole Rivelli

The filmmaker kicks his disaster comedy off with a potent dose of dial-up nostalgia and coming-of-age comedy that captures the minutiae of the era well. So much so that it’s easy to forget this is a genre film. Once the New Year’s Eve party arrives and the clock strikes midnight, Mooney pulls the rug out from under viewers as he plunges his precocious teen protagonists into an unexpected bloodbath.

That, of course, was by design. Mooney explains, “For me, that’s the stuff that gets me off and is intriguing to me: taking these big left turns and subverting expectation. We knew we wanted it to feel as much like a teen coming-of-age film of the era, which I love. There are so many awesome ones from that time period, à la Can’t Hardly Wait, She’s All That, and 10 Things I Hate About You. But then, even moving forward to Superbad. Truly the dream is that you’re an audience member that knows nothing about this movie, and each moment is like, oh, shit. That you get that reaction. So, hopefully, midnight does that.”

Rachel Zegler and blood covered Jaeden Martell in Y2k

(L-R) Rachel Zegler, Jaeden Martell
Photo Credit: Nicole Rivelli

Also unexpected is just how willing Mooney is to slaughter his charming characters, removing a sense of safety. That also was a calculated move to keep audiences on their toes. “In terms of killing your darlings and these characters, again, that’s something that to me feels like such a left turn that you’re like, oh, well, now it’s going to maybe be a completely different movie than what I had in my head. The tough thing that happens with that, which is maybe obvious, is that some of these characters are already beloved by the audience at this point in the film, so you are taking a risk, but hopefully, they’re a catalyst for the way our other characters move around this universe,” Mooney explains. “But yeah, I love the idea of really taking some swings.”

“I honestly did not grow up watching a ton of horror, and I think that’s because I was probably a little bit of a scaredy-cat,” Mooney, who also plays the role of Garrett in the film, confesses. “I probably invested more of my time in the hard comedies of the era, your Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey movies and Eddie Murphy and whatnot. So horror was something I feel like probably in the last decade I’ve started to invest myself more into.”

The director lists cinematic influences on Y2K that only confirm he’s been studying horror. He tells Bloody Disgusting, “We talked a lot about The Faculty. That was definitely a big one. We had references like Shaun of the Dead or Attack the Block. But tonally, we just wanted everything to feel as grounded as possible, and especially in that first act, really lean into the coming of agenesis of it all so that when that turn comes, if you don’t know anything about the movie, that it’s surprising.”

Y2k Murder Bot

Y2K boasts great practical effects and creature work from Wētā Workshop, who infuse the rampaging tech with personality that only makes their carnage all the more curious and entertaining. Mooney’s choice to go as practical as possible with the film’s effects was largely informed by the time period. “It was something that Evan and I talked about from moment one, essentially. We really wanted the movie to feel, as much as possible, like a movie that could have come out in this era. Practical effects felt like they made the most sense. I feel like anyone could probably speak on this better than I could, but it just gives it that quality of seeing something happening on screen, and these actors are actually responding to it. It feels, to us and hopefully to the audience, special in some way or another.”

Mooney continues, “Wētā did most of the practical components. I’ll also shout out Jason Singleton, our production designer, who took on a few of them as well. There are some robots in there. Spoilery to some degree, maybe not that much, but there’s a robot called Grelbo, who shoots out CDs. Jason and his team put that together. But yeah, Wētā made our main monster robot. We call him Screen Slayer in the script, but nobody ever says that out loud. As well as Cool Blue, which is Eli’s computer turned into a robot.

“In terms of developing it with Wētā, we definitely gave some references and talked about how we wanted it to appear as this mishmash of technology of the era and even a little bit before the era because you might have that vacuum cleaner that’s been hanging out in your closet for the last seven years or whatever. But Wētā was so great when we pitched them the ideas of what we wanted this stuff to look like; everything they came back with was pretty much almost there from round one.”

Y2K crashes into theaters on December 6, 2024.

Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon, SeriesFest, and Popcorn Frights Film Fest.

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Paul Tremblay on Fighting AI with Horror in New Novel ‘Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep’

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Paul Tremblay didn’t start his writing career believing he’d be battling machines over the sanctity of his job, but like so many writers of his generation, the battle found him. In the years since Large Language Models (LLMs) and neural networks started gaining traction as an advertised shortcut to creativity, Tremblay has been active in lawsuits to prevent the use of his works in training AI models, and he’s found that, with each new project, he has to consider the possibility that some LLM, somewhere, is going to latch on to what he’s creating. 

“Now I feel like I’m thinking about, ‘Man, how am I going to write things that would be really hard or impossible for an AI to replicate?’,” Tremblay told me, speaking by Zoom from his home in Massachusetts. “Maybe some of that is ego. I’m sure every writer thinks, ‘Oh, an AI could never write what I write.’ Yes, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t part of the thought process.”

While that’s something Tremblay might consider with any new work at this point in his career, the Bram Stoker Award-winning author of A Head Full of Ghosts, The Cabin at the End of the World, and many other novels and short stories tackled it in a more direct way with his latest book. Inspired by Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, and the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is Tremblay’s attempt at a sci-fi-horror mash-up that’s both darkly funny and existentially nightmarish. It’s also, in his own words, a screed against the movement by AI companies to supplant human artists. 

I didn’t want to make it too didactic, but no, I playfully described this book as an anti-AI screed,” he said. “This book, in particular, was driven by anger and frustration, for sure. Not every book is going to be driven that way.

Despite the emotions that fueled it, Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep does not read like a screed. Instead, wielding offbeat humor and tech concepts that feel both lived-in and frighteningly tactile, the book lays out tandem narratives all building to the same conclusion, each of them exploring our relationship to machine learning in a different way. One of these narratives belongs to Julia, a former gaming streamer looking for a new challenge in life, who gets a call from a California tech company with an interesting offer.

Paul Tremblay in documentary series “First Word on Horror”

The company has, it seems, implanted some new technology in a brain-dead middle-aged man which will, in theory, allow them to pilot the man’s body through a rudimentary, still-developing system of controls. Julia, with her gaming background, would be the pilot, in her own way just as much a test subject as the human vegetable she’s controlling. 

Julia is a Gen Z streamer with an omnivorous pop culture appetite, inspired by Tremblay’s own adult children, who riffs on The Big Lebowski constantly and calls her strange new meat puppet “Bernie” in reference to Weekend at Bernie’s. Her wide frame of reference, and her interest in art and stories far beyond video games, is in part informed by Tremblay’s own experiences with Gen Z, and in part a response to AI companies who scrape art and culture as a means of consuming it for reference without really experiencing a story. 

“I know that one of the arguments that OpenAI and other tech companies are trying to make is like, ‘Hey, you writers, you artists, you take pop culture, you take your influences, and you create something. That’s just the same thing that the bots are doing.’ And it’s just not,” Tremblay said. “I wanted to have Julia have her outlook informed by all this pop culture, and I wanted to make that feel really human as a way to show how inhuman the AI is.”

The other side of the story belongs to “Bernie,” who’s addressed in his point-of-view chapters as “You.” In these chapters, the technology in Bernie’s body starts to flicker images through his seemingly dead brain, delivering half-remembered imagery and perspective in a nod to the “hallucinations” of an AI model groping for understanding it can never reach. These chapters in particular show off Tremblay’s flair for formalist shake-ups, and echo the kind of hyperstimulated writing that Dick and Ellison made so influential. 

“I think it was more just the general Philip K. Dick feeling of ‘The world is so strange,'” Tremblay said. “He’s a lot funnier, I think, than maybe a lot of people credit him. That’s definitely what I was thinking of when writing the book.

Bernie’s chapters embody the strangeness of Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep, presenting imagery that’s at times puzzling, at times eerily filmic, and always unnerving. They also mirror Julia’s own journey in fascinating ways as the odd couple – the Gen Z gamer and the middle-aged vegetable – traverse the United States, and the tech in Bernie’s body wakes up to the possibilities of using his flesh for its own purposes. It’s a compelling narrative technique, but it presented some new writing challenges for Tremblay. 

“I quickly realized I couldn’t write this book the same way I have in the past,” he said. “By that, I mean all my other novels I had written in the order in which it was presented, even things that are nonlinear, which is most of them. I knew I couldn’t do that in this book. It’s not a spoiler, but hopefully the readers figure out pretty early that the Bernie chapters are a little bit of a preview of the next chapter from Julia, what’s actually happening with Julia. It’s all refracted from him.”

Mary Roach’s Stiff

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep began with a simple image, inspired by Tremblay’s reading of Mary Roach‘s book chronicling the history of our treatment of corpses, Stiff. As he read, Tremblay imagined a body sitting on an airplane, remote-controlled by someone else. At the time, it was a “silly what-if” concept, filed away in his head. Years later, when he became an author suing a tech company to keep AI from scraping his work for ideas, it started to feel frighteningly plausible, taking the “silly what-if” into the territory of a high-concept horror show about what happens when we try to exploit and commodify uniquely human aspects of consciousness. 

“It stuck with me,” Tremblay said of that what-if imagery. “And then a few years later, when I was a part of the case suing OpenAI on behalf of writers, that what-if suddenly didn’t seem as silly. The more I learned about how that corporation operates and without really any sort of ethical thought to anything, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m going to play with that. That’s actually happening.”

So, what if someone actually in favor of generative AI picks up Tremblay’s self-described “anti-AI screed?” He hopes that, at the very least, he’s made the ride enjoyable in a distinctly human way that might begin to reshape the conversation. 

“I think that was another reason why I wanted to have the humor,” Tremblay said. “If people are reading this book who aren’t on the side of like, ‘Hey, LLMs taking authors’ books is bad,’ maybe if they read something that’s cut with some humor, that maybe they’ll be more easily swayed.”

Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep is now in bookstores everywhere. 

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